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SmashMouth 04-24-2025 08:21 PM

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Saints learned from past year's decimating injuries at OL. Move Penning inside at RG. More time for the Bayou Rattler to do his thing.

jnormand 04-24-2025 08:21 PM

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The Saints need help in the trenches. I like the pick and I hope we keep em coming. So glad we didn’t reach for a QB. Let’s go!

spkb25 04-24-2025 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1009131)
It'll be Tyler Shough. I'm mentally prepared for it.

If there should prefer dart or sanders

frydaddy 04-24-2025 08:25 PM

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I wanted Jalon Walker or a trade back. I would've been OK with Sanders. I don't really like this pick. I know the O line needs work, but I don't think Banks was worth #9. Had Will Campbell fallen, yeah absolutely take him. This just feels...hollow.

Oh well, I'm on to tomorrow and waiting to see how they f*** those picks up

stickman 04-24-2025 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1009131)
It'll be Tyler Shough. I'm mentally prepared for it.

I think they make a move for Dart.

SmashMouth 04-24-2025 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 1009135)
I wanted Jalon Walker or a trade back. I would've been OK with Sanders. I don't really like this pick. I know the O line needs work, but I don't think Banks was worth #9. Had Will Campbell fallen, yeah absolutely take him. This just feels...hollow.

Oh well, I'm on to tomorrow and waiting to see how they f*** those picks up

Me too, but Saints have too many holes to fill. We still got the best OT in the draft

turbo_dog 04-24-2025 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1009131)
It'll be Tyler Shough. I'm mentally prepared for it.

I understand your mentality here, but new offensive head coach. Let's hope he's smarter than that!

BakoSaint 04-24-2025 08:36 PM

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The most important thing for the rest of this round is that the Saints don't trade back into the first round at the cost of their 2026 1st round pick. We could end up giving up Arch Manning and more for Shedeur Sanders, Jaxson Dart, Jalen Milroe, or Tyler Shough.

turbo_dog 04-24-2025 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 1009135)
I wanted Jalon Walker or a trade back. I would've been OK with Sanders. I don't really like this pick. I know the O line needs work, but I don't think Banks was worth #9. Had Will Campbell fallen, yeah absolutely take him. This just feels...hollow.

Oh well, I'm on to tomorrow and waiting to see how they f*** those picks up

I disagree. Banks was considered the top OL until the last few weeks. Sometimes analysis paralysis takes over and people just need **** to write about. He's a stud, and paired with Fuaga, we have two anchors. Only issue is we need help in the interior as well. Might be easier to find a guard in free agency than a tackle

hitta 04-24-2025 08:38 PM

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Now I'd do everything we can to get Dart.

stickman 04-24-2025 08:39 PM

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Okay, time to hope the Falcons mess this up.

BakoSaint 04-24-2025 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 1009142)
Now I'd do everything we can to get Dart.

No no no! It would likely cost our 2026 1st round pick. Costing the Saints the opportunity to draft Arch Manning in return for a reach pick who isn't ready to play would be the most Loomis thing ever. If Loomis blow the Saints opportunity to draft Arch for a reach, we need to build a statue outside the dome depicting Loomis as a junkie male prostitute flashing his goodies to attract johns.

turbo_dog 04-24-2025 08:42 PM

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Hope the failclowns take shemar stewart

stickman 04-24-2025 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1009144)
No no no! It would likely cost our 2026 1st round pick. Costing the Saints the opportunity to draft Arch Manning in return for a reach pick who isn't ready to play would be the most Loomis thing ever. If Loomis blow the Saints opportunity to draft Arch for a reach, we need to build a statue outside the dome depicting Loomis as a junkie male prostitute flashing his goodies to attract johns.

I don't think the Saints will have the #1 overall pick next year, so they would have to trade up to get Arch. You can't count on it. Someone might want him more and then you are settling next year.

BakoSaint 04-24-2025 08:44 PM

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Maybe the Falcons will take Tyler Warren. They need help at TE and having a 1st round grade at TE he is a sure thing.

turbo_dog 04-24-2025 08:45 PM

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Don't care about Arch Manning. He shouldn't come out until 2027 anyway. How do we get Carr and his cap hit out of town is more pressing, no matter who plays QB for us this year

Rsanders24 04-24-2025 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 1009135)
I wanted Jalon Walker or a trade back. I would've been OK with Sanders. I don't really like this pick. I know the O line needs work, but I don't think Banks was worth #9. Had Will Campbell fallen, yeah absolutely take him. This just feels...hollow.

Oh well, I'm on to tomorrow and waiting to see how they f*** those picks up

Same. We are so slow upfront on defense. I didn’t think he was going to be there at 9. I’m tired of QBs having all day to decide what they want to do with the ball.

turbo_dog 04-24-2025 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1009147)
Maybe the Falcons will take Tyler Warren. They need help at TE and having a 1st round grade at TE he is a sure thing.

Kyle Pitts turned out to be a great decision in the first round

BakoSaint 04-24-2025 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stickman (Post 1009146)
I don't think the Saints will have the #1 overall pick next year, so they would have to trade up to get Arch. You can't count on it. Someone might want him more and then you are settling next year.

I think the Saints definitely may have the top pick. Drafting Dart or Sanders won't help, especially Dart, who is not ready as a rookie to be a standout. Carr was mediocre but without Carr we are in Titans QB territory. Then you have an injury prone offense and an aging defense.

If we could get Sanders or Dart at 40 I could be ok with it.

I would also be ok with trading out of the 2nd round and picking up more 3rd and 4th rounders or 2026 picks.

lee909 04-24-2025 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 1009141)
I disagree. Banks was considered the top OL until the last few weeks. Sometimes analysis paralysis takes over and people just need **** to write about. He's a stud, and paired with Fuaga, we have two anchors. Only issue is we need help in the interior as well. Might be easier to find a guard in free agency than a tackle

This
If you look at the mocks during the season Banks was the top OT

In 2024, he was named First Team All-SEC and won the Jacobs Blocking Trophy and the Lombardi Award, as the best lineman in college football that year. Banks was also awarded the Outland Trophy, which is awarded to the best interior lineman in college football.


No issue with this pick at all, especially if it means i don't need to see Trevor Penning again. I'll be just as happy if they take a LG in the 2/3rd round

stickman 04-24-2025 08:48 PM

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Damn. Good pick by the Falcons.

BakoSaint 04-24-2025 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 1009150)
Kyle Pitts turned out to be a great decision in the first round

I hope you are being sarcastic.

turbo_dog 04-24-2025 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1009154)
I hope you are being sarcastic.

yeah buddy

rezburna 04-24-2025 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 1009148)
Don't care about Arch Manning. He shouldn't come out until 2027 anyway. How do we get Carr and his cap hit out of town is more pressing, no matter who plays QB for us this year

People keep throwing the name Arch Manning around and he hasn't even played a full college season. What has anybody seen to say he should be the #1 guy?

turbo_dog 04-24-2025 08:51 PM

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****ing hell! Hate that atlanta got Walker

The Dude 04-24-2025 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1009156)
People keep throwing the name Arch Manning around and he hasn't even played a full college season. What has anybody seen to say he should be the #1 guy?

He white.

BakoSaint 04-24-2025 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1009156)
People keep throwing the name Arch Manning around and he hasn't even played a full college season. What has anybody seen to say he should be the #1 guy?

I use Arch Mannings name symbolically. Maybe another QB emerges as the clear top option in 2026. It looks to be a very good QB draft. Maybe Nussmeier or another QB looks great. I just don't want to pass up on having our pick from a great QB class next year for a reach this year that many other teams passed up for a reason.

turbo_dog 04-24-2025 08:52 PM

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I think we all know it's just the family legacy and they think he's a savior for the Saints. Honestly, if he went to New Orleans, it would probably be the worst thing for him and the franchise. Expectations would be too high!

frydaddy 04-24-2025 08:53 PM

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Hope you guys are right about Banks, especially with the clowns getting Walker...

rezburna 04-24-2025 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 1009157)
****ing hell! Hate that atlanta got Walker

Guess it's a good thing we got another OT.

The Dude 04-24-2025 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 1009134)
If there should prefer dart or sanders

Who would just wind up hurt or rattled for the rest of their career. OT is a safe and smart move. We are in rebuild mode now. Solidify our line before we invest heavily in Qb. If Rattler or hand me a Hanky make it great, if not that’s ok too.

BakoSaint 04-24-2025 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 1009160)
I think we all know it's just the family legacy and they think he's a savior for the Saints. Honestly, if he went to New Orleans, it would probably be the worst thing for him and the franchise. Expectations would be too high!

Arch Manning has not proven much in college yet but he broke two Super Bowl winning QBs records at his high school, was the #1 overall recruit in the country in 2023, stands 6ft 4in call with prototypically QB size, has looked good in his college tape, comes from a family that has produced 3 great QBs, is more mobile than Peyton and Eli, and is still only 19 years old, the same age 6'1 Shedeur Sanders whose family has produced one star at a totally different position was his freshman year at Jackson State. Its not that Arch Manning is white. Its that everything is great about him except that sorry he didn't start at Texas at 19 and didn't look better than the 21 year old starter 3 year starter yet when he got on the field. Ewers was the #1 overall recruit in the 2021 recruiting class. Sorry that Manning is only a #1 overall recruit who at 19 could only play comperably not better than a #1 overall recruit from 2021 in his third year in the system. Its like if Tom Brady was so great, why didn't he bypass Drew Henson.

turbo_dog 04-24-2025 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1009164)
Arch Manning has not proven much in college yet but he broke two Super Bowl winning QBs records at his high school, was the #1 overall recruit in the country in 2023, stands 6ft 4in call with prototypically QB size, has looked good in his college tape, comes from a family that has produced 3 great QBs, is more mobile than Peyton and Eli, and is still only 19 years old, the same age 6'1 Shedeur Sanders whose family has produced one star at a totally different position was his freshman year at Jackson State. Its not that Arch Manning is white. Its that everything is great about him except that sorry he didn't start at Texas at 19 and didn't look better than the 21 year old starter 3 year starter yet, who was the #1 overall recruit in the 2021 recruiting class.

All those things are great, but a player has to prove it at every level. Let's let him get a full season of college before we anoint him.

turbo_dog 04-24-2025 09:06 PM

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Time for the ****aneers to pick a ****ty guy.

BakoSaint 04-24-2025 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 1009165)
All those things are great, but a player has to prove it at every level. Let's let him get a full season of college before we anoint him.

Yes but lets not toss our lottery ticket in the trash for Jaxson Dart or Shedeur Sanders who did not accomplish what Manning did at previous levels and have not accomplished what Manning still could at the college level. I am fine if we take Dart or Sanders, but not by trading a future 1st round pick.

turbo_dog 04-24-2025 09:08 PM

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I agree, don't give up too much to get any of these quarterbacks.

xan 04-24-2025 09:09 PM

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We already have a shaudeur sanders in rattler. Let's get an edge in round 2, then roll dice on whoever is left

stickman 04-24-2025 09:09 PM

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I don't think you have to trade back into the first to get one of these guys. Just early in the second, which will cost a lot less.

rezburna 04-24-2025 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1009167)
Yes but lets not toss our lottery ticket in the trash for Jaxson Dart or Shedeur Sanders who did not accomplish what Manning did at previous levels and have not accomplished what Manning still could at the college level. I am fine if we take Dart or Sanders, but not by trading a future 1st round pick.

I guess 4,000+ yards, 37 TDs, and a 74% completion percentage is less of a sure thing than the kid we haven't seen because he played well in high school. Either that or he's just the nepo baby from the wrong family.

turbo_dog 04-24-2025 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1009171)
I guess 4,000+ yards, 37 TDs, and a 74% completion percentage is less of a sure thing than the kid we haven't seen because he played well in high school. Either that or he's just the nepo baby from the wrong family.

Didn't they win the championship for Div 2 as well at Jackson State?


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