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I don’t get this pick. I like going QB but there’s nothing about Shough that makes me think he’s going to be good in the NFL. However, I have to think Moore knows QBs so maybe he sees something in him I don’t.

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He threw 6 or less INTs every year because he played 7 or less games his first 6 years of college. To the extent that 2023 was Aaron Rodgers best season, Tyler Shough is great.

In his D1 college career Shough threw 59 TDs and 23 INTs over 7 seasons. Sanders threw 64 TDs and 13 INTs over 2 seasons, more TDs and less INTs. Both had about 900 attempts. The only reason Should was able to limit himself to 6 INTs per season is because he divided those 900 attempts over 7 seasons. Shough has a career INT% of 2.4%, Sanders has 1.4%. There are arguments for Shough over Sanders in tends of size and speed, but interception stats clearly are better for Sanders. Sanders career INT% is better than Shough's best season in the last 5 years.

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Sanders must have really been a jerk off in his interviews. This is not from his play on the field.

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Shough seems like's got a fairly quick release and might be the most accurate QB on our roster right now, Carr included. Worried about the injury history though and how we will manage the pocket against NFL pass rushes.

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Yep.

Projected 3-4th round with an extensive injury history.

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I said online a while back, people don't want to deal with his Dad. As soon as he's not starting, or he's under pressure Deion will be in the press blaming everyone, or he will be actively undermining coaches and putting it out there he wants the job

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I'm hoping for the best with Shucks

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The injuries are a concern but are being vastly overblown


A broken collarbone that the decision was not to operate, it got reinforced week 1 the next season . He got surgery and it's been fine since, then he broke his leg.

I would be far more concerned if it was a long list of muscle,tendon,ligament issues.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2025/4/...nfl-draft-2025

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Well not only was there smoke, a few draft pundits saw this happening. Hopefully he surprises us all. If our offensive minded HC green lit the pick, let’s get ready to roll.

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He doesn't have to be good. He has to get injured so Mickey Loomis can blame lost seasons on injury.

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Exactly. All the injuries are bone breaks. I've broken bones in the past, that doesn't make me injury prone. Haven't broken one in over a decade.

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I don’t know why this is a suprise. Even team is passing on him. Reguardless if he can play, he and his dad are proving to be cancers.

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https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tyler-...2-c8ee34c8b6a6That depends on sources.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tyler-...2-c8ee34c8b6a6
I've seen projections for the 1st round as well as mid rounds.

edit: I'm still trusting the new regime. I'm already excited for next season.

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Do you play professional football? I think 3 broken bones is better than 3 torn ACL's but its still a concern. A lot of young players careers have been derailed by broken bones. Kevin White comes to mind. Lions #2 overall pick Charles Rogers is another.

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Does it matter? Broken bones can and do happen to anyone is my point. Having one doesn't make you more likely to have another, unlike soft tissue injuries.

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I don't like the QB pick because there were a few EDGE rushers and Defensive Tackles right behind our QB pick. We need to rebuild offensive and defensive lines. Cam Jordan and others are NOT going to play much longer.

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Yeah it really does. I just finished a day of working Microsoft Excel and a keyboard. I have never broken a bone in my life. Anyone can break a bone but if you play football its more common, and then some people are also just more prone to it, maybe they are worse at avoiding hits, maybe their calcium is a little worse, whatever it is an injury history is a concern.

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The argument against that will be in the next few years you have to replace Carr. Even average bridge QBs are getting paid 20-30ml a year. Better to spend a 40th pick and have a rookie QB the head coach thinks he can work with under a rookie deal and then find DE/CBs

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You can be coached on taking hits better, you can take calcium supplements to improve your levels. I just don't see it as being as big of a deal as you do. The greatest player to ever wear a Saints jersey..hell, one of the greatest to wear any jersey..came to us a year after suffering a near catastrophic injury and went on to a hall of fame career. Would I prefer he had no injury history? Sure. But he's still the most pro ready QB in this class. I'm not even out here trying to say he's going to be any good, but to knock him for his past injuries is silly.

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Saints need a CB

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Carr will NEVER play another down for New Orleans.
He moved to California after his injury last season, and he has never returned since then.

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Couple of good edge guys and a handful of really good CB's still on the board.

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But he's still going to be paid themselves of millions over the next few years, playing or not.

So they needed a QB, Moore has likely picked his man. A QB on a rookie deal is still your best friend when roster building as its cheaper to get a CB/DE in free agency(not by as much as it used to be granted)

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Every year it’s the same thing…reach for an experimental player or a player with an injury history. We could have gotten him with our 2nd pick in the 3rd or probably our 4th rd pick.

Tyler was in school for 7 years and injured every year he played. His game play does not give me hope that he will be anymore than an average QB.

We could have taken a chance on Will Johnson or an edge rusher instead of Tyler. We are going to a 3-4 and have no edge rushers.

Our front office needs a cleansing. This year is going to be one for the books for sure.

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Yeah saying we have a few years to replace Carr is like saying Bruce Willis can only do a few more Die Hard movies.

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You're complaining they took Shough with his injuries but you wanted Will Johnson who has refused to run a 40 because they feared he wouldn't out up good times. And is also dealing with a extensive lower body issues including a knee problem that may well be degenerative/arthritic

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Its cool that Shough has a size and arm talent, but to ignore his injury history and call him the most pro ready is silly. Shadeur Sanders has a similar number of attempts, more TDs, and less INTs at the D1 level. The same number of reps with more TDs and less INTs tells me Sanders is more pro ready. Shough is just big and old.

I am not sure a 26 year old rookie has ever had a successful NFL career? Is there precedent? Warren Moon was older but he played 4 years in the CFL first and won the grey cup every year. There have been a few great 6'1-ish QBs who didnt run. I can't find any successful QB who came out of college at 26. So not only does Shough have to turn from glass to steel, he then has to not be steel Chris Weinke or steel Brandon Weeden.

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This theory only works if the QB on the rookie deal is good. If we were going to take a chance I would have preferred that we traded down or took a chance on a player with a higher ceiling.

We do not have good record of drafting QBs…even to just be a decent backup…i.e Book, Haener, Rattler (maybe)

Man….this is depressing

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It's Kellen Moore's pick at the end of the day. What Slough's story? Super quick release ? Seattle won a SB with an older QB.

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Will Johnson didn’t need to run. He was still the consensus 2nd rated CB but everyone knew he would slide due to injury. His tape showed that he was a very good CB.

Tyler was never a top QB in a poor draft for QBs. I would have rather taken a chance on a CB who I saw excel at his position against top WRs than a questionable QB with a much lower ceiling.

Tyler benefited from drama with Sanders and I hope that I’m wrong on him and that he becomes the next Tom Brady

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I am skeptical that Moore is actually driving this. Before the hire Mickey Loomis stressed that the most important thing for the coaching hire was to be 'on the same page' as him. I feel like Moore's job is to say yes sir, absolutely sir, you sure are a genius Mr. Loomis sir.

Russel Wilson was 23 when drafted. Shough is 25 and will be 26 in September.

But as much as I am skeptical of this pick I do commend the team for not trading up, not trading future picks, and not drafting a reach, project, or injury prone player in the first round. Ultimately they took a shot in the 2nd round. Given the injury history and the lack of proven production due to the injury history, I doubt the pick works out, but at least its a cheap-ish shot with the size and athleticism that didnt cost a ton. Its not a worst case scenario. Probably he is Chris Weinke, but maybe there is a small shot he is Josh Allen, and taking that shot is not the worst thing we can do. Acting shocked if he does get injured down the line would be stupid though.

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He played in a pro style system where he was asked to make reads and throws that no other QB in this class did. He has better size, speed and arm strength than Shedeur.

Again, I'm not ready to anoint him the starter or even say he'll ever be good, but I think that's true of every QB in this years draft. The whole league passed on Shedeur in the 1st. The browns, who are every but as QB desperate as us had 2 chances to take Shedeur, and yes, Shough too, and passed on both. The Saints obviously believe in the guy. Only time will tell if they're right

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No way Moore takes this job to be a “yes” man. This wasn’t his only opportunity and Loomis is a numbers guy. He gave Payton and Allen personnel power.


Kurt Warner was 28 when he became starter coming from the NFL. I’m not really concerned about his age.

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I apologize someone has pointed this out earlier. I haven’t read the entire thread. I just wanted to chime in. This is the only time in my memory besides Archie Manning that we drafted a quarterback in the first or second round.

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I checked on this Archie Manning was our only 1st round QB pick. Dave Wilson was a supplemental 1st round pick, which is basically the same as 1st round pick, we gave up our 1st round pick the next year to be able to select him out of college a month or two after the draft. Steve Walsh was a recent supplemental 1st round pick we traded for. Tyler Shough is our first 2nd round QB pick.

Had the Saints not taken Wilson, they would have had the #3 overall pick in the 1982 draft and may have taken Jim McMahon, possibly resulting Mike Ditka either never winning a Super Bowl (if they took Todd Blackledge in 1983 instead, the top QB available at their 1st round pick that year) or winning many Super Bowls (if they took Jim Kelly in 1983, the next QB after Blackledge) and either way, Ditka never coming to the Saints either due to not being successful enough in Chicago or being too successful.

If you look at the Saints 1st round draft history, it is clear that two positions the organization values equally are Quarterback and Punter.

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Everything is a big deal to Bako as long as he can use it to put blame on Loomis.

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And everything is a smart move to Guido and Loomis as long as they can use it to blame losses on injuries forever.

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Hook em again!