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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by hitta Carr was much better than you guys gave him credit for. The offensive line during his tenure was offensive. He didn't have playmakers in the offense. He was thrown into an impossible situation where no QB ...
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Re: Derek Carr Retires
Originally Posted by hitta
I agree completely, hitta.
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Re: Derek Carr Retires
Originally Posted by hitta
Parts of this ring true, but a major portion of the blame has to go to Mickey and DA.![]()
They overpaid for Carr and instantly made him a team captain. They treated him like Brees 2.0 out of the gate, which was unfair for all involved. DA coached and spoke with overt favoritism toward Carr, which hurt Carr's relations with both his teammates and the fans. If they would've treated Carr similar to the non-descript way that Dalton was handled, a lot of misfortune and animosity could have been avoided. Instead, Mickey/DA put Carr in a situation where he was destined to be viewed in the worst light as problems arose. Only a special leader like Brees or Brady could've navigated all of this. Carr's not that kind of guy, and his interpersonal shortcomings got amplified. |
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Re: Derek Carr Retires
Originally Posted by hitta
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Originally Posted by neugey
While Drew Brees continues to invest in the greater NOLA area, I don't think we've seen any from Derek Carr. It goes to just how much he really cares. What is it they say... actions speak louder than words?![]()
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Re: Derek Carr Retires
Originally Posted by neugey
Mickey and DA? ![]()
Remember it was good ole SEAN PAYTON hisself who "Anointed" DA to be his successor. I believe he did everything he could to undermine the franchise who gave him his "Big Break". Don't forget Payton didn't want to live in New Orleans after seeing what Katrina had left him. He wanted to stay in "BIG D" and commute. Everything he did FOR THE SAINTS left the front office looking backward after he departed and didn't see the cliff he had steered the team toward prior to his "retirement" . As for all the coaches and former players who went with him. They are now the O in the BRONCO REAR END AKA, Sean PaytOn! |
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Re: Derek Carr Retires
Originally Posted by vpheughan
I read somewhere the SP wanted to come back after he ended his retirement and the FO said no and it pissed him off. Idk if that’s true or not. But I definitely read it somewhere.
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Re: Derek Carr Retires
I disagree.
Carr made himself unlikeable by screaming at players like Olave, for his own mistakes. He was constantly pointing fingers elsewhere. He gave credit to Dennis Allen for Darren Rizzi's first win, making wildly outlandish plays like throwing a ball randomly up in the air, on 2nd and 10, vs the chiefs for an interception we never recovered from. Raiders fans pointed out how bad he was in the red zone and coincidentally that was the same here. By all accounts, Saints reporter are saying that Carr actually asked for a pay rise before the retirement. Dude basically got an unbelievable contract because the front office didn't properly plan for life after Brees and made the poor decision to hire Dennis Allen. |
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Re: Derek Carr Retires
I’m one of the few that agree that Carr is a very good QB. We saw evidence of it in the first 2 and a half games of last season. Before the O-line fell apart because of injuries, the team and Carr were playing at top-level, including nearly beating the eventual SB champs. This team, even with a JV O-line, was competitive in many games. In fact, if the one-score games go their way, they could have finished the regular season as good as 11-6.
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Re: Derek Carr Retires
Originally Posted by mjf150
The problem with Carr was not his skill set. He was a decent QB. He was just an awful leader. He didn’t take any accountability or responsibility for bad decisions. He was not good in the face of adversity. By no fault of his own, he was also paid an enormous amount of money and didn’t live up to it. ![]()
People like Carr believe that if they do their best, it’s because of them that the team wins. And it’s because of someone else that the team loses. It’s never his fault. In other words, he’s a good leader when the team is winning. But that’s it. |
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