Derek Carr Retires

iceshack149 · 05-21-2025, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost.

Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books.

As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year.

Why is this still a conversation?

Brother, I'm starving for conversation on our beloved forum. I'm with you, though. This petty back and forth stuff doesn't do it for me.

neugey · 05-21-2025, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost.

Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books.

As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year.

Why is this still a conversation?

Agreed! We're not likely to get the honest truth on the Carr saga and at this point it is what it is.

Aside from still having our goober GM in Loomis, we can begin anew with new coaches and an updated roster for 2025-2026 and see where things land.

AsylumGuido · 05-21-2025, 10:21 AM

Sorry, but everything Bako posts turns into an indictment of the Saints organization. It's just difficult for me to leave that unaddressed. But, I agree, Carr is gone and it's time to move on and quit dwelling upon his time here.

K Major · 05-21-2025, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost.

Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books.

As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year.

Why is this still a conversation?

+10 Jnormand

Carmax is long gone. Bye.

TheOak · 05-21-2025, 03:45 PM

The NFL is not covered by HIPAA for the injury report because HIPAA covers the Health Insurance (the HI is for insurance), and it is the Team releasing the injury not the Doctor or an insurance company. The NFL is self insured.

It is also in the Ts and Cs of every players contract, they sign it away, just like when I sign away that right to allow my wife access to my medical records.my wife is not bound by HIPAA and can share that information publicly like the NFL does.

AsylumGuido · 05-21-2025, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

The NFL is not covered by HIPAA for the injury report because HIPAA covers the Health Insurance (the HI is for insurance), and it is the Team releasing the injury not the Doctor or an insurance company. The NFL is self insured.

It is also in the Ts and Cs of every players contract, they sign it away, just like when I sign away that right to allow my wife access to my medical records.my wife is not bound by HIPAA and can share that information publicly like the NFL does.

Correct! The league is self-insured, as are most teams for added coverage. The league and teams proper are not bound by HIPAA rules, but the internal entities handling the self-insurance are bound by them. The players do sign releases allowing the sharing of certain information under certain circumstances. Teams are required to share injury information to opposing teams during games and between games via the weekly injury reports. Beyond that I believe teams are not required to share any further or detailed information.

AsylumGuido · 05-21-2025, 05:04 PM

Here's the NFL's injury news sharing policy ...

https://operations.nfl.com/media/268...ort-policy.pdf

The intent is to provide full and complete information on player availability. It is NFL policy that information for dissemination to the public on all injured players be reported in a satisfactory manner by clubs to the league office, the opposing team, local and national media, and broadcast partners each game week of the regular season and postseason (including for the two Super Bowl teams between the Championship Games and Super Bowl).

Any injury information is only required during regular and postseason play. Any off-season sharing could be deemed counterproductive to the team. It is not in any way "need to know" information for fans and/or media.

If it makes some fans butthurt, so be it. I don't want my team sharing any info not specifically required by league rules.

Sinner · 05-23-2025, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Here's the NFL's injury news sharing policy ...

https://operations.nfl.com/media/268...ort-policy.pdf

The intent is to provide full and complete information on player availability. It is NFL policy that information for dissemination to the public on all injured players be reported in a satisfactory manner by clubs to the league office, the opposing team, local and national media, and broadcast partners each game week of the regular season and postseason (including for the two Super Bowl teams between the Championship Games and Super Bowl).

Any injury information is only required during regular and postseason play. Any off-season sharing could be deemed counterproductive to the team. It is not in any way "need to know" information for fans and/or media.

If it makes some fans butthurt, so be it. I don't want my team sharing any info not specifically required by league rules.

Raider Curbside Trash collected some big Saints cash, but now his @$$ is GONE.
Time for you to move on.

iceshack149 · 05-23-2025, 02:31 PM

05-21-2025, 09:28 AM	#1
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,426 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Derek Carr Retires Originally Posted by jnormand Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost. Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books. As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year. Why is this still a conversation? Brother, I'm starving for conversation on our beloved forum. I'm with you, though. This petty back and forth stuff doesn't do it for me. jnormand, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

05-21-2025, 09:41 AM	#2
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,869 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Derek Carr Retires Originally Posted by jnormand Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost. Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books. As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year. Why is this still a conversation? Agreed! We're not likely to get the honest truth on the Carr saga and at this point it is what it is. Aside from still having our goober GM in Loomis, we can begin anew with new coaches and an updated roster for 2025-2026 and see where things land. jnormand and AsylumGuido like this.

05-21-2025, 10:21 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: Derek Carr Retires Sorry, but everything Bako posts turns into an indictment of the Saints organization. It's just difficult for me to leave that unaddressed. But, I agree, Carr is gone and it's time to move on and quit dwelling upon his time here.

05-21-2025, 11:12 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Derek Carr Retires Originally Posted by jnormand Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost. Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books. As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year. Why is this still a conversation? +10 Jnormand Carmax is long gone. Bye. jnormand and Sinner like this.

05-21-2025, 03:45 PM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,049	Re: Derek Carr Retires The NFL is not covered by HIPAA for the injury report because HIPAA covers the Health Insurance (the HI is for insurance), and it is the Team releasing the injury not the Doctor or an insurance company. The NFL is self insured. It is also in the Ts and Cs of every players contract, they sign it away, just like when I sign away that right to allow my wife access to my medical records.my wife is not bound by HIPAA and can share that information publicly like the NFL does. AsylumGuido and SmashMouth like this.

05-21-2025, 04:28 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: Derek Carr Retires Originally Posted by TheOak The NFL is not covered by HIPAA for the injury report because HIPAA covers the Health Insurance (the HI is for insurance), and it is the Team releasing the injury not the Doctor or an insurance company. The NFL is self insured. It is also in the Ts and Cs of every players contract, they sign it away, just like when I sign away that right to allow my wife access to my medical records.my wife is not bound by HIPAA and can share that information publicly like the NFL does. Correct! The league is self-insured, as are most teams for added coverage. The league and teams proper are not bound by HIPAA rules, but the internal entities handling the self-insurance are bound by them. The players do sign releases allowing the sharing of certain information under certain circumstances. Teams are required to share injury information to opposing teams during games and between games via the weekly injury reports. Beyond that I believe teams are not required to share any further or detailed information.

05-21-2025, 05:04 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,666	Re: Derek Carr Retires Here's the NFL's injury news sharing policy ... https://operations.nfl.com/media/268...ort-policy.pdf The intent is to provide full and complete information on player availability. It is NFL policy that information for dissemination to the public on all injured players be reported in a satisfactory manner by clubs to the league office, the opposing team, local and national media, and broadcast partners each game week of the regular season and postseason (including for the two Super Bowl teams between the Championship Games and Super Bowl). Any injury information is only required during regular and postseason play. Any off-season sharing could be deemed counterproductive to the team. It is not in any way "need to know" information for fans and/or media. If it makes some fans butthurt, so be it. I don't want my team sharing any info not specifically required by league rules.
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05-23-2025, 01:33 PM	#8
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,071	Re: Derek Carr Retires Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Here's the NFL's injury news sharing policy ... https://operations.nfl.com/media/268...ort-policy.pdf The intent is to provide full and complete information on player availability. It is NFL policy that information for dissemination to the public on all injured players be reported in a satisfactory manner by clubs to the league office, the opposing team, local and national media, and broadcast partners each game week of the regular season and postseason (including for the two Super Bowl teams between the Championship Games and Super Bowl). Any injury information is only required during regular and postseason play. Any off-season sharing could be deemed counterproductive to the team. It is not in any way "need to know" information for fans and/or media. If it makes some fans butthurt, so be it. I don't want my team sharing any info not specifically required by league rules. Raider Curbside Trash collected some big Saints cash, but now his @$$ is GONE. Time for you to move on. K Major likes this.
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05-23-2025, 02:31 PM	#9
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