Derek Carr Retires

05-20-2025, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Uh, you are aware that "fans" are not required, nor allowed, to be privy to any player's medical issues outside of the active season, right? Probably not, given your accuracy, or total lack thereof, on this issue to the present. The only reason any medical issues can be shared during the season are CBA requirements through negotiated agreements waiving HIPAA guidelines.

The Saints hid nothing that any other team did not share about their players. The Saints did exactly what was required according to NFL CBA guidelines. Nothing more and nothing less.

Take your goofy assed conspiracy theories back to your IHateLoomis.com website and share them with your extensive following.

HIPAA applies to healthcare providers not to the Saints. Tons of teams provide tons of injury updates during the offseason. The Saints did not simply fail to provide injury updates on Carr during the offseason and the Saints have provided many in the past, instead the Saints provided affirmative statements indicating Carr's recovery was going well, declaring they expected him to be their starting QB for the 2025 season. The law doesn't require teams to be silent on players injury outlook in the offseason, and the problem wasn't that the Saints were silent, its that they actively told lies to cover up the truth.

AsylumGuido · 05-21-2025, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

HIPAA applies to healthcare providers not to the Saints. Tons of teams provide tons of injury updates during the offseason. The Saints did not simply fail to provide injury updates on Carr during the offseason and the Saints have provided many in the past, instead the Saints provided affirmative statements indicating Carr's recovery was going well, declaring they expected him to be their starting QB for the 2025 season. The law doesn't require teams to be silent on players injury outlook in the offseason, and the problem wasn't that the Saints were silent, its that they actively told lies to cover up the truth.

Wrong, Bako. HIPAA absolutely DOES apply to employers that maintain self-administered health plans such as NFL teams.

The Saints hid nothing from the public that they were obliged to share. They did verify info once Carr went public himself. Besides, the injury that contributed to Carr's decision to retire, according to Carr himself, was not discovered until after he began training for the new season. It was not known until he began throwing well after the end of last season.

But don't let accuracy stand in the way of your hatred of the Saints front office.

SmashMouth · 05-21-2025, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

HIPAA applies to healthcare providers not to the Saints. Tons of teams provide tons of injury updates during the offseason. The Saints did not simply fail to provide injury updates on Carr during the offseason and the Saints have provided many in the past, instead the Saints provided affirmative statements indicating Carr's recovery was going well, declaring they expected him to be their starting QB for the 2025 season. The law doesn't require teams to be silent on players injury outlook in the offseason, and the problem wasn't that the Saints were silent, its that they actively told lies to cover up the truth.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Wrong, Bako. HIPAA absolutely DOES apply to employers that maintain self-administered health plans such as NFL teams.

The Saints hid nothing from the public that they were obliged to share. They did verify info once Carr went public himself. Besides, the injury that contributed to Carr's decision to retire, according to Carr himself, was not discovered until after he began training for the new season. It was not known until he began throwing well after the end of last season.

But don't let accuracy stand in the way of your hatred of the Saints front office.

HIPAA, HIPAA, HIPAA ... Will we ever hear leaked Derek Carr's visits to his gynecologist? Would that be an undisclosed reason for his retirement?

AsylumGuido · 05-21-2025, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

HIPAA, HIPAA, HIPAA ... Will we ever hear leaked Derek Carr's visits to his gynecologist? Would that be an undisclosed reason for his retirement?

I'm sure the only visit Carr made to a gynecologist would have been related to his wife's pregnancy and miscarriage.

jnormand · 05-21-2025, 09:19 AM

Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost.

Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books.

As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year.

Why is this still a conversation?

iceshack149 · 05-21-2025, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost.

Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books.

As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year.

Why is this still a conversation?

Brother, I'm starving for conversation on our beloved forum. I'm with you, though. This petty back and forth stuff doesn't do it for me.

neugey · 05-21-2025, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost.

Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books.

As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year.

Why is this still a conversation?

Agreed! We're not likely to get the honest truth on the Carr saga and at this point it is what it is.

Aside from still having our goober GM in Loomis, we can begin anew with new coaches and an updated roster for 2025-2026 and see where things land.

AsylumGuido · 05-21-2025, 10:21 AM

Sorry, but everything Bako posts turns into an indictment of the Saints organization. It's just difficult for me to leave that unaddressed. But, I agree, Carr is gone and it's time to move on and quit dwelling upon his time here.

SmashMouth · 05-21-2025, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

HIPAA, HIPAA, HIPAA ... Will we ever hear leaked Derek Carr's visits to his gynecologist? Would that be an undisclosed reason for his retirement?

I am so sorry the joke went over everyone's head. I'll still leave it there in case someone figured it out .

K Major · 05-21-2025, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost.

Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books.

As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year.

Why is this still a conversation?

+10 Jnormand

Carmax is long gone. Bye.

05-20-2025, 07:38 PM	#51
Threaded by BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,459 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Uh, you are aware that "fans" are not required, nor allowed, to be privy to any player's medical issues outside of the active season, right? Probably not, given your accuracy, or total lack thereof, on this issue to the present. The only reason any medical issues can be shared during the season are CBA requirements through negotiated agreements waiving HIPAA guidelines. The Saints hid nothing that any other team did not share about their players. The Saints did exactly what was required according to NFL CBA guidelines. Nothing more and nothing less. Take your goofy assed conspiracy theories back to your IHateLoomis.com website and share them with your extensive following. HIPAA applies to healthcare providers not to the Saints. Tons of teams provide tons of injury updates during the offseason. The Saints did not simply fail to provide injury updates on Carr during the offseason and the Saints have provided many in the past, instead the Saints provided affirmative statements indicating Carr's recovery was going well, declaring they expected him to be their starting QB for the 2025 season. The law doesn't require teams to be silent on players injury outlook in the offseason, and the problem wasn't that the Saints were silent, its that they actively told lies to cover up the truth.
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05-21-2025, 07:44 AM	#52
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,953	Re: Derek Carr Retires Originally Posted by BakoSaint HIPAA applies to healthcare providers not to the Saints. Tons of teams provide tons of injury updates during the offseason. The Saints did not simply fail to provide injury updates on Carr during the offseason and the Saints have provided many in the past, instead the Saints provided affirmative statements indicating Carr's recovery was going well, declaring they expected him to be their starting QB for the 2025 season. The law doesn't require teams to be silent on players injury outlook in the offseason, and the problem wasn't that the Saints were silent, its that they actively told lies to cover up the truth. Wrong, Bako. HIPAA absolutely DOES apply to employers that maintain self-administered health plans such as NFL teams. The Saints hid nothing from the public that they were obliged to share. They did verify info once Carr went public himself. Besides, the injury that contributed to Carr's decision to retire, according to Carr himself, was not discovered until after he began training for the new season. It was not known until he began throwing well after the end of last season. But don't let accuracy stand in the way of your hatred of the Saints front office. SmashMouth likes this.
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05-21-2025, 08:14 AM	#53
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,273 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Derek Carr Retires Originally Posted by BakoSaint HIPAA applies to healthcare providers not to the Saints. Tons of teams provide tons of injury updates during the offseason. The Saints did not simply fail to provide injury updates on Carr during the offseason and the Saints have provided many in the past, instead the Saints provided affirmative statements indicating Carr's recovery was going well, declaring they expected him to be their starting QB for the 2025 season. The law doesn't require teams to be silent on players injury outlook in the offseason, and the problem wasn't that the Saints were silent, its that they actively told lies to cover up the truth. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Wrong, Bako. HIPAA absolutely DOES apply to employers that maintain self-administered health plans such as NFL teams. The Saints hid nothing from the public that they were obliged to share. They did verify info once Carr went public himself. Besides, the injury that contributed to Carr's decision to retire, according to Carr himself, was not discovered until after he began training for the new season. It was not known until he began throwing well after the end of last season. But don't let accuracy stand in the way of your hatred of the Saints front office. HIPAA, HIPAA, HIPAA ... Will we ever hear leaked Derek Carr's visits to his gynecologist? Would that be an undisclosed reason for his retirement?

05-21-2025, 08:18 AM	#54
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,953	Re: Derek Carr Retires Originally Posted by SmashMouth HIPAA, HIPAA, HIPAA ... Will we ever hear leaked Derek Carr's visits to his gynecologist? Would that be an undisclosed reason for his retirement? I'm sure the only visit Carr made to a gynecologist would have been related to his wife's pregnancy and miscarriage.

05-21-2025, 09:19 AM	#55
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,808	Re: Derek Carr Retires Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost. Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books. As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year. Why is this still a conversation? neugey, Crusader, AsylumGuido and 2 others like this.

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05-21-2025, 09:28 AM	#56
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,488 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Derek Carr Retires Originally Posted by jnormand Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost. Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books. As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year. Why is this still a conversation? Brother, I'm starving for conversation on our beloved forum. I'm with you, though. This petty back and forth stuff doesn't do it for me. jnormand, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

05-21-2025, 09:41 AM	#57
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,885 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Derek Carr Retires Originally Posted by jnormand Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost. Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books. As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year. Why is this still a conversation? Agreed! We're not likely to get the honest truth on the Carr saga and at this point it is what it is. Aside from still having our goober GM in Loomis, we can begin anew with new coaches and an updated roster for 2025-2026 and see where things land. jnormand and AsylumGuido like this.

05-21-2025, 10:21 AM	#58
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,953	Re: Derek Carr Retires Sorry, but everything Bako posts turns into an indictment of the Saints organization. It's just difficult for me to leave that unaddressed. But, I agree, Carr is gone and it's time to move on and quit dwelling upon his time here.

05-21-2025, 10:30 AM	#59
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,273 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Derek Carr Retires Originally Posted by SmashMouth HIPAA, HIPAA, HIPAA ... Will we ever hear leaked Derek Carr's visits to his gynecologist? Would that be an undisclosed reason for his retirement? I am so sorry the joke went over everyone's head. I'll still leave it there in case someone figured it out .

05-21-2025, 11:12 AM	#60
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,919 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Derek Carr Retires Originally Posted by jnormand Good grief. This is old. Carr is gone. He retired. This did the Saints and 99% of fans a favor. He wasn’t exactly a favorite. Most wanted the team to move on from him at any cost. Regardless, the only relevant thing now is that he’s being paid this year and next year. And it’s a fraction of what it would’ve been. Then he’s off the books. As far as how he was injured, if the Saints knew or not or if he lied or whatever, who cares? He’s gone and we have a new HC and staff and we’re gonna have a new starting QB this year. Why is this still a conversation? +10 Jnormand Carmax is long gone. Bye. jnormand and Sinner like this.