Time to trade Olave?

vpheughan · 07-17-2025, 04:09 PM

Chris Olave = Austin Collie

Chris Olave:

Nov. 3, 204 - Olave OUT with a concussion.
Oct. 13, 2024 - Concussion injury on Oct. 13 versus Tampa Bay.
Nov. 26, 2023 - In Week 12 against the Falcons, concussion.
Oct. 9, 2022 - Concussion
Oct. 24, 2020 - Ohio State vs. Nebraska game

Austin Collie: According to the search results, he experienced three concussions in a span of 22 months.

AsylumGuido · 07-17-2025, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Chris Olave = Austin Collie

Chris Olave:

Nov. 3, 204 - Olave OUT with a concussion.
Oct. 13, 2024 - Concussion injury on Oct. 13 versus Tampa Bay.
Nov. 26, 2023 - In Week 12 against the Falcons, concussion.
Oct. 9, 2022 - Concussion
Oct. 24, 2020 - Ohio State vs. Nebraska game

Austin Collie: According to the search results, he experienced three concussions in a span of 22 months.

More Rough Collies with as much relevance.

vpheughan · 07-17-2025, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

More Rough Collies with as much relevance.

The comparison was between two DIFFERENT FOOTBALL PLAYERS with similar concussion histories. One who's last name is Collie. FOOTBALL PLAYERS, not DOGS. Do you know the difference?

Here's relevance for you: The "REAL" Guido on the left Mr. Don Novella
The Clown "Guido" on the right using Mr. Novella's NAME, IMAGE AND LIKENESS
https://blackandgold.com/attachment....1&d=1752795499

K Major · 07-17-2025, 08:36 PM

I'm in the camp that is concerned about Olave's availability. Hopefully his concussion history is behind him but that sure is worrisome.

Four documented NFL concussions …. I pray for the man’s health.

saintsfan1976 · 07-18-2025, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I think the slot would make olave more susceptible to concussions. If anything he is safer as a one on one deep threat on the outside where he is running step for step in the same direction as the defender and seeking separation, then often going out of bounds before contact, versus working over the middle in traffic. Even if i cant prove its worse, good luck proving slot is better. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-in-todays-nfl

Lamb and Smith are both a lot bigger than Olave. Many modern slots are built big to withstand hits while olave is tiny. Also, Smith had a concussion in Moore’s offense last year.

If anything, losing Carr will be what helps Olave stay healthy. But even Hurts couldnt protect a bigger smith in Moore’s offense.

I think slot will reduce his concussions because Moore's offense should mean quicker throws, more YAC whereas previously Olave was exposed by late throws into middle traffic and a crashing safety.

voodooido · 07-18-2025, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The team knows EXACTLY what they have in him far better than what we as fans think. Besides a single minor ankle sprain Olave has only suffered some very minor Grade 1 concussions in his pro career. There probably isn't a player in college or the NFL that hasn't experienced Grade 1 concussions. The league is being far more deliberate in tracking them these days for obvious reasons. This includes monitoring for even minor symptoms for days following certain hits.

If we had been in the running for anything last season he wouldn't have even been placed on IR. Under Dennis Allen we had several questionable IR assignments.

Two concussions in a year is not minor. Not for anyone. And that’s the two we know of

AsylumGuido · 07-18-2025, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Two concussions in a year is not minor. Not for anyone. And that’s the two we know of

Just like every other player that experiences a concussion of any degree Olave went through the league's concussion protocol which requires as a final of five steps being "cleared by both the club physician and the independent neurological consultant to return to full activity". From what I have heard that basically means it has been determined that the player is subject to no greater danger than any other player playing the same position.

The player is more aware of any risk and is in a better position than any of us to weigh any risk. Playing in the NFL is risky for every player. That's one major reason why they get paid as much as they do. Let's not forget that these players have committed their entire lives to the privilege of playing in the league.

voodooido · 07-18-2025, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Just like every other player that experiences a concussion of any degree Olave went through the league's concussion protocol which requires as a final of five steps being "cleared by both the club physician and the independent neurological consultant to return to full activity". From what I have heard that basically means it has been determined that the player is subject to no greater danger than any other player playing the same position.

The player is more aware of any risk and is in a better position than any of us to weigh any risk. Playing in the NFL is risky for every player. That's one major reason why they get paid as much as they do. Let's not forget that these players have committed their entire lives to the privilege of playing in the league.

And now, after the leagues “concussion protocol” many suffer from CTE and have killed themselves and others. Do you believe the government about Covid 19 too? How many shots did you take? The kid has been beat up over the past few years. No telling how many he had in college or HS.

AsylumGuido · 07-18-2025, 11:10 AM

Saints WR Chris Olave 'not worried' after 'unlucky' concussions

Published: Jun 12, 2025 at 06:41 AM

Kevin Patra
Senior News Writer

New Orleans Saints wide receiver Chris Olave missed nine games in 2024 and played fewer than 10 snaps in two others after suffering two concussions.

The Nov. 3 concussion caused him to miss the final eight games of the season. He returned to the practice field in December but never participated in a game to close the campaign.

"It was tough, man, at first; I ain't never really sat out that long," Olave said on Wednesday, via The Associated Press. "That was really my first major injury. ... Just not being able to go and practice and go to meetings with my guys was the worst part, but I feel like I'm ready. I was training and lifting and everything in December. So, I feel like I'm good."

Olave's first two seasons were sensational, generating 1,000-plus yards in each campaign and proving an elite route runner. However, he's suffered at least four known concussions in his three seasons -- one in 2022 and one in 2023 before last year's two. He consulted with specialists after the latest head injury.

"They said I was OK back in December when they cleared me. It was just unlucky situations I was being put in," Olave said. "God's got me at the end of the day. I'm not worried about nothing. So, just got to go out there 100% and be ready."

Olave's injury history, coupled with the Saints' quarterback situation, has made the wideout the subject of trade rumors. He has two years left on his rookie contract after New Orleans picked up the $15.493 million fifth-year option for 2026.

Olave laughed off the trade chatter.

"It's all rumors, man," Olave said. "In the offseason, everybody's trying to have something for clicks. So, I love it here. I love the front office. I love my coaches. I'm excited to be here, and I want to be here forever."

BakoSaint · 07-18-2025, 01:15 PM

I take it all back. If Olave is laughing off 4 concussions and isn’t worried about anything because gods got him at the end of the day, I am sure everything will be fine. In general, athletes who miss future time with injury just sinned a lot and lack faith, like people who get in car accidents or are effected by natural disasters, whereas athletes with many past concussions just needed a laugh and will be fine. If a gambler says they will win, I believe them. The great thing about this is not only can Olave have a long career, he can do whatever he wants, laugh at serious risks after multiple warning signs, and there will be no consequences. Honestly it he just said the risk was worth it I could relate, but I feel like laughing at risks isn’t faith in god, ita hubris. Even if Olave didnt have this injury history, I would hesitate to pay a young Brandin Cooks type who thinks he’s elite the big money. He’s just not a dominant physical player he is a finesse guy who relies on speed and quickness and has always been good not great, once he loses a fraction of a step his production will drop. Sometimes the market for good matches the market for great because desperate teams need to sell to themselves and fans that their good players are great, but in the end the teams that recognize that mistake will prosper, like the Saints when they traded Graham (sorry, top corners could take him out of a game) and Cooks.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,561	Re: Time to trade Olave? Chris Olave = Austin Collie Chris Olave: Nov. 3, 204 - Olave OUT with a concussion. Oct. 13, 2024 - Concussion injury on Oct. 13 versus Tampa Bay. Nov. 26, 2023 - In Week 12 against the Falcons, concussion. Oct. 9, 2022 - Concussion Oct. 24, 2020 - Ohio State vs. Nebraska game Austin Collie: According to the search results, he experienced three concussions in a span of 22 months.
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07-17-2025, 04:38 PM	#32
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: Time to trade Olave? Originally Posted by vpheughan Chris Olave = Austin Collie Chris Olave: Nov. 3, 204 - Olave OUT with a concussion. Oct. 13, 2024 - Concussion injury on Oct. 13 versus Tampa Bay. Nov. 26, 2023 - In Week 12 against the Falcons, concussion. Oct. 9, 2022 - Concussion Oct. 24, 2020 - Ohio State vs. Nebraska game Austin Collie: According to the search results, he experienced three concussions in a span of 22 months. More Rough Collies with as much relevance.

07-17-2025, 06:58 PM	#33
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,561	Re: Time to trade Olave? [/IM Originally Posted by AsylumGuido More Rough Collies with as much relevance. The comparison was between two DIFFERENT FOOTBALL PLAYERS with similar concussion histories. One who's last name is Collie. FOOTBALL PLAYERS, not DOGS. Do you know the difference? Here's relevance for you: The "REAL" Guido on the left Mr. Don Novella The Clown "Guido" on the right using Mr. Novella's NAME, IMAGE AND LIKENESS https://blackandgold.com/attachment....1&d=1752795499 Attached Thumbnails
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07-17-2025, 08:36 PM	#34
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Time to trade Olave? I'm in the camp that is concerned about Olave's availability. Hopefully his concussion history is behind him but that sure is worrisome. Four documented NFL concussions …. I pray for the man’s health. SmashMouth likes this.

07-18-2025, 07:13 AM	#35
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,057 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Time to trade Olave? Originally Posted by BakoSaint I think the slot would make olave more susceptible to concussions. If anything he is safer as a one on one deep threat on the outside where he is running step for step in the same direction as the defender and seeking separation, then often going out of bounds before contact, versus working over the middle in traffic. Even if i cant prove its worse, good luck proving slot is better. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-in-todays-nfl Lamb and Smith are both a lot bigger than Olave. Many modern slots are built big to withstand hits while olave is tiny. Also, Smith had a concussion in Moore’s offense last year. If anything, losing Carr will be what helps Olave stay healthy. But even Hurts couldnt protect a bigger smith in Moore’s offense. I think slot will reduce his concussions because Moore's offense should mean quicker throws, more YAC whereas previously Olave was exposed by late throws into middle traffic and a crashing safety.

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07-18-2025, 10:00 AM	#36
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,846	Re: Time to trade Olave? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The team knows EXACTLY what they have in him far better than what we as fans think. Besides a single minor ankle sprain Olave has only suffered some very minor Grade 1 concussions in his pro career. There probably isn't a player in college or the NFL that hasn't experienced Grade 1 concussions. The league is being far more deliberate in tracking them these days for obvious reasons. This includes monitoring for even minor symptoms for days following certain hits. If we had been in the running for anything last season he wouldn't have even been placed on IR. Under Dennis Allen we had several questionable IR assignments. Two concussions in a year is not minor. Not for anyone. And that’s the two we know of
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: Time to trade Olave? Originally Posted by voodooido Two concussions in a year is not minor. Not for anyone. And that’s the two we know of Just like every other player that experiences a concussion of any degree Olave went through the league's concussion protocol which requires as a final of five steps being "cleared by both the club physician and the independent neurological consultant to return to full activity". From what I have heard that basically means it has been determined that the player is subject to no greater danger than any other player playing the same position. The player is more aware of any risk and is in a better position than any of us to weigh any risk. Playing in the NFL is risky for every player. That's one major reason why they get paid as much as they do. Let's not forget that these players have committed their entire lives to the privilege of playing in the league.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

07-18-2025, 11:07 AM	#38
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,846	Re: Time to trade Olave? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Just like every other player that experiences a concussion of any degree Olave went through the league's concussion protocol which requires as a final of five steps being "cleared by both the club physician and the independent neurological consultant to return to full activity". From what I have heard that basically means it has been determined that the player is subject to no greater danger than any other player playing the same position. The player is more aware of any risk and is in a better position than any of us to weigh any risk. Playing in the NFL is risky for every player. That's one major reason why they get paid as much as they do. Let's not forget that these players have committed their entire lives to the privilege of playing in the league. And now, after the leagues “concussion protocol” many suffer from CTE and have killed themselves and others. Do you believe the government about Covid 19 too? How many shots did you take? The kid has been beat up over the past few years. No telling how many he had in college or HS.
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07-18-2025, 11:10 AM	#39
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: Time to trade Olave? Saints WR Chris Olave 'not worried' after 'unlucky' concussions Published: Jun 12, 2025 at 06:41 AM Kevin Patra Senior News Writer New Orleans Saints wide receiver Chris Olave missed nine games in 2024 and played fewer than 10 snaps in two others after suffering two concussions. The Nov. 3 concussion caused him to miss the final eight games of the season. He returned to the practice field in December but never participated in a game to close the campaign. "It was tough, man, at first; I ain't never really sat out that long," Olave said on Wednesday, via The Associated Press. "That was really my first major injury. ... Just not being able to go and practice and go to meetings with my guys was the worst part, but I feel like I'm ready. I was training and lifting and everything in December. So, I feel like I'm good." Olave's first two seasons were sensational, generating 1,000-plus yards in each campaign and proving an elite route runner. However, he's suffered at least four known concussions in his three seasons -- one in 2022 and one in 2023 before last year's two. He consulted with specialists after the latest head injury. "They said I was OK back in December when they cleared me. It was just unlucky situations I was being put in," Olave said. "God's got me at the end of the day. I'm not worried about nothing. So, just got to go out there 100% and be ready." Olave's injury history, coupled with the Saints' quarterback situation, has made the wideout the subject of trade rumors. He has two years left on his rookie contract after New Orleans picked up the $15.493 million fifth-year option for 2026. Olave laughed off the trade chatter. "It's all rumors, man," Olave said. "In the offseason, everybody's trying to have something for clicks. So, I love it here. I love the front office. I love my coaches. I'm excited to be here, and I want to be here forever."
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

07-18-2025, 01:15 PM	#40
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,425	Re: Time to trade Olave? I take it all back. If Olave is laughing off 4 concussions and isn’t worried about anything because gods got him at the end of the day, I am sure everything will be fine. In general, athletes who miss future time with injury just sinned a lot and lack faith, like people who get in car accidents or are effected by natural disasters, whereas athletes with many past concussions just needed a laugh and will be fine. If a gambler says they will win, I believe them. The great thing about this is not only can Olave have a long career, he can do whatever he wants, laugh at serious risks after multiple warning signs, and there will be no consequences. Honestly it he just said the risk was worth it I could relate, but I feel like laughing at risks isn’t faith in god, ita hubris. Even if Olave didnt have this injury history, I would hesitate to pay a young Brandin Cooks type who thinks he’s elite the big money. He’s just not a dominant physical player he is a finesse guy who relies on speed and quickness and has always been good not great, once he loses a fraction of a step his production will drop. Sometimes the market for good matches the market for great because desperate teams need to sell to themselves and fans that their good players are great, but in the end the teams that recognize that mistake will prosper, like the Saints when they traded Graham (sorry, top corners could take him out of a game) and Cooks.
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