Time to trade Olave?

papz · 07-17-2025, 07:31 AM

He'd be great for a young quarterback.

vpheughan · 07-17-2025, 04:09 PM

Chris Olave = Austin Collie

Chris Olave:

Nov. 3, 204 - Olave OUT with a concussion.
Oct. 13, 2024 - Concussion injury on Oct. 13 versus Tampa Bay.
Nov. 26, 2023 - In Week 12 against the Falcons, concussion.
Oct. 9, 2022 - Concussion
Oct. 24, 2020 - Ohio State vs. Nebraska game

Austin Collie: According to the search results, he experienced three concussions in a span of 22 months.

AsylumGuido · 07-17-2025, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Chris Olave = Austin Collie

Chris Olave:

Nov. 3, 204 - Olave OUT with a concussion.
Oct. 13, 2024 - Concussion injury on Oct. 13 versus Tampa Bay.
Nov. 26, 2023 - In Week 12 against the Falcons, concussion.
Oct. 9, 2022 - Concussion
Oct. 24, 2020 - Ohio State vs. Nebraska game

Austin Collie: According to the search results, he experienced three concussions in a span of 22 months.

More Rough Collies with as much relevance.

vpheughan · 07-17-2025, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

More Rough Collies with as much relevance.

The comparison was between two DIFFERENT FOOTBALL PLAYERS with similar concussion histories. One who's last name is Collie. FOOTBALL PLAYERS, not DOGS. Do you know the difference?

Here's relevance for you: The "REAL" Guido on the left Mr. Don Novella
The Clown "Guido" on the right using Mr. Novella's NAME, IMAGE AND LIKENESS
https://blackandgold.com/attachment....1&d=1752795499

K Major · 07-17-2025, 08:36 PM

I'm in the camp that is concerned about Olave's availability. Hopefully his concussion history is behind him but that sure is worrisome.

Four documented NFL concussions …. I pray for the man’s health.

BakoSaint · 07-18-2025, 01:15 PM

I take it all back. If Olave is laughing off 4 concussions and isn’t worried about anything because gods got him at the end of the day, I am sure everything will be fine. In general, athletes who miss future time with injury just sinned a lot and lack faith, like people who get in car accidents or are effected by natural disasters, whereas athletes with many past concussions just needed a laugh and will be fine. If a gambler says they will win, I believe them. The great thing about this is not only can Olave have a long career, he can do whatever he wants, laugh at serious risks after multiple warning signs, and there will be no consequences. Honestly it he just said the risk was worth it I could relate, but I feel like laughing at risks isn’t faith in god, ita hubris. Even if Olave didnt have this injury history, I would hesitate to pay a young Brandin Cooks type who thinks he’s elite the big money. He’s just not a dominant physical player he is a finesse guy who relies on speed and quickness and has always been good not great, once he loses a fraction of a step his production will drop. Sometimes the market for good matches the market for great because desperate teams need to sell to themselves and fans that their good players are great, but in the end the teams that recognize that mistake will prosper, like the Saints when they traded Graham (sorry, top corners could take him out of a game) and Cooks.

SmashMouth · 07-25-2025, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I take it all back. If Olave is laughing off 4 concussions and isn’t worried about anything because gods got him at the end of the day, I am sure everything will be fine. In general, athletes who miss future time with injury just sinned a lot and lack faith, like people who get in car accidents or are effected by natural disasters, whereas athletes with many past concussions just needed a laugh and will be fine. If a gambler says they will win, I believe them. The great thing about this is not only can Olave have a long career, he can do whatever he wants, laugh at serious risks after multiple warning signs, and there will be no consequences. Honestly it he just said the risk was worth it I could relate, but I feel like laughing at risks isn’t faith in god, ita hubris. Even if Olave didnt have this injury history, I would hesitate to pay a young Brandin Cooks type who thinks he’s elite the big money. He’s just not a dominant physical player he is a finesse guy who relies on speed and quickness and has always been good not great, once he loses a fraction of a step his production will drop. Sometimes the market for good matches the market for great because desperate teams need to sell to themselves and fans that their good players are great, but in the end the teams that recognize that mistake will prosper, like the Saints when they traded Graham (sorry, top corners could take him out of a game) and Cooks.

BB when in NE knew when to part ways with a player, Randy Moss included. Maybe Olave has 29 lives, more than cats, maybe not. We'll see sometime in the year. If a team backs up the Brinks Truck with draft picks and we can keep our cap going in the same more healthy direction, why not?

AsylumGuido · 08-01-2025, 11:43 AM

BakoSaint · 08-07-2025, 09:17 AM

To add to the debate on Olave's past concussions, it has come out that ammonia based smelling salts are broadly used in the NFL to 'boost alertness' and can make the symptoms of concussions. So all those 'mild grade 1' concussions Olave has had, and the times he has taken what looked to be a concussing hit, 'shook it off', and returned to the game. You have to wonder even more now about how many and how severe players like Olave's concussions have been and what the long term impact will be, because in addition to the subjective nature of concussion grading, and how severe even a grade 1 concussion can be with unconsciousness and memory loss, you also have widely used methods of masking the symptoms either in-game or to test out of the protocol.

The new NFL policy is that teams/staff will no longer be able to supply smelling salts, but players can still make the decisions on their own.

saintsfan1976 · 08-08-2025, 07:04 PM

BYOSS!

07-17-2025, 07:31 AM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,802	Re: Time to trade Olave? He'd be great for a young quarterback.

07-17-2025, 04:09 PM	#2
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,567	Re: Time to trade Olave? Chris Olave = Austin Collie Chris Olave: Nov. 3, 204 - Olave OUT with a concussion. Oct. 13, 2024 - Concussion injury on Oct. 13 versus Tampa Bay. Nov. 26, 2023 - In Week 12 against the Falcons, concussion. Oct. 9, 2022 - Concussion Oct. 24, 2020 - Ohio State vs. Nebraska game Austin Collie: According to the search results, he experienced three concussions in a span of 22 months.
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07-17-2025, 04:38 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,962	Re: Time to trade Olave? Originally Posted by vpheughan Chris Olave = Austin Collie Chris Olave: Nov. 3, 204 - Olave OUT with a concussion. Oct. 13, 2024 - Concussion injury on Oct. 13 versus Tampa Bay. Nov. 26, 2023 - In Week 12 against the Falcons, concussion. Oct. 9, 2022 - Concussion Oct. 24, 2020 - Ohio State vs. Nebraska game Austin Collie: According to the search results, he experienced three concussions in a span of 22 months. More Rough Collies with as much relevance.

07-17-2025, 06:58 PM	#4
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,567	Re: Time to trade Olave? [/IM Originally Posted by AsylumGuido More Rough Collies with as much relevance. The comparison was between two DIFFERENT FOOTBALL PLAYERS with similar concussion histories. One who's last name is Collie. FOOTBALL PLAYERS, not DOGS. Do you know the difference? Here's relevance for you: The "REAL" Guido on the left Mr. Don Novella The Clown "Guido" on the right using Mr. Novella's NAME, IMAGE AND LIKENESS https://blackandgold.com/attachment....1&d=1752795499 Attached Thumbnails
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07-17-2025, 08:36 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Time to trade Olave? I'm in the camp that is concerned about Olave's availability. Hopefully his concussion history is behind him but that sure is worrisome. Four documented NFL concussions …. I pray for the man’s health. SmashMouth likes this.

07-18-2025, 01:15 PM	#6
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,464	Re: Time to trade Olave? I take it all back. If Olave is laughing off 4 concussions and isn’t worried about anything because gods got him at the end of the day, I am sure everything will be fine. In general, athletes who miss future time with injury just sinned a lot and lack faith, like people who get in car accidents or are effected by natural disasters, whereas athletes with many past concussions just needed a laugh and will be fine. If a gambler says they will win, I believe them. The great thing about this is not only can Olave have a long career, he can do whatever he wants, laugh at serious risks after multiple warning signs, and there will be no consequences. Honestly it he just said the risk was worth it I could relate, but I feel like laughing at risks isn’t faith in god, ita hubris. Even if Olave didnt have this injury history, I would hesitate to pay a young Brandin Cooks type who thinks he’s elite the big money. He’s just not a dominant physical player he is a finesse guy who relies on speed and quickness and has always been good not great, once he loses a fraction of a step his production will drop. Sometimes the market for good matches the market for great because desperate teams need to sell to themselves and fans that their good players are great, but in the end the teams that recognize that mistake will prosper, like the Saints when they traded Graham (sorry, top corners could take him out of a game) and Cooks.
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07-25-2025, 05:19 PM	#7
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,285 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Time to trade Olave? Originally Posted by BakoSaint I take it all back. If Olave is laughing off 4 concussions and isn’t worried about anything because gods got him at the end of the day, I am sure everything will be fine. In general, athletes who miss future time with injury just sinned a lot and lack faith, like people who get in car accidents or are effected by natural disasters, whereas athletes with many past concussions just needed a laugh and will be fine. If a gambler says they will win, I believe them. The great thing about this is not only can Olave have a long career, he can do whatever he wants, laugh at serious risks after multiple warning signs, and there will be no consequences. Honestly it he just said the risk was worth it I could relate, but I feel like laughing at risks isn’t faith in god, ita hubris. Even if Olave didnt have this injury history, I would hesitate to pay a young Brandin Cooks type who thinks he’s elite the big money. He’s just not a dominant physical player he is a finesse guy who relies on speed and quickness and has always been good not great, once he loses a fraction of a step his production will drop. Sometimes the market for good matches the market for great because desperate teams need to sell to themselves and fans that their good players are great, but in the end the teams that recognize that mistake will prosper, like the Saints when they traded Graham (sorry, top corners could take him out of a game) and Cooks. BB when in NE knew when to part ways with a player, Randy Moss included. Maybe Olave has 29 lives, more than cats, maybe not. We'll see sometime in the year. If a team backs up the Brinks Truck with draft picks and we can keep our cap going in the same more healthy direction, why not?

08-01-2025, 11:43 AM	#8
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08-07-2025, 09:17 AM	#9
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,464	Re: Time to trade Olave? To add to the debate on Olave's past concussions, it has come out that ammonia based smelling salts are broadly used in the NFL to 'boost alertness' and can make the symptoms of concussions. So all those 'mild grade 1' concussions Olave has had, and the times he has taken what looked to be a concussing hit, 'shook it off', and returned to the game. You have to wonder even more now about how many and how severe players like Olave's concussions have been and what the long term impact will be, because in addition to the subjective nature of concussion grading, and how severe even a grade 1 concussion can be with unconsciousness and memory loss, you also have widely used methods of masking the symptoms either in-game or to test out of the protocol. The new NFL policy is that teams/staff will no longer be able to supply smelling salts, but players can still make the decisions on their own.
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