ssmitty

whoa there little doggie,,,,,,i have to agree with saintz08,(as a matter of fact saintz08, where the hell were you when i was debating this issue) and if you go back on my posts , i have been a bouman fan since they got him.........i have already stated i believe bouman can come in just as arron did with blake and take the job away.......mindblowing you say...........put him in..........i\'ll go with him to lead us there before brooks........and only signed to one yr you say? watch what happens if something goes down and bouman shines..........that contract will be quickly adjusted.....bottom line......i believe we have upgraded at quarterback not only with bouman but with tory as well, (say goodbye to jt i would guess) and if haslett does\'nt blow it again, we could go further than ever before..........just let me see bouman against the eagles for a few quarters..........i also think he will shine............smitty

saintfan

Not saying a single negative thing about Mr. Bouman. I\'m glad we\'ve got him and I think he\'s an upgrade at out #2 slot and yeah I think he could start. Just pondering outloud about how/why some folks are against Brooks...ANYbody over Brooks...and why? Is he really that bad...honestly, no, he\'s really that good, AND he\'ll only get better.

Little Doggie? Did you type that with an accent?

ssmitty

no\'sssssss, but, i\'ssssss, drinks with one.........not gonna go back and say how i feel about brooks other than we\'ve shown him the money............show me the superbowl....smitty

BillyCarpenter1

Todd Bouman Career Stats

Year Team G Cmp Att Pct Yds Yds/Att TD Int Sck Rtg
2001 MIN 5 51 89 57.3 795 8.9 8 4 4 98.3
2002 MIN 1 3 6 50.0 85 14.2 0 0 2 95.8
Totals: 6 54 95 56.8 880 9.3 8 4 6 98.6


This just in..............

Saints to start Todd Bouman over Aarron Brooks in 2003. After questioning Jim Haslett about his decision to start Bouman he said: \" Look, the guys thrown 95 passes in the NFL and completed 54 of them. How could you even ask a foolish question like that? Geez guys, what more proof do you need that this guy is a proven NFL quarterback?\"

Jimmy Haz then went on to say: \"Bouman is a proven and polished QB that set numerous records in Minnesota, and Aaron only threw for 3,400 yds and 27TD\'s last year. We feel based off what Bouman has done in his career, our QB position will be much more productive.\"

One reporter questioned Haz on starting Bouman based on his is limited time on the field..... Haz said- \" Playing time on the field really means nothing when evaluating a NFL QB. Three games is more than enough. You guys in the media are always trying to start QB controversies, but fortunately for me, we have some very knowlegeable fans here in New Orleans and they know that Bouman is a far superior QB than Aaron Brooks can ever hope to be.\"

Well, there you have it folks, right from Jim Haslett himself.

I have to say I was a little skeptical at first, but after Jim explained the logic behind his decision, I am throughly convinced that he\'s making the right choice.

Haslett did say that the Carolina Panthers are interested in trading Jake Delhome and a 1st round draft choice for Brooks if he is released.







[Edited on 7/8/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

TomGreen

Bouman won\'t start.

lumm0x

Bouman signing a one year contract has very little to do with the teams confidence in him. Bouman likely wanted only a one year deal. Why? Because he feels that there may be some turmoil in the QB position based on the fan reaction to Brooks last year. The team doesn\'t think that IMO. Bouman probably thinks he has a potential chance to get into a few games a) if Brooks re-injures the shoulder, or b) Haslett may be quicker to go to the bench based on last years booing escapade. He likely doesn\'t want to lock in long term, but to showcase enough that another team will take a shot like they did with Delhomme. Also it makes sense for the team like Smitty said since it lets fans and Brooks know that they aren\'t getting Bouman to be the future. I bash Brooks as much as the next guy, but I\'ll nitpick weakness in anyone just for fun, but the guy is our starter, and there isn\'t a big list of guys I\'d rather have.

saintz08

Lummox - want to borrow my list ????

Soon to be heard in the Superdome ?????

Backup QB Syndrome in Force
By John Holler
Date: Nov 17, 2002


It shouldn\'t come as any surprise if many Vikings fans start the chant to bench Daunte Culpepper today if things go badly against the Packers. When you think about it, backup QBs are a rich tradition in Minnesota\'s revolving door QB policy.
Let’s hope Daunte Culpepper isn\'t a news junkie. In fact, let’s hope he’s a recluse when it comes to the media.

For the past month, Culpepper has been called everything from a has-been to bum from local sports talk radio to national sports television. In one Twin Cities newspaper, a shortsighted columnist summed up the Vikings loss to the Giants by pleading for Todd Bouman to be the starter. In the other newspaper in the Twin Cities, a reader poll is still underway discussing Culpepper. The question asked doesn\'t wonder if Culpepper will be yanked from today’s game, it asks “when will Daunte Culpepper get pulled?�

The media attention to his struggles intensified when he was pulled from last Sunday’s game – a contest in the third quarter that, at the time of his being told he was being benched, the team still trailed by just seven points. From that moment on, Culpepper has endured the worst week of his life.

Everybody, it seems, has an opinion. Most are weak opinions – trade him, keep him on the bench, cut him – but they show how passionate people are about changing things around for the better. Bouman has become the fair-haired boy, just as Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, Randall Cunningham and Jeff George were before him. He can do no wrong in their eyes. It may not help that, in nine quarters – just a little more than two games -- as the Vikings quarterback, Bouman has found Randy Moss 20 times for 412 yards and four touchdowns.

Perhaps it has been the conditioning of Vikings fans to want somebody new at quarterback. It’s nothing new -- it\'s become a trademark of the Vikings in recent years.

The last franchise quarterback the Vikings had was Tommy Kramer. From 1979-86, Kramer was the guy out there almost every Sunday during the time when the Purple People Eaters of the ‘70s were ferreted out one by one – including coach Bud Grant and the guy he replaced, Hall of Famer Fran Tarkenton. For the next three years starting in 1987, Kramer began taking a back seat to backup Wade Wilson – the Todd Bouman of his generation. That would start the ball rolling.

\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton
On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan
Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

BillyCarpenter1

When Brooks took over for Jeff Blake he immediately set the NFL world on fire. In eight starts (including playoffs) he had a 400 yard passing game, a 100 yard rushing game, two 4 TD passes games and a 2 TD rushing game. These are feats that are unheard of from any NFL starter.

Now I know all of you Books haters are going to tell me that this means nothing, because of how poorly Brooks has played since then, especially last year. (3,400 yards and 27 TD\'s)

We need to keep this game of QB musical chairs going on forever. Put Bouman in- he stinks-call Archie Manning out of retirement. But the only thing this would accomplish is that in a hundred years or so from now, all of you Brooks bashers would learn to give a QB enough time to develop. Nah...most of you have been watching football your whole life and you still don\'t get it..


Todd Bouman- I\'m warning you there are fans out there that will be calling for your head in a year or so.......

saintz08

So what has Bouman done ??

Only made some second guess a top 5 , 102 million dollar quarterback in only playing a couple of games .......

He did not have the luxury of Culpepper breaking his foot and going out for the season to get valuable playing time in the N.F.L. .

He was only good enough to make a Head Coach look at Culpepper and say \" Sit your butt down , we are putting Bouman in \" .

And by the way he was only good enough to have Haslett take note of him and trade for him ..................

BillyCarpenter1

saintz08,

I think Todd has some god given talents at QB. I think I remember reading he was the slam dunk champion in college. I also know he has one heck of an arm. He performed very well in those games you speak of. I think he is capiable of leading an NFL team.

The only thing is, Brooks has done nothing to justify him not being the starter. Brooks has done some amazing things himself and he\'s just now at the point where he should step up and be the leader that everyone is calling for him to be.

I really have no problem with anyone calling for his head, it goes along with the position and just about every great QB goes through this at some point.

Aaron will settle my argument on the field this year. Till then the GREAT DEBATE will go on and on and on and on.........like the Energizer Bunny....