Our current draft position

Euphoria · 11-16-2005, 12:22 PM

Its comes down the the SOS at the end of the year. The team with the weakest schedule get the edge. If there can't not break a tie by that then it goes to Division wins and then Conferance wins and still can't break a tie then they flip a coin. The way its going it could come down to a game that neither of the teams are playing in weather they pick 5 or 1.

saintswhodi · 11-16-2005, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by mjf150

I agree with everything you just said except for this:

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

So if we are tied with say Tenn, And Tenn's opponents have a .550 winning percentage, and ours have a .490 winning percentage, we would pick before them due to the fact we played an easier schedule, and still had a bad record.

I believe it is just the opposite. The team that played the stronger schedule pick before the team that had it easier.

Naw, I am pretty sure it's the opposite of what you said. Example: Team A plays 8 playoff teams, and 8 non playoff teams and is 8-8. Team B plays NO playoff teams, and is 8-8. Team B would get the higher draft pick because they had an easier schedule, and still ended up with a poor record. The draft is set up to reward the teams who need help the most.

mjf150 · 11-22-2005, 09:14 AM

Okay, Stewie. If your right, then when the current draft order comes out later today, then it should be as follows:

Pk Teams Rec. Opp. Rec.
1) Texans 1-9 N/A
2) Titans 2-8 50-50
3) Saints 2-8 51-49
4) Packer 2-8 54-46
5) NYJets 2-8 57-43
6) 49ers 2-8 62-28

I guess we'll see.

saintswhodi · 11-22-2005, 05:53 PM

Is it like that? I haven't looked, but I think that should be right. But now that you make me look at it, I think I could be way wrong. lol I am not sure now. We will see.

TallySaint · 11-23-2005, 09:26 AM

Where we need alot of help on both sides of the ball (and special teams, at times), I'd be cool to finagle two first rounders in Bush and Cutler....

8)

mjf150 · 11-23-2005, 01:09 PM

Stewie, the new draft order is out and it goes as follows: Houston, Tenn, NY Jets, then New Orleans. How do you figure that? The Jets opponents have a 57-43 record and the Saints opponents have a 51-49 record. The Saints should pick before them. It doesn't make sense. Tennessee should pick second b/c their opponents have a 50-50 record. So, it isn't in order of worst opponent record to best opponent record. There must best something else to the formula. Does anyone know why the order is the way it is?

There is, however, one surefire way to leapfrog the Jets - lose to them on Sunday.

Euphoria · 11-23-2005, 03:08 PM

Uhm I hope you aren't using that website... that isn't the official website who controls the draft order. Right now the Saints are currently 3rd in the draft order. They are wrong.

saintswhodi · 11-23-2005, 03:58 PM

I guess that answers that.

mjf150 · 11-29-2005, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Uhm I hope you aren't using that website... that isn't the official website who controls the draft order. Right now the Saints are currently 3rd in the draft order. They are wrong.

Where did you find the "official website" with the draft order stating that the Saints were in third as of last week?

saintswhodi · 11-29-2005, 09:09 AM

mjf, look at this:

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/fea...raftorder.html

Notice, the teams that are tied. The ones with a WORSE SOS are higher, just like I said. If you play a weaker schedule, yet still have a bad record, you draft higher than a team with the same record that played a tougher schedule. It's how they promote parity. Notice: NYJ, SF, and GB are all 2-9. But NYJ SOS is .517, SF is .545 and GB is .551, and that is how NYJ is 2, SF 3 and GB 4. Same thing for all 3-8 teams. Same thing for all 4-7 teams. You will find the same thing on the entire draft order.

11-16-2005, 12:26 PM	#52
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by mjf150 I agree with everything you just said except for this: Originally Posted by saintswhodi So if we are tied with say Tenn, And Tenn's opponents have a .550 winning percentage, and ours have a .490 winning percentage, we would pick before them due to the fact we played an easier schedule, and still had a bad record. I believe it is just the opposite. The team that played the stronger schedule pick before the team that had it easier. Naw, I am pretty sure it's the opposite of what you said. Example: Team A plays 8 playoff teams, and 8 non playoff teams and is 8-8. Team B plays NO playoff teams, and is 8-8. Team B would get the higher draft pick because they had an easier schedule, and still ended up with a poor record. The draft is set up to reward the teams who need help the most.

11-22-2005, 09:14 AM	#53
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 716	Okay, Stewie. If your right, then when the current draft order comes out later today, then it should be as follows: Pk Teams Rec. Opp. Rec. 1) Texans 1-9 N/A 2) Titans 2-8 50-50 3) Saints 2-8 51-49 4) Packer 2-8 54-46 5) NYJets 2-8 57-43 6) 49ers 2-8 62-28 I guess we'll see.
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11-23-2005, 01:09 PM	#56
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 716	Stewie, the new draft order is out and it goes as follows: Houston, Tenn, NY Jets, then New Orleans. How do you figure that? The Jets opponents have a 57-43 record and the Saints opponents have a 51-49 record. The Saints should pick before them. It doesn't make sense. Tennessee should pick second b/c their opponents have a 50-50 record. So, it isn't in order of worst opponent record to best opponent record. There must best something else to the formula. Does anyone know why the order is the way it is? There is, however, one surefire way to leapfrog the Jets - lose to them on Sunday.
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11-29-2005, 08:54 AM	#59
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 716	Originally Posted by Euphoria Uhm I hope you aren't using that website... that isn't the official website who controls the draft order. Right now the Saints are currently 3rd in the draft order. They are wrong. Where did you find the "official website" with the draft order stating that the Saints were in third as of last week?
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11-16-2005, 12:22 PM	#51
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Its comes down the the SOS at the end of the year. The team with the weakest schedule get the edge. If there can't not break a tie by that then it goes to Division wins and then Conferance wins and still can't break a tie then they flip a coin. The way its going it could come down to a game that neither of the teams are playing in weather they pick 5 or 1.

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11-22-2005, 05:53 PM	#54
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Is it like that? I haven't looked, but I think that should be right. But now that you make me look at it, I think I could be way wrong. lol I am not sure now. We will see.

11-23-2005, 09:26 AM	#55
TallySaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,367	Where we need alot of help on both sides of the ball (and special teams, at times), I'd be cool to finagle two first rounders in Bush and Cutler.... 8)

11-23-2005, 03:08 PM	#57
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Uhm I hope you aren't using that website... that isn't the official website who controls the draft order. Right now the Saints are currently 3rd in the draft order. They are wrong.

11-23-2005, 03:58 PM	#58
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I guess that answers that.

11-29-2005, 09:09 AM	#60
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	mjf, look at this: http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/fea...raftorder.html Notice, the teams that are tied. The ones with a WORSE SOS are higher, just like I said. If you play a weaker schedule, yet still have a bad record, you draft higher than a team with the same record that played a tougher schedule. It's how they promote parity. Notice: NYJ, SF, and GB are all 2-9. But NYJ SOS is .517, SF is .545 and GB is .551, and that is how NYJ is 2, SF 3 and GB 4. Same thing for all 3-8 teams. Same thing for all 4-7 teams. You will find the same thing on the entire draft order.