Aaron Brooks 2 touchdowns away from breacking archies record

CheramieIII · 11-13-2005, 08:58 PM

Thanks Woody and X, I think it's going to take a while to get a reply.

blackwidows · 11-13-2005, 09:12 PM

The only stat that matters is this Aaron Brooks the only qb to lead the Saints to A playoff victory. Owe how soon do we forget. Yes Milne secured it Willie Jackson in Joe Horns absence scores 4 TD'S. A record for the franchise in the post season. Bye the way did Archie manning win a playoff game? The Answer is No. To be honest i'm to young to have watched manning play. When he was playing i had my mind on other things. I didn't start watching football till 89 I was born in 78. I know this though you did not see a 3,000 yard passesr to much in these times Manning played. They ran more back in that day so Manning went to the probowl on stats that would not get you in in on to days scale. What surprises me is how did vick get in.
Heres a guy that has only threw for 300 yards in a game once. never threw for 20 touchdowns in a career ever.

APSaintsfan · 11-13-2005, 09:31 PM

Remember Archie played in seasons with only 14 games per season. Yes, I do credit Brooks for winning our only playoff win but Blake was 7-4 and winning the last game he played against Oakland and then Brooks came in and finished up. SO, actually Brooks was actually 2-3 for the last 5 games of that season. So, Why did we get Brooks to start the 2001 season when Blake was well and could have played??? Begs an answer on this one. Were we stupid or not?? Think about it?? We were going to be 8-4 anyway so if Blake would have been in for the whole season he could have possibly made us 11-5 instead of 10-6.

CheramieIII · 11-13-2005, 09:38 PM

AB just happened to be their when it happened and it happened in spite of him, not because of him. Also, add this to the stats I gave you from the official site. AB already has 12 int's this year so you do the math. He will most certainly break Archies record for Ints to, if he were to stay around that long, which will never happen. By the way does anyone care that AB's passer rating this year is 66.6, yes I said it, 66.6. AB also has the most Int in a season.

You know he was the only QB with a win in the playoffs but he is also the only one with a loss.

I also found on the official site that Archie threw for 3716 yards in 1980 and 3169 in 79 and these were the only 2 years I checked.

You guys need to get your facts straight before your bring that shiiiiiiitttttteeee to this board. Cuz someone's gonna check it twice and gonna find out you been naughty.

Tobias-Reiper · 11-13-2005, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by blackwidows

The only stat that matters is this Aaron Brooks the only qb to lead the Saints to A playoff victory. Owe how soon do we forget. Yes Milne secured it Willie Jackson in Joe Horns absence scores 4 TD'S. A record for the franchise in the post season. Bye the way did Archie manning win a playoff game? The Answer is No. To be honest i'm to young to have watched manning play. When he was playing i had my mind on other things. I didn't start watching football till 89 I was born in 78. I know this though you did not see a 3,000 yard passesr to much in these times Manning played. They ran more back in that day so Manning went to the probowl on stats that would not get you in in on to days scale. What surprises me is how did vick get in.
Heres a guy that has only threw for 300 yards in a game once. never threw for 20 touchdowns in a career ever.

There's a reason why you didn't see too many 3000 yd passers back then, and it wasn't because they ran the ball more; as mentioned before, there have been many a rule change to open up the game and give offenses the advantage and protect offense players. Just to mention a few:

... no 5 yd rule.
... no get out of the pocket and fling it past the LOS.
... no QB sliding rule.
... no roughing the QB.
... no defensive holding.
... no personal fouls for helmet to helmet.
... no personal fouls for hits to the head.

... also, in those days, there was no free agency.. it was much harder to build a team in those days... it took years... nowadays you see teams going from 3-13 one season to 13-3 the next...

CheramieIII · 11-13-2005, 09:50 PM

Thanks Tobias, some people's children.

CheramieIII · 11-13-2005, 09:54 PM

Archie also holds the record for most 250 yard games in a season, at 8. Where did you guys go. I dropped it down from 300 yards a game and AB still can't beat Archie,

You guys need to take the nipple off your bottles and drink the similac straight from it.

CruiserK · 11-13-2005, 09:59 PM

It is funny that in listing the stats that you guys left off most 250+ yard games in a season career, most TD passes in a season career, and game, Highest QB rating in a season career and game, most interceptions in a season, career and game, if you are going to list the stats list them all and you will see Brooks is statitiscally better.

Cruiser K

CheramieIII · 11-13-2005, 10:07 PM

Bring those stats here, don't make us go look, it you spout it you need to back it up or it ain't so and read my thread before your last attempt at a post. I addressed the most 250 yard games in a season and most interceptions was Brooks with 22 in 2001. I also addressed the career int's. I am bringing the stats to you and you aren't even reading them. It is very obvious you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

saintswhodi · 11-13-2005, 10:11 PM

It is very obvious you don't know what the hell you are talking about

I had that firgured out on page one of this thread. This is obviously someone just looking to get under people's skin. You made your points cherm xan, lynn, tobias, etc etc. Let it ride.

11-13-2005, 09:12 PM	#32
blackwidows 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 245	The only stat that matters is this Aaron Brooks the only qb to lead the Saints to A playoff victory. Owe how soon do we forget. Yes Milne secured it Willie Jackson in Joe Horns absence scores 4 TD'S. A record for the franchise in the post season. Bye the way did Archie manning win a playoff game? The Answer is No. To be honest i'm to young to have watched manning play. When he was playing i had my mind on other things. I didn't start watching football till 89 I was born in 78. I know this though you did not see a 3,000 yard passesr to much in these times Manning played. They ran more back in that day so Manning went to the probowl on stats that would not get you in in on to days scale. What surprises me is how did vick get in. Heres a guy that has only threw for 300 yards in a game once. never threw for 20 touchdowns in a career ever.
blackwidows 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 245

11-13-2005, 09:38 PM	#34
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	AB just happened to be their when it happened and it happened in spite of him, not because of him. Also, add this to the stats I gave you from the official site. AB already has 12 int's this year so you do the math. He will most certainly break Archies record for Ints to, if he were to stay around that long, which will never happen. By the way does anyone care that AB's passer rating this year is 66.6, yes I said it, 66.6. AB also has the most Int in a season. You know he was the only QB with a win in the playoffs but he is also the only one with a loss. I also found on the official site that Archie threw for 3716 yards in 1980 and 3169 in 79 and these were the only 2 years I checked. You guys need to get your facts straight before your bring that shiiiiiiitttttteeee to this board. Cuz someone's gonna check it twice and gonna find out you been naughty.
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11-13-2005, 09:41 PM	#35
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by blackwidows The only stat that matters is this Aaron Brooks the only qb to lead the Saints to A playoff victory. Owe how soon do we forget. Yes Milne secured it Willie Jackson in Joe Horns absence scores 4 TD'S. A record for the franchise in the post season. Bye the way did Archie manning win a playoff game? The Answer is No. To be honest i'm to young to have watched manning play. When he was playing i had my mind on other things. I didn't start watching football till 89 I was born in 78. I know this though you did not see a 3,000 yard passesr to much in these times Manning played. They ran more back in that day so Manning went to the probowl on stats that would not get you in in on to days scale. What surprises me is how did vick get in. Heres a guy that has only threw for 300 yards in a game once. never threw for 20 touchdowns in a career ever. There's a reason why you didn't see too many 3000 yd passers back then, and it wasn't because they ran the ball more; as mentioned before, there have been many a rule change to open up the game and give offenses the advantage and protect offense players. Just to mention a few: ... no 5 yd rule. ... no get out of the pocket and fling it past the LOS. ... no QB sliding rule. ... no roughing the QB. ... no defensive holding. ... no personal fouls for helmet to helmet. ... no personal fouls for hits to the head. ... also, in those days, there was no free agency.. it was much harder to build a team in those days... it took years... nowadays you see teams going from 3-13 one season to 13-3 the next...
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11-13-2005, 09:59 PM	#38
CruiserK Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 11	It is funny that in listing the stats that you guys left off most 250+ yard games in a season career, most TD passes in a season career, and game, Highest QB rating in a season career and game, most interceptions in a season, career and game, if you are going to list the stats list them all and you will see Brooks is statitiscally better. Cruiser K
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11-13-2005, 08:58 PM	#31
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11-13-2005, 09:31 PM	#33
APSaintsfan 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 119	Remember Archie played in seasons with only 14 games per season. Yes, I do credit Brooks for winning our only playoff win but Blake was 7-4 and winning the last game he played against Oakland and then Brooks came in and finished up. SO, actually Brooks was actually 2-3 for the last 5 games of that season. So, Why did we get Brooks to start the 2001 season when Blake was well and could have played??? Begs an answer on this one. Were we stupid or not?? Think about it?? We were going to be 8-4 anyway so if Blake would have been in for the whole season he could have possibly made us 11-5 instead of 10-6.

11-13-2005, 09:50 PM	#36
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Thanks Tobias, some people's children.

11-13-2005, 09:54 PM	#37
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Archie also holds the record for most 250 yard games in a season, at 8. Where did you guys go. I dropped it down from 300 yards a game and AB still can't beat Archie, You guys need to take the nipple off your bottles and drink the similac straight from it.

11-13-2005, 10:07 PM	#39
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Bring those stats here, don't make us go look, it you spout it you need to back it up or it ain't so and read my thread before your last attempt at a post. I addressed the most 250 yard games in a season and most interceptions was Brooks with 22 in 2001. I also addressed the career int's. I am bringing the stats to you and you aren't even reading them. It is very obvious you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

11-13-2005, 10:11 PM	#40
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	It is very obvious you don't know what the hell you are talking about I had that firgured out on page one of this thread. This is obviously someone just looking to get under people's skin. You made your points cherm xan, lynn, tobias, etc etc. Let it ride.