Aaron Brooks 2 touchdowns away from breacking archies record

blackwidows · 11-09-2005, 08:22 PM

Aaron Brooks only needs 2 touchdowns to break Archie Manning's record for most touchdowns passing as a Saints qb. The next game he throws for 300 yards he will tie Archie manning's record for most games with 300 yards passing in them in a career with (9).

saintswhodi · 11-09-2005, 08:52 PM

Sad, sad day when this happens. Sorry Archie, wish it coulda been a better player, or you would have had some more players arounf you.

xan · 11-10-2005, 03:52 AM

Pretty awful considering that Archie did it with Bozo the Clown and Mr. Greenjeans as wideouts and Brooks has half the Olympic relay team. Plus, with the bias towards passing in the rules today, even more of a shame that it's taken AB this long to get this close. But then, he's had to deal with a defense that can't handle his turnovers in the red zone.

If you thought that the current O-line has issues, you should look at some old film and marvel that Archie is alive. The O-lines that AB's had are Iron Curtains by comparison.

4saintspirit · 11-10-2005, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by xan

Pretty awful considering that Archie did it with Bozo the Clown and Mr. Greenjeans as wideouts and Brooks has half the Olympic relay team. Plus, with the bias towards passing in the rules today, even more of a shame that it's taken AB this long to get this close. But then, he's had to deal with a defense that can't handle his turnovers in the red zone.

If you thought that the current O-line has issues, you should look at some old film and marvel that Archie is alive. The O-lines that AB's had are Iron Curtains by comparison.

Well - first I think Archie is the man. But I do have to correct you on his wideouts. Matter of fact Archie for several years had Wes Chandler, Henry Childs, and Chuck Muncie all of whom made the pro bowl with Archie when he was offensive MVP.
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That said -- AB may have the stats but will never be near the QB that Archie was.

FireVenturi · 11-10-2005, 05:53 PM

just imagine if archie had this kind of talent around him...horn=H.O.F , Stallworth-Pro Bowler,etc,etc.

blackwidows · 11-10-2005, 08:42 PM

Technically Brooks is a better qb than Archie Brooks qb rating thus far is 79.9 Archie Manning's at the time of retirement was 67.3. Don't worry I will write my criticism's of Brooks tomarrow. One other thing though Brooks also has a better passer rating than Micheal Vick at this time. Of course Micheal Vick has only had 1 300 yard passing game in December of 2002 against Dallas. Micheal Vick also has never had a wide receiver cast and has never thrown for 3,000 yards or thrown for 20 td's. Once he turns 34 he will be nothing not even thought of. Micheal Vicks QB rating is 76.0

saintswhodi · 11-11-2005, 09:29 AM

Technically Brooks is a better qb than Archie Brooks qb rating thus far is 79.9 Archie Manning's at the time of retirement was 67.3.

Technically, Archie played for a CFL team that was in the NFL and still was league MVP one year. How many of those Brooks got, or will get?

Technically, when Archie played, there wasn't half the QB protection rules and passing rules that allow offenses to be wide open as they are today. QBs would get hit late, early, and often. Defenders would mug WRs, and LBs would lay them out if they dared cross the middle of the field. Now you can't breathe on a QB, and if you look at a receiver wrong, youget a flag.

Technically, if Archie played in today's NFL, he would be Brett Favre.

CruiserK · 11-12-2005, 06:00 PM

Please stop making excuses. I saw them both play. While Aaron is having a bad year he is certainly deserving of all accomplishments he has reached. I am sick of the Brooks Bashers not giving him his due. He has struggled but in all he is clearly the best QB the Saints have had and now he has the Stats to prove it. Not a Archie Basher or a Brooks lover just the plain
Truth. I think for some the truth hurts and they would never give him his due.

Cruiser K

saintswhodi · 11-12-2005, 06:47 PM

Must've been just "a bad year" last year too. You obviously haven't seen Archie play much if you think Brooks is in his class. The passing rules are 100% different from when Archie played, as well as the penalties. That's the truth. Who cares about Brooks' stats? Have they gotten him a league MVP? No? Archie is about 100x better than AB, mentally, heart, leadership, anything you want in a QB that AB doesn't have but "garbage time" stats.

Tobias-Reiper · 11-12-2005, 07:26 PM

...hmmm... first time poster... first post is "Brooks better than Archie... hmmm..

Welcome back, Billy!!!!

... it is an exercise in futility... stats are all that Brooks has... good for him..

... one thing is for certain, in 25 years from now, no one is going to remember who Aaron Brooks was, and his name wil most certainly NOT be preceded by "New Orleans Saints Legend", as Archie is referred to not only by Saints homers, but national broadcasters as well...

11-09-2005, 08:22 PM	#1
blackwidows 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 245	Aaron Brooks 2 touchdowns away from breacking archies record Aaron Brooks only needs 2 touchdowns to break Archie Manning's record for most touchdowns passing as a Saints qb. The next game he throws for 300 yards he will tie Archie manning's record for most games with 300 yards passing in them in a career with (9).
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11-10-2005, 03:02 PM	#4
4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690	Originally Posted by xan Pretty awful considering that Archie did it with Bozo the Clown and Mr. Greenjeans as wideouts and Brooks has half the Olympic relay team. Plus, with the bias towards passing in the rules today, even more of a shame that it's taken AB this long to get this close. But then, he's had to deal with a defense that can't handle his turnovers in the red zone. If you thought that the current O-line has issues, you should look at some old film and marvel that Archie is alive. The O-lines that AB's had are Iron Curtains by comparison. Well - first I think Archie is the man. But I do have to correct you on his wideouts. Matter of fact Archie for several years had Wes Chandler, Henry Childs, and Chuck Muncie all of whom made the pro bowl with Archie when he was offensive MVP. \ That said -- AB may have the stats but will never be near the QB that Archie was.
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11-10-2005, 08:42 PM	#6
blackwidows 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 245	Technically Brooks is a better qb than Archie Brooks qb rating thus far is 79.9 Archie Manning's at the time of retirement was 67.3. Don't worry I will write my criticism's of Brooks tomarrow. One other thing though Brooks also has a better passer rating than Micheal Vick at this time. Of course Micheal Vick has only had 1 300 yard passing game in December of 2002 against Dallas. Micheal Vick also has never had a wide receiver cast and has never thrown for 3,000 yards or thrown for 20 td's. Once he turns 34 he will be nothing not even thought of. Micheal Vicks QB rating is 76.0
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11-12-2005, 06:00 PM	#8
CruiserK Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 11	Please stop making excuses. I saw them both play. While Aaron is having a bad year he is certainly deserving of all accomplishments he has reached. I am sick of the Brooks Bashers not giving him his due. He has struggled but in all he is clearly the best QB the Saints have had and now he has the Stats to prove it. Not a Archie Basher or a Brooks lover just the plain Truth. I think for some the truth hurts and they would never give him his due. Cruiser K
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11-09-2005, 08:52 PM	#2
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Sad, sad day when this happens. Sorry Archie, wish it coulda been a better player, or you would have had some more players arounf you.

11-10-2005, 03:52 AM	#3
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Pretty awful considering that Archie did it with Bozo the Clown and Mr. Greenjeans as wideouts and Brooks has half the Olympic relay team. Plus, with the bias towards passing in the rules today, even more of a shame that it's taken AB this long to get this close. But then, he's had to deal with a defense that can't handle his turnovers in the red zone. If you thought that the current O-line has issues, you should look at some old film and marvel that Archie is alive. The O-lines that AB's had are Iron Curtains by comparison.

11-10-2005, 05:53 PM	#5
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	just imagine if archie had this kind of talent around him...horn=H.O.F , Stallworth-Pro Bowler,etc,etc.

11-11-2005, 09:29 AM	#7
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Technically Brooks is a better qb than Archie Brooks qb rating thus far is 79.9 Archie Manning's at the time of retirement was 67.3. Technically, Archie played for a CFL team that was in the NFL and still was league MVP one year. How many of those Brooks got, or will get? Technically, when Archie played, there wasn't half the QB protection rules and passing rules that allow offenses to be wide open as they are today. QBs would get hit late, early, and often. Defenders would mug WRs, and LBs would lay them out if they dared cross the middle of the field. Now you can't breathe on a QB, and if you look at a receiver wrong, youget a flag. Technically, if Archie played in today's NFL, he would be Brett Favre.

11-12-2005, 06:47 PM	#9
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Must've been just "a bad year" last year too. You obviously haven't seen Archie play much if you think Brooks is in his class. The passing rules are 100% different from when Archie played, as well as the penalties. That's the truth. Who cares about Brooks' stats? Have they gotten him a league MVP? No? Archie is about 100x better than AB, mentally, heart, leadership, anything you want in a QB that AB doesn't have but "garbage time" stats.

11-12-2005, 07:26 PM	#10
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	...hmmm... first time poster... first post is "Brooks better than Archie... hmmm.. Welcome back, Billy!!!! ... it is an exercise in futility... stats are all that Brooks has... good for him.. ... one thing is for certain, in 25 years from now, no one is going to remember who Aaron Brooks was, and his name wil most certainly NOT be preceded by "New Orleans Saints Legend", as Archie is referred to not only by Saints homers, but national broadcasters as well...