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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Thanks Whodi, I was waiting for you to chime in....
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11-13-2005, 10:26 PM | #42 |
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OK read them and weep Chermaine you are probably the worst case of denial I have ever seen in my life only next to Saint Whoodi who knows that the stats tell the truth for Brooks.
I will be your Huckleberry read them and weep fellows. P.S. I will be happy to rattle your cages if the truth hurts we all need a dose of the truth don't get offended or shoot the messenger if you are living in the past. C'mon fellows this is not the dark ages you can't tell a half truth to your favor in the information age thank God for the internet. Are you going to try to burn books next. Cmon fellows right here in black and white read it and weep. Note these stats do not include 2005 season Credits and courtesy to New Orleans Saints.com TOTAL NET PASSING YARDS (includes sack yards lost) Career 21,734 Archie Manning, 1971-75,77-82 (3328 att.-1848 comp.) 16,274 Aaron Brooks, 2000-04 (2340 att.-1323 comp.) 14,630 Bobby Hebert, 1985-89,91-92 (2055 att.-1202 comp.) 10,622 Jim Everett, 1994-96 (1571 att.-958 comp.) 7,490 Billy Kilmer, 1967-70 (1798 att.-592 comp.) Season 3,970 Jim Everett, 1995 (567 att.- 345 comp.) 3,855 Jim Everett, 1994 (540 att.- 346 comp.) 3,832 Aaron Brooks, 2001 (558 att.-312 comp.) 3,810 Aaron Brooks, 2004 (542 att.-349 comp.) 3,716 Archie Manning, 1980 (509 att.-309 comp.) Game 441 Aaron Brooks vs. Denver, 12/3/00 (30-48) 377 Archie Manning at San Francisco, 12/7/80 (24-38) 377 Aaron Brooks vs. Denver, 11/21/04 (34-60) 376 Jim Everett vs. Washington, 9/11/94 (31-46) 370 Jim Everett vs. Atlanta, 9/17/95 (29-43) Opponent 454 Jim Everett vs. L.A. Rams, 11/26/89 (29-51) 425 Daunte Culpepper vs. Minnesota, 10/17/04 (26-37) 420 Warren Moon at Minnesota, 11/6/94 (33-57) 397 Bill Kenney vs. Kansas City, 9/8/85 (22-34) 394 Jake Plummer at Arizona, 12/20/98 (32-44) MOST 250-YARD PASSING GAMES Career 28 Aaron Brooks, 2000-04 20 Archie Manning, 1971-75,77-82 18 Bobby Hebert, 1985-89,91-92 18 Jim Everett, 1994-96 5 Billy Kilmer, 1967-70 5 Dave Wilson, 1981,83-88 Season 8 Archie Manning, 1980 8 Jim Everett, 1994 7 Jim Everett, 1995 7 Aaron Brooks, 2001 7 Aaron Brooks, 2002 7 Aaron Brooks, 2003 7 Aaron Brooks, 2004 PASS ATTEMPTS Career 3,335 Archie Manning, 1971-75,77-82 (1,849 comp.) 2,341 Aaron Brooks, 2000-04 (1,323 comp.) 2,055 Bobby Hebert, 1985-89,91-92 (1,202 comp.) 1,571 Jim Everett, 1994-96 (958 comp.) 1,116 Billy Kilmer, 1967-70 (592 comp.) Season 567 Jim Everett, 1995 (345 comp.) 558 Aaron Brooks, 2001 (312 comp.) 542 Aaron Brooks, 2004 (309 comp.) 540 Jim Everett, 1994 (346 comp.) 528 Aaron Brooks, 2002 (283 comp.) Game 60 Aaron Brooks vs. Denver, 11/21/04 (34 comp.) 55 Jim Everett at San Francisco, 9/25/94 (31 comp.) 54 Aaron Brooks at N.Y. Giants, 9/30/01 (28 comp.) 53 Archie Manning at Green Bay, 9/10/78 (33 comp.) 52 Archie Manning vs. New England, 12/10/72 (24 comp.) 52 Archie Manning vs. San Francisco, 11/23/75 (25 comp.) Opponent 59 Steve Grogan at New England, 11/12/89 (27 comp.) 57 Warren Moon at Minnesota, 11/6/94 (33 comp.) PASS COMPLETIONS Career 1,849 Archie Manning, 1971-75,77-82 (3335 att.) 1,323 Aaron Brooks, 2000-04 (2340 att.) 1,202 Bobby Hebert, 1985-89,91-92 (2055 att.) 958 Jim Everett, 1994-96 (1571 att.) 592 Billy Kilmer, 1967-70 (1116 att.) Season 346 Jim Everett, 1994 (540 att.) 345 Jim Everett, 1995 (567 att.) 312 Aaron Brooks, 2001 (558 att.) 309 Archie Manning, 1980 (509 att.) 309 Aaron Brooks, 2004 (542 att.) Game 34 Aaron Brooks vs. Denver, 11/21/04 (60 att.) 33 Archie Manning at Green Bay, 9/10/78 (53 att.) 33 Jeff Blake at San Diego, 9/10/00 (46 att.) 31 Bobby Hebert vs. San Francisco, 10/8/89 (49 att.) 31 Jim Everett vs. Washington, 9/11/94 (46 att.) 31 Jim Everett at San Francisco, 9/25/94 (55 att.) 31 Jim Everett at Atlanta, 12/10/95 (47 att.) Opponent 33 Warren Moon at Minnesota, 11/6/94 (57 att.) 32 Jake Plummer at Arizona, 12/20/98 (44 att.) 32 Marc Bulger vs. St. Louis, 9/26/04 (49 att.) 31 Jim Everett at L.A. Rams, 12/9/90 (50 att.) 29 Brett Favre vs. Green Bay, 9/15/02 (44 att.) 29 Jeff Kemp at San Francisco, 9/21/86 (44 att.) 29 Jim Everett vs. L.A. Rams, 11/26/89 (51 att.) 29 Jeff George vs. Atlanta, 11/13/94 (49 att.) 29 Bernie Kosar vs. Miami, 10/15/95 (42 att.) 29 Elvis Grbac at San Francisco, 10/29/95 (42 att.) 29 Kurt Warner at St. Louis, 10/28/01 (47 att.) MOST CONSECUTIVE COMPLETIONS 15 Archie Manning, 10/14 & 10/21/79 Opponent 18 Don Majkowski at Green Bay, 9/17/89 COMPLETION PERCENTAGE Career (minimum 500 att.) 61.0 Jim Everett, 1994-96 (1,571 att.-958 comp.) 58.5 Bobby Hebert, 1985-89,91-92 (2,055 att.-1,202 comp.) 57.2 Ken Stabler, 1982-84 (500 att.-326 comp.) 56.5 Aaron Brooks, 2000-04 (2,340 att.-1,323 comp.) 55.4 Archie Manning, 1971-75,77-82 (3,335 att.-1,849 comp.) Season (minimum 100 att.) 64.1 Jim Everett, 1994 (540 att.-346 comp.) 62.9 Bobby Hebert, 1989 (353 att.-222 comp.) 61.9 Ken Stabler, 1982 (189 att.-117 comp.) 61.8 Archie Manning, 1978 (471 att.-291 comp.) 60.9 Jeff Blake, 2000 (302 att.-184 comp.) Game 90.9 Mike Buck at Pittsburgh, 10/17/93 (11-10) 87.0 Bobby Hebert vs. Denver, 11/20/88 (23-20) 86.4 Aaron Brooks vs. Indianapolis, 11/18/01 (22-19) 85.2 Jim Everett at Denver, 12/24/94 (27-23) 84.2 Bobby Hebert vs. Dallas, 9/10/89 (19-16) Opponent 90.9 Scott Hunter at Atlanta 10/31/76 (11-10) 90.5 Lynn Dickey vs. Green Bay, 12/13/81 (21-19) TOUCHDOWN PASSES Career 115 Archie Manning, 1971-75,77-82 107 Aaron Brooks, 2000-04 85 Bobby Hebert, 1985-89, 91-92 60 Jim Everett, 1994-95 47 Billy Kilmer, 1967-70 Season 27 Aaron Brooks, 2002 26 Jim Everett, 1995 26 Aaron Brooks, 2001 24 Aaron Brooks, 2003 23 Archie Manning, 1980 Game 6 Billy Kilmer at St. Louis, 11/2/69 5 Aaron Brooks vs. N.Y. Giants, 12/14/03 4 Bobby Hebert vs. San Francisco, 9/4/88 4 Jim Everett vs. Miami, 10/15/95 Opponent 6 Charley Johnson at St. Louis, 11/2/69 6 Peyton Manning vs. Indianapolis, 9/28/03 PASSER RATING Career (minimum 500 att.) 81.5 Aaron Brooks, 2000-04 (1323-2340, 16,274 yds., 107 TD, 67 INT) 81.1 Jim Everett, 1994-96 (958-1571, 10,622 yds., 60 TD, 48 INT) 79.1 Bobby Hebert, 1985-89,91-92 (1202-2055, 14,630 yds., 85 TD, 75 INT) 72.0 Steve Walsh, 1990-93 (336-620, 3,879 yds., 25 TD, 22 INT) 68.6 Archie Manning, 1971-75,77-82 (1,849-3,335, 21,734 yds., 115 TD, 147 INT) Season (minimum 100 att.) 92.0 John Fourcade, 1989 (61-107, 930 yds., 7 TD, 4 INT) 88.8 Aaron Brooks, 2003 (306-518, 3,546 yds., 24 TD, 8 INT) 87.0 Jim Everett, 1995 (345-567, 3970 yds., 26 TD, 14 INT) 85.7 Aaron Brooks, 2000 (113-194, 1514 yds., 9 TD, 6 INT) 84.9 Jim Everett, 1994 (346-540, 3855 yds., 22 TD, 18 INT) Game (minimum 10 att.) 158.3 Mike Buck at Pittsburgh, 10/17/93 (10-11, 164 yds., 2 TD, 0 INT) 155.8 Jim Everett at Denver, 12/24/94 (23-27, 343 yds., 3 TD, 0 INT) 148.2 Jeff Blake vs. San Francisco, 11/5/00 (21-27, 288 yds., 3 TD, 0 INT) 148.2 Aaron Brooks at Atlanta, 10/19/03 (23-30, 352 yds., 3 TD, 0 INT) 144.1 Aaron Brooks vs. Indianapolis, 11/18/01 (19-22, 249 yds., 2 TD, 0 INT) PASSES INTERCEPTED Career 156 Archie Manning, 1971-75,77-82 75 Bobby Hebert, 1985-89,91-92 67 Aaron Brooks, 2000-04 62 Billy Kilmer, 1967-70 55 Dave Wilson, 1981,83-88 Season 22 Aaron Brooks, 2001 21 Archie Manning, 1972 21 Aaron Brooks, 2004 20 Archie Manning, 1975 20 Archie Manning, 1979 20 Archie Manning, 1980 Game 5 Archie Manning vs. Atlanta, 9/16/73 5 Archie Manning vs. L.A. Rams, 10/7/79 Opponent 5 Randy Wright vs. Green Bay, 9/14/86 5 Scott Campbell at Atlanta, 11/1/87 MOST TIMES SACKED Career 337 Archie Manning, 1971-75,77-82 176 Aaron Brooks, 2000-04 119 Bobby Hebert, 1985-89,91-92 98 Dave Wilson, 1981,83-88 85 Billy Kilmer, 1967-70 Season 50 Aaron Brooks, 2001 49 Archie Manning, 1975 43 Archie Manning, 1972 41 Archie Manning, 1980 41 Aaron Brooks, 2004 40 Archie Manning, 1971 Game 9 Dave Wilson at San Francisco, 11/13/83 9 Dave Wilson at L.A. Rams, 11/3/85 9 Wade Wilson at Cleveland, 12/5/93 Opponent 8 Steve Beuerlein at Carolina, 11/12/00 8 Chris Weinke vs. Carolina, 12/2/01 7 Wade Wilson at Minnesota, 12/21/86 7 Steve Beuerlein vs. Carolina, 9/12/99 |
11-13-2005, 10:42 PM | #44 |
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Originally Posted by CheramieIII
Apparently not. Let this one ride cher. It's not going anywhere.
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11-13-2005, 10:45 PM | #45 |
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You read them, I posted the entire stats from New Orleans.com I read this a long time ago.
This is not new to me I knew this all along. I can't believe that you would call for proof in a category that is clearly not in your favor. You did not do your homework. I will read it for you. It basically says Brooks is now better, and he is younger and he can accomplish more. While he may eventually catch Archie in the negative categories, he has passed him and is passing him in the positive categories. It is o.k. this one you could not win. It is what the title of this post is all about. |
11-13-2005, 10:46 PM | #46 |
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Originally Posted by saintswhodi
Agreed. Some of us just disagree. But we're all Saints fans so, next topic.
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