Vince gets a 6 on the Wonderlic?

spkb25 · 03-05-2006, 06:13 PM

did you watch the aggies game goldrush. he was **** in that game. one game may noit make him **** but one game doesn't make him great either.

jergensl · 03-05-2006, 10:34 PM

i agree spkb, but i will take it further...mcneal looked like the better qb in that game. some team will be very happy when they draft him in day 2.

Tobias-Reiper · 03-06-2006, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

LOL....

Why does it have to be so polarized on these topics??? Either VY is going to the Hall of Fame on first ballot or he'll be a bum on the streets in 4 years???

The Wonderlic is just one evaluation that is used to gauge a player's future expectations. His low score is actually a positive for teams willing to trade up.

... and Dan Quayle is getting acceptance...

.. the Wonderlic measures how fast you think, and if you are a QB in the NFL, you need to think very fast under pressure.. sure he can take off running, but in the NFL everyone is as fast as Young, and they hit much harder thsn in college too. So, while he may not be a "bum on the streets in 4 years", he sure as hell ain't going to be a SB MVP...his physical ability will only take him so far ... well let me rephrase that: his running ability will only take him so far... he's not accurate throwing the ball...

BJSim · 03-06-2006, 08:21 AM

The negative press from this story just balances out the over-hyped positive press from the Championship game. Now teams will look at him without the rose-colored (sorry for the pun) glasses they had been using. It'll level him out on some teams boards. Now on his pro-day he's going to have to actually prove he can QB.

hagan714 · 03-06-2006, 08:25 AM

He will be gone by the 7 pick in round one anyways. Why should he care. he will be an overnight millionare. I can not wait till he takes off to run and gets hammered by the LB's in the nfl. He will learn to slide quickly. That's what a low wonderlick score gets you.

FanNJ · 03-06-2006, 03:57 PM

he's not accurate throwing the ball

Ahh What was his Completion Persentage?? I do believe he is quite accurate. Not that I would want him...But I will give the man some credit where it is due.

saintswhodi · 03-06-2006, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by FanNJ

he's not accurate throwing the ball

Ahh What was his Completion Persentage?? I do believe he is quite accurate. Not that I would want him...But I will give the man some credit where it is due.

What credit? They ran a pop warner offense for him. ANYONE's completion percentage would be high the way they took most of his reads away. He was in a shotgun, and even after that is was 1 read, 2 read, run. He should have completed 100% of his passes in that gimmick offense. It catered to his abilities wonderfully, but let's not get hung up on his completion percentage as a judge of his ability to play QB.

LivnaLieTimay · 03-06-2006, 04:50 PM

Anyone who watched the championship game saw that he didn't complete a pass over 15 yards and because of the gimmick offense they ran he had wide open recievers on every pass play. What I saw was those recievers having to adjust and make very good catches on easy throws to bail him out. You give any qb recievers that wide open and they're going to have a high completion percentage. And after that Texas A&M game I saw him with his head down on the sideline after they secured the game because he had a bad game and realized he threw away the heisman. He's got additude problems, he's as a dumb as a brick and I don't trust him to win any games with his arm. The guy has no common sense either, he showed up to the white house in a sweat suit! In the right system and with the proper coaching he could become a decent qb, but I'm glad this test score opened up peoples eyes and balanced out his rose bowl performance.

GoldRush26 · 03-06-2006, 06:45 PM

LOL. MY only point was please get off of that Wonderlic BS. It's an exam and it has its purpose, just like the SAT and the ACT. Scoring well or poorly does not necessarily predict future results. There are QBs that get great scores every year. Didn't Alex Smith get a 40 last year??? How did he do? Drew Henson got a 42. How has he been doing?? David Maas got a 43 in 1999. WHO????? Randall Cunningham, Jim Kelly, Terry Bradshaw and Dan Marino all got 15s. To make any kind of judgement on it other than the fact that VY did poorly is asinine.

I personally want the Saints to pick Leinart, and they will. I'm not gonna just slam every other QB that's not Leinart because of that though. And using this overrated test to slam VY is weak. It doesn't have to be "QB A sucks" or "QB A rules".

Tobias-Reiper · 03-06-2006, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

LOL. MY only point was please get off of that Wonderlic BS. It's an exam and it has its purpose, just like the SAT and the ACT.

..uh... if you score 100 in your SAT's I guarantee you, you don't get into college unless you go play QB in Texas...

We all know what the Wonderlic is and what's supposed to measure... it's not a make or break thing, obviously, as there are exceptions to every rule... but let me ask you...
...if your life depended on it, which doctor would you like to perform emergency brain surgery on you? The doctor who scored 6 on the Wonderlic, or the doctor who scored 43???

03-05-2006, 06:13 PM	#51
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	RE: Re: RE: http://blackandgold.net/site/index.php?name=PNph did you watch the aggies game goldrush. he was ** in that game. one game may noit make him ** but one game doesn't make him great either.

03-05-2006, 10:34 PM	#52
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	RE: Re: RE: http://blackandgold.net/site/index.php?name=PNph i agree spkb, but i will take it further...mcneal looked like the better qb in that game. some team will be very happy when they draft him in day 2.

03-06-2006, 07:34 AM	#53
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: RE: Re: RE: http://blackandgold.net/site/index.php?name= Originally Posted by GoldRush26 LOL.... Why does it have to be so polarized on these topics??? Either VY is going to the Hall of Fame on first ballot or he'll be a bum on the streets in 4 years??? The Wonderlic is just one evaluation that is used to gauge a player's future expectations. His low score is actually a positive for teams willing to trade up. ... and Dan Quayle is getting acceptance... .. the Wonderlic measures how fast you think, and if you are a QB in the NFL, you need to think very fast under pressure.. sure he can take off running, but in the NFL everyone is as fast as Young, and they hit much harder thsn in college too. So, while he may not be a "bum on the streets in 4 years", he sure as hell ain't going to be a SB MVP...his physical ability will only take him so far ... well let me rephrase that: his running ability will only take him so far... he's not accurate throwing the ball...
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03-06-2006, 08:21 AM	#54
BJSim 500+ posts Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 577	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: http://blackandgold.net/site/index.php?n The negative press from this story just balances out the over-hyped positive press from the Championship game. Now teams will look at him without the rose-colored (sorry for the pun) glasses they had been using. It'll level him out on some teams boards. Now on his pro-day he's going to have to actually prove he can QB.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: http://blackandgold.net/site/index.php?n He will be gone by the 7 pick in round one anyways. Why should he care. he will be an overnight millionare. I can not wait till he takes off to run and gets hammered by the LB's in the nfl. He will learn to slide quickly. That's what a low wonderlick score gets you.

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FanNJ 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 324	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: http://blackandgold.net/site/index.php?n he's not accurate throwing the ball Ahh What was his Completion Persentage?? I do believe he is quite accurate. Not that I would want him...But I will give the man some credit where it is due.
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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: http://blackandgold.net/site/index.p Originally Posted by FanNJ he's not accurate throwing the ball Ahh What was his Completion Persentage?? I do believe he is quite accurate. Not that I would want him...But I will give the man some credit where it is due. What credit? They ran a pop warner offense for him. ANYONE's completion percentage would be high the way they took most of his reads away. He was in a shotgun, and even after that is was 1 read, 2 read, run. He should have completed 100% of his passes in that gimmick offense. It catered to his abilities wonderfully, but let's not get hung up on his completion percentage as a judge of his ability to play QB.

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LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,498	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: http://blackandgold.net/site/ind Anyone who watched the championship game saw that he didn't complete a pass over 15 yards and because of the gimmick offense they ran he had wide open recievers on every pass play. What I saw was those recievers having to adjust and make very good catches on easy throws to bail him out. You give any qb recievers that wide open and they're going to have a high completion percentage. And after that Texas A&M game I saw him with his head down on the sideline after they secured the game because he had a bad game and realized he threw away the heisman. He's got additude problems, he's as a dumb as a brick and I don't trust him to win any games with his arm. The guy has no common sense either, he showed up to the white house in a sweat suit! In the right system and with the proper coaching he could become a decent qb, but I'm glad this test score opened up peoples eyes and balanced out his rose bowl performance.

03-06-2006, 06:45 PM	#59
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: http://blackandgold.net/site/ind LOL. MY only point was please get off of that Wonderlic BS. It's an exam and it has its purpose, just like the SAT and the ACT. Scoring well or poorly does not necessarily predict future results. There are QBs that get great scores every year. Didn't Alex Smith get a 40 last year??? How did he do? Drew Henson got a 42. How has he been doing?? David Maas got a 43 in 1999. WHO????? Randall Cunningham, Jim Kelly, Terry Bradshaw and Dan Marino all got 15s. To make any kind of judgement on it other than the fact that VY did poorly is asinine. I personally want the Saints to pick Leinart, and they will. I'm not gonna just slam every other QB that's not Leinart because of that though. And using this overrated test to slam VY is weak. It doesn't have to be "QB A sucks" or "QB A rules".
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03-06-2006, 07:02 PM	#60
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: http://blackandgold.net/site Originally Posted by GoldRush26 LOL. MY only point was please get off of that Wonderlic BS. It's an exam and it has its purpose, just like the SAT and the ACT. ..uh... if you score 100 in your SAT's I guarantee you, you don't get into college unless you go play QB in Texas... We all know what the Wonderlic is and what's supposed to measure... it's not a make or break thing, obviously, as there are exceptions to every rule... but let me ask you... ...if your life depended on it, which doctor would you like to perform emergency brain surgery on you? The doctor who scored 6 on the Wonderlic, or the doctor who scored 43???