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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by papz As long as it will take to develop Vince Young... probably another 2 years IMO. I like Amac don't get me wrong... but I think we're all looking for a cinderella type story with him. It's ...
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04-01-2006, 04:06 PM | #21 |
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Originally Posted by papz
papz, just that one yr sitting on the bench with amac as well as chase, quite a valuable lesson, would'nt you say? i'd go with anyone who sat on the bench for a yr over a rookie, unless they show they can light it up from the start........
as far as cinderella story, happens all the time...............smitty |
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04-01-2006, 04:10 PM | #22 |
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You got a point there. I can see it now... Amac throws a 70 yard bomb down field to Chase Lyman.
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04-01-2006, 04:22 PM | #23 |
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Originally Posted by papz
would it matter if bree's threw it? lol smitty
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04-01-2006, 04:30 PM | #24 |
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Well I was just trying to keep that Amac as the future franchise quarterback dream alive for some people... I'd definately take that Brees to Lyman. :P
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04-01-2006, 04:44 PM | #25 |
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Eric Winston, OT, Miami Jonathan Scott, OT, Texas Marcus McNeil, OT, Auburn These are the guys who will probably land in the first, early second rounds. I would say D'Brick has some very good company and that's why I've said from day one we need a leader on defense and Hawk is the man, period! |
04-01-2006, 05:01 PM | #26 |
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Originally Posted by papz
Whoa calm down there son. I didn't "imply" anything other than the fact that i've seen the kid play in rebuttal to your claim that no one on here has seen him play but you, the Cutler expert.
And besides, all of this is speculation. Do I truly know who is the best player in the draft. No...and neither do you. However I do know that I've seen NO analyst or draft expert say that Leinart is the best player in the draft. I think BPA in the draft signifies the most surefire pick in the draft, and Bush and D'Brick have been the ones that have recieved those praises. If you think Leinart is the best player in the draft, more power to you. There's no way I would personally take him over one of the best talents of the past 10 years in Bush and the best rated tackle to come out since Walter Jones. "Franchise" QBs come along every year it seems like. Next year Brady Quinn will be the guy we "can't pass up". |
04-01-2006, 05:09 PM | #27 |
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Originally Posted by CheramieIII
Missing my main point, I wasn't challenging anyone to name the other tackles in the first round. I was challenging anyone to name ONE tackle in this draft that is close to being as dominant as D'Brick. He had tremendous preseason hype and totally has lived up to it. His only knock is that he needs to gain a little more weight. There is a huge dropoff from D'Brick to Justice. And does anyone realize if this draft didn't have Reggie Bush that D'Brick would be the #1 overall pick without a doubt? And there is talk that he actually STILL may go #1. We can possibly get him at #4....kind of a steal. |
04-01-2006, 05:25 PM | #28 |
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If Leinart is there at 2 and Bush is off the board I'd take him. I don't know about Brees' shoulder and I think Leinart is going to be a great player. If we can trade down, then thats what I'm in favor of, but if we cannot trade down I like Leinart. I also would like to say that in many other drafts in years past Leinart would be the top choice hands down. I think between Bush, Leinart, Brick and maybe Young, you have 4 guys who many consider to be #1 picks. Probably all 4 would have gone #1 last year.
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04-01-2006, 05:47 PM | #29 |
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Originally Posted by GoldRush26
Son? What the? Look genius... before you open your mouth, learn how to read. Scroll back page one and read it over. Then you would realize that I was talking about Ferguson. How do you feel now? I would have thought the "ask the VA guys" would have dropped a hint.
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Read above post... didn't I just say that?
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I didn't say he was the best player in the draft... Bush is in my opinion. So who are you debating with?
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One's that received the most praises. You know what that sounds like... a guy who reads a bunch of articles and follows all the hype but in actuality, knows absolutely nothing about the player. Ryan Leaf, Heath Shuler, Lawerence Phillips, Mike Williams (the tackle), Eugene Chung, etc. received a lot of praises... and where are they now? Robert Gallery was suppose to be the next superstar LT, he's not even playing that position anymore. Give me a break. You say "franchise" QBs come along ever year, so does "franchise left tackles".
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See at worst, I see us finishing 8-8 next year. Have a little faith buddy.
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Originally Posted by GoldRush26
Preseason hype is exactly what it was and during the collegiate season, he did not live up to it. How are you so sure that there's such a HUGE dropoff from D'Brick to Justice? Both are good and judging from last year's performance, Justice was the more consistent of the two. Brick might be more talented and athletic, but Justice is solid in his own right.
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