Is anybody still hoping we still draft Lienart?

foreverfan · 03-30-2006, 10:39 AM

I would love to draft a lot of other players, but how do you pass on a guy that might be your franchise QB for years to come. We've done this before with Loomis, keeping 2 high priced players at RB and DE.

Are we so sure that Brees will be able to recover fully from his injury? If we can't trade the pick, will the front office draft the best player available? Lienart might be hard to resist.

Trading down and passing on Lienart may be the stupidest thing we will ever do, and that includes keeping Brooks for so long.

zachsaints52 · 03-30-2006, 10:41 AM

I think we get Brick. I am confident Brees will last us until someone else comes along the way in about 5 to 7 years.

FanNJ · 03-30-2006, 05:35 PM

Actually the buzz around all the QB's has quited down. I'd rather have Cutler I think Leinart is actually the one that will drop in the draft come Draft day. His pro day is comming up soon so I'm sure more rumors will be a flying

papz · 03-30-2006, 06:11 PM

If we don't trade down and Leinart is still on the board... take him.

CheramieIII · 03-30-2006, 07:36 PM

Someone will want Leinart so I don't think it is a question of do we trade down or not, it's only a matter of who and what do we get for the pick. Payton has stated we will sign a QB and I believe they will get an average backup, which is a helluva lot better than Bouwoman.

I cannot believe that so many would still make that pick. We won't invest another 60 million on a QB that would more than likely sit the bench.

BiggPoppaFro4 · 03-30-2006, 10:00 PM

I hope we get Brick....if there is any justice in being a Saints fan, we will

Brees is a good QB, I though SD was stupid to draft Rivers anyway. The draft when they got LT and Brees is still one of the best grifts I ever saw

In the end I actually think we will drop down to 4 and get Brick (jets get a QB) or 5 and get Hawk (GB gets Mario), but not 100% sure yet

papz · 03-30-2006, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

I cannot believe that so many would still make that pick. We won't invest another 60 million on a QB that would more than likely sit the bench.

Kinda like when the Bengals already had Kitna who was performing well yet they still drafted Palmer and let him ride the pine for a year eh? 8) Definately will not be surprised if it happened and it's something I'm rooting for. Like so many have said before, though some have changed their stance on the matter, you cannot pass up on a franchise type quarterback. Take the best available player if you do not trade down and that player's name is Matt Leinart. In all seriousness... am I the only one that thinks Brees will only be here for one year?

BiggPoppaFro4 · 03-30-2006, 11:09 PM

The best availible player is Ferguson..and hopefully we get him...the only other great (note that I said great) 1st rounder we've made was Willie Roaf. The year we went to the playoffs, and won, we had him on one side, Turley on the other. Both SB teams this year had dominant O-lines. It makes perfect sense....which is why we may still take mario, dammit

Brees' contract is scary due to that 12 mill. bonusafter the first year, but it has a clause that allow it to be renegotiated over the life of the deal. so it isn't that bad. Lienart is the shiny new, expensive car you want with that big bonus you just got. Brees is the proven VW that is 4 years old, runs like a champ and isn't gonna stop for another 10 years...

The one you know you should get because it's a sure value bet.

papz · 03-30-2006, 11:24 PM

Let me ask the people on this board a question...

Out of all the years he's been playing college football... how much of hiim have you actually seen? Please, do not include the combine workouts and the Senior Bowl... that's only a short and limited sample on the guy. I can bet you most of you haven't seen much of him besides that. By no means am I saying he wouldn't be a good pickup, but if you've seen what I've seen of him the past couple of years, you would definately say he's a little over rated... and I've seen a lot of him. I think the "potential" word has made people more enamored with him than his performance on the field. I'm pretty sure the VA guys on this board will admit he was far from dominant last season.

foreverfan · 03-31-2006, 12:49 AM

IMPORTANT QUESTION: Does anybody think it is strange that we have not signed a backup QB in FA? Could we trade down and pick up Cutler or Young?

This is from the sporting news war room, "It also appears that there is some long-term thinking going on in New Orleans. Recent rumblings are that the team might be leaning toward selecting quarterback Matt Leinart. With Drew Brees coming off shoulder surgery, the Saints are concerned about putting too much of a load on him in training camp. The team would give Leinart plenty of reps in camp and preseason games, then let him learn for a year while watching from the sideline. That tells us the Saints are willing to be patient and develop a franchise QB. "

03-30-2006, 10:39 AM	#1
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Is anybody still hoping we still draft Lienart? I would love to draft a lot of other players, but how do you pass on a guy that might be your franchise QB for years to come. We've done this before with Loomis, keeping 2 high priced players at RB and DE. Are we so sure that Brees will be able to recover fully from his injury? If we can't trade the pick, will the front office draft the best player available? Lienart might be hard to resist. Trading down and passing on Lienart may be the stupidest thing we will ever do, and that includes keeping Brooks for so long.
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03-30-2006, 10:41 AM	#2
zachsaints52 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Abingdon, Virginia Posts: 522	RE: Is anybody still hoping we still draft Lienart? I think we get Brick. I am confident Brees will last us until someone else comes along the way in about 5 to 7 years.

03-30-2006, 05:35 PM	#3
FanNJ 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 324	RE: Is anybody still hoping we still draft Lienart? Actually the buzz around all the QB's has quited down. I'd rather have Cutler I think Leinart is actually the one that will drop in the draft come Draft day. His pro day is comming up soon so I'm sure more rumors will be a flying
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03-30-2006, 06:11 PM	#4
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	RE: Is anybody still hoping we still draft Lienart? If we don't trade down and Leinart is still on the board... take him.

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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	RE: Is anybody still hoping we still draft Lienart? Someone will want Leinart so I don't think it is a question of do we trade down or not, it's only a matter of who and what do we get for the pick. Payton has stated we will sign a QB and I believe they will get an average backup, which is a helluva lot better than Bouwoman. I cannot believe that so many would still make that pick. We won't invest another 60 million on a QB that would more than likely sit the bench.

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BiggPoppaFro4 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 231	I hope we get Brick....if there is any justice in being a Saints fan, we will Brees is a good QB, I though SD was stupid to draft Rivers anyway. The draft when they got LT and Brees is still one of the best grifts I ever saw In the end I actually think we will drop down to 4 and get Brick (jets get a QB) or 5 and get Hawk (GB gets Mario), but not 100% sure yet
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03-30-2006, 11:02 PM	#7
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: RE: Is anybody still hoping we still draft Lienart? Originally Posted by CheramieIII I cannot believe that so many would still make that pick. We won't invest another 60 million on a QB that would more than likely sit the bench. Kinda like when the Bengals already had Kitna who was performing well yet they still drafted Palmer and let him ride the pine for a year eh? 8) Definately will not be surprised if it happened and it's something I'm rooting for. Like so many have said before, though some have changed their stance on the matter, you cannot pass up on a franchise type quarterback. Take the best available player if you do not trade down and that player's name is Matt Leinart. In all seriousness... am I the only one that thinks Brees will only be here for one year?

03-30-2006, 11:09 PM	#8
BiggPoppaFro4 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 231	The best availible player is Ferguson..and hopefully we get him...the only other great (note that I said great) 1st rounder we've made was Willie Roaf. The year we went to the playoffs, and won, we had him on one side, Turley on the other. Both SB teams this year had dominant O-lines. It makes perfect sense....which is why we may still take mario, dammit Brees' contract is scary due to that 12 mill. bonusafter the first year, but it has a clause that allow it to be renegotiated over the life of the deal. so it isn't that bad. Lienart is the shiny new, expensive car you want with that big bonus you just got. Brees is the proven VW that is 4 years old, runs like a champ and isn't gonna stop for another 10 years... The one you know you should get because it's a sure value bet.
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03-30-2006, 11:24 PM	#9
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Let me ask the people on this board a question... Out of all the years he's been playing college football... how much of hiim have you actually seen? Please, do not include the combine workouts and the Senior Bowl... that's only a short and limited sample on the guy. I can bet you most of you haven't seen much of him besides that. By no means am I saying he wouldn't be a good pickup, but if you've seen what I've seen of him the past couple of years, you would definately say he's a little over rated... and I've seen a lot of him. I think the "potential" word has made people more enamored with him than his performance on the field. I'm pretty sure the VA guys on this board will admit he was far from dominant last season.

03-31-2006, 12:49 AM	#10
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	IMPORTANT QUESTION: Does anybody think it is strange that we have not signed a backup QB in FA? Could we trade down and pick up Cutler or Young? This is from the sporting news war room, "It also appears that there is some long-term thinking going on in New Orleans. Recent rumblings are that the team might be leaning toward selecting quarterback Matt Leinart. With Drew Brees coming off shoulder surgery, the Saints are concerned about putting too much of a load on him in training camp. The team would give Leinart plenty of reps in camp and preseason games, then let him learn for a year while watching from the sideline. That tells us the Saints are willing to be patient and develop a franchise QB. "
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