Our draft sucked... but what's new?
 

Bush is a great player, but we did not fill a need by selecting him. Not only is Deuce eating up crap room as we speak, now Bush will be doing the same. How much money are we planning to invest at one position? I'm not disappointed to see Bush in the Black and Gold, but we could have done so much more by trading down.

Roman Harper? Who the heck is this guy and what the hell is our infatuation with acquiring safeties this offseason? Does Bullocks or Dwight Smith ring a bell? How about Scott, Stoutmire, and Gleason? Didn't we also try to get this Smith guy from Dallas? Sure we got a solid center in return, but we could have easily filled that need in the 4th round. Hell, didn't we sign some guy from New York to play center?

Look at the guys we passed on... Jimmy Williams, Winston Justice, Ashton Youboty, D'Qwell Jackson, etc. If we would have selected any of these guys in the second round, I would not be as angry as I am with our draft. Bush and anyone one of these guys would have gotten a thumbs up from me for our first day selections. Bush and Harper simply does not cut it for me... you are not going to find your Roy Williams in this guy Payton and Loomis... what are you two dimwads thinking?!

I know why I had to work today... the higher power wanted me to miss this draft so I wouldn't have a pull a hole into my TV. I really do... I mean really really do hope I'm wrong about this because I don't know if I'll be able to live with another Loomis draft. Please Loomis, make me look stupid.

RE: Our draft sucked... but what
 

bro the only thing i can even come up with is the fact that smith is playing cornernect year and some of these gusy will play in ncikel and dime formations. outside of that it makes no sense to me. no sense at all

Our offense got more exciting, but I don't see where we helped our team a whole lot more. The Harper pick killed me. I oculda lived with Bush, but the players we passed on with Harper? Ugh.

You do realize that in the second round they also got the starting center from Cleveland, a 25yr old former 21st overall pick... not too shabby, I'd say... so, in 2 rounds, the Saints got:

Reggie Bush - Next Gayle Sayers :)
Jeff Faine - Starting Center, need position, 1st pick overall in 2002
Roman Harper - S

As for the safety posistion, Bellamy is 33, and nothing to write home about, Bullocks was picked by Haslett, we don't know much about him because we haven't seen him play, really; maybe Payton doesn't like him?

Our draft sucked? I didn't know it was over already...and we only got two picks??? Dang. You're right...simply horrible. :roll:

whodi it makes no sense
we have added about 80 in the of season

The Harper pick just fuels the fire that Smith will either be traded or shifted back to corner. Otherwise, there is no reason the saints had to bring in 3 new safeties this year.

The way he's been trying to purge our roster Tobias... it doesn't seem he likes anyone.

In reference to GoldRush... ROFL... look at the last 5 years of us drafting on the second day homie and how many of them are still here or even turned into a decent pro. That's what I thought. I'm sure we'll land some hidden gem in the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th rounds. I mean after all, we are the Saints. :roll:

Our special teams got more exciting you mean sw... it's sure going to be fun watching him return kicks and punts. Unless we have something really creative planned for the guy, I don't see him getting more than 10 carries a game unless Deuce gets hurt again. That's a pretty damn big insurance investment for Deuce.

Look I'll be the first people to go order Bush's jersey, but it did not make sense of us to select him. The Texans were smart to realize what's the point in drafting another running back if you already have a solid guy under contract who's getting make a load of money. Like I said above... I really hope Loomis makes me look like a fool. I'll be the first one to admit it if Harper pans out.

i just like to add more of the same position iover and over again

Who says Dulymus is staying? :twisted:
Let's face it, in the past 2 years, Deuce's been hurt and out of shape.

No papzy, i'm with you all the way. I'm suppsoed to be excited about Bush, when we have Deuce, excited about Faine, when he was dumped for Bentley, and excited about taking prob the 5th best safety on the board at the time, in the second round. Uh, no. Average draft at best, only cause Bush brings up the grade so high. Not too many good moves. Sorry TR, I am not on board. Can't get too excited for paying 50 something mil to a guy who will get about 10-15 touches a game, a center who CLEVELAND didn't want, and a reach for an average safety.

Yep...you're right. Let's just trade all of our late picks since they always suck. We've never had good players drafted in the late rounds which means we never will.

What? Didn't you hear? Deuce is untouchable.

whodi hate to call youout buyt bentley wasn't coming back and he said that. he3 said he wanted to go home to cleveland. tobias you are very right on deuce. the guy is lazy and has started to suck the lats two year. he doesn't do the things he did when ricky was heded to miami and the year after. since then he has sucked

In reference to GoldRush...

Only some genius would suggest something like that... sorry I'm not that smart. No one said don't try, but even if we get a decent guy on the 2nd day, it still won't make me feel any better with what we did the first day. I glad you'll still be this optimistic when we draft Jimbo Bob Johnson from Alaska U. who's the best dog sledder up north has ever seen. Get realistic buddy.

Who said Deuce is untouchable? You're reading skills have issues.

You guys sure do know how to put a damper on a great day for the Saints. Sure we blew it with the Harper pick. That was obviously a dumb pick, however you try to spin it. However, I was dissapointed when Mangold went off the board but then we got a center in Faine who is young and has shown if he stays healthy he can play. It's frustrating we could have filled another need on our oline, dline or lb but overall I'm happy to have Reggie and I think our team is definately better.

not only did we get the best RB in the draft... we also got the best KR and PR and also the best WR

Nope...we suck man. Nothing from here on out will make up for what we've done so far.

Yea because if one guy can make you're draft... power to you. I have higher expectations.

love the bush pick but the secidn roun dpick makes all of about 0 sense

Well, look at the bright side guys......at least we can say that we got Reggie Bush. Maybe the FO will start looking at LB's and DT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If they don't......I guess they really believe in Fatty McGee (SULLY).

Still, we need to be patient and hope Coach P knows what the FLOCK he is doing.

Papz, we didn't get one guy. Faine will start for us at center, which was a huge hole for us. Bush is a great pick and will make our offense drastically better.

How'd you find my name, Papz? So you've heard of me. I'm still certain that I'll go undrafted.

Hey, I'm calling the Saints FO tomorrow. I'm a 5'10 200 pound guy that hasn't played football since high school. Maybe they will draft me and I can start at friggin SAFETY!!!!

He means that Reggie Bush is the only person of any talent that we picked up or will pick up this year, since history has shown that there is slim to no chance that any of our remaining picks have any chance of panning out.

Freakin sucked so far it is so freakin gay !!! omg freakin Saftey why saints why even if dwight is moving to corner no need Belammy Bullock s gleason stoudamire WTF !!!!!!!! im so pissed screw this draft !!!!

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The Bush pick was great - I really think the football gods shined for us on that one. The Faine trade was a good move, I really smiled when I saw the helmet change from NO to CLE.

But the Harper pick was simply unacceptable.

LOL iceshack... don't worry buddy we'll pick you up in the 4th. :wink: I don't know about you jnormand... being 5'10 and a flabby 200 while running that 5.85 40 I saw you run on the street corner the other day was pretty impressive. Man if we had a 3rd round pick, I'd snatch you up.

You know what... maybe I'm just letting that 2nd round pick get to me too much. Bush was a great pick... Faine was a solid pick. I was interested in trading for him during the offseason and I like he's here now. But like LOE said, that pick was simply unacceptable which ruined it for me. Why settle for less when you know it could have been stupid good for us today?

Papz, I think that is how everyone if feeling. What were we thinking with the Harper pick. Glad to see you are coming around to the Bush pick and Faine is a starter and a good pick. I guess it's how you look at it. I'm trying to look at the positive (Bush and Faine) and ignore the negative (Harper). It is frustruating to think that we could have got Bush and addressed 2 needs in the 2nd round but the Reggie pick makes it easier.

OldiesDJ posted this, but I will too.

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/cviewplay...scoutingreport

Oh, Youbouty and Hodge lasted til the third round.

I wonder if we will ever hear the FO try to justify this pick?

You know what Timay... maybe in a day or two when I'm not fuming from missing the draft and the selection of Harper, I'll start being a little upbeat about it all and try to forget we selected whatshisface. But until then... it's my rant time! :twisted:

I don't think there was ever a knock on Harper as a player. I bet the guy will do just fine in the NFL. No question on his potential.

No, it's more a question of what pick makes more sense for the Saints.

To me, a possible (or likely) stretch at a safety didn't make sense. I mean, it was the #43 pick... #43..... that's a pretty damn high pick. The team likely could have gotten more value at that high a pick.

Was Harper projected to go that high? Worse, was safety a need?

This is what I'm *****ing about. As I suspect others are.

It's still a good day - Bush, Faine. What an uncharacteristically good day. It's almost weird to have a draft this good. It's only - it could've been better.

LOE

The Problem I have with all of this negativity is that the players that all of the Negative Nancies are claiming we should have picked were either drafted before our pick came up, or fell to the third round.

RB wasn't a need either but... I agree with you though, HARPER??? I guess I'll stay tuned to see the next RB and Saftey the Saints are picking next.

EXACTLY how I feel LOE in a much less *****ier toned down way... is that a bad word? Can I say that? :shock:

Just pulled this from some draft pick analysis. Just a positive thought for people to think about.

Also, I like the Reggie pick, and I really like the Faine pick up. And to go on what LOE is saying, Harper seems like a good player, but like a good player who should be taken in the 3rd or 4th round. Just bad timing. And a bad position selection.

Well, I'm not gonna knock a draft class until the draft is finished. Was the 2nd round pick surprising YES, was it a reach, probably, but I like the moves the FO has been makin and I feel they have a plan and know what they are doing. I'm not going to bash the kid until we've seen him play. He may turn out to be a quality starter and we are raving about him for years to come and calling that a genius pick., or it could be a bust. Time will tell. I am excited to see who is added to the fold tomorrow and am SUper excited for the season to start. The falcons may have a DVD offense, but the saints now have a B2B backfield.

O by the way, thanks a lot LOE, my nightmares finally stopped about a week ago, and now you come back. My eyes started bleeding when I saw your avatar.