bush sitting out this yr?

ssmitty · 07-22-2006, 07:40 AM

Saints | Bush contemplating not signing?
Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:33:34 -0700

Jason Cole, of Yahoo Sports, reports there has been some talk of New Orleans Saints rookie RB Reggie Bush not signing in time for training camp. Now, a league source said Bush is toying with the idea of sitting out the entire season and going back in the NFL Draft in 2007 if he doesn't get his price. "No player has ever had the kind of leverage that Reggie Bush has right now," the source said. "The Saints made it clear what they were willing to do before and now we'll see if they're going to get there." Two sources said that talks between the Saints and agent Joel Segal have been nearly non-existent. Wednesday, July 19, Mike Ornstein, who is Bush's marketing agent, told the Clarion-Ledger of Jackson, Miss., that he didn't think Bush would be signed in time for camp. Ornstein is not allowed to negotiate contracts, but he is acutely aware of all of Bush's business matters. Bush supposedly has more than $5 million in the bank from multiple endorsement deals Ornstein has negotiated since Bush left the University of Southern California. Bush could probably sit out 2006 and still be a high pick next year.

ssmitty · 07-22-2006, 07:45 AM

maybe the texans were afraid of something like this...................

ssmitty · 07-22-2006, 07:52 AM

the more i think about it, the scarier it is...............
just imagine anyone having the leverage to renegotiate their contract every year if they have a good year..............i'd have to say don't let the door hit ya if this is gonna be the case............

gandhi1007 · 07-22-2006, 09:48 AM

Looks like another Benson "Bend 'Em Over". Draft Bush......Sell out season tickets.....Screw Reggie, we've already sold out the Dome.

BoudinSandwich · 07-22-2006, 10:02 AM

Benson initially wanted to pay Bush whatever he wanted, so I don't see Bush NOT being signed. Maybe they're still trying to clear out some room (releasing Dwight Smith, etc.) to sign him.

However, if Benson does the unthinkable and doesn't get Bush signed, he should release his ownership of the team and never step foot in this state again - unless he wants to float down the Mississippi River in a body bag with a torso that's holier than the Pope.

jdiggy · 07-22-2006, 10:40 AM

LOOMIS!!!!

YOU BETTER NOT SCREW THIS UP!

PAY REGGIE #1 MONEY

IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU ON GAME DAYS.

lynwood · 07-22-2006, 12:13 PM

I know I might have an unpopular view on this but if Regggie hold out for #1 money it's the fault of the NFL. The NFL has allowed picks to sit out becuse they didn't want to go to a team that picked them and every year more and more money is going to draft picks. Reggie should get 2nd pick money and if he sits out becuse he refuses, he should be banned from the NFL. He gets more than last years #2 but less than this years #1. That's the way it works.

Now if Benson is trying to short change Bush then Benson should bee ran out of town without taking the team with him. But the cold hard fact is worth it or not Bush was drafted 2nd so that is 2nd pick money.

Needless to say the article could just be speculation and a wishful dreaming by the writer. If Bush sits out and New orleans gets the number 1 pick next year I'd draft him again just out of spite. But who really knows what the heck is going on. Personally I think it would be great to have him but we will do okay without him.

LSUJeremy · 07-22-2006, 12:43 PM

It's just negotiating.

Let's not freak out.

NoBandwagonrs · 07-22-2006, 02:51 PM

reggie isnt dumb enuff to sit out the whole year because if im not mistaken the team that takes him has to give the saints compensation and teams dont want to do that so they wont take him. and teams that say he's worth the compensation wont take him because they will be afraid that he will do the same thing to them as he did to the saints. so in the end he will end up with no where near as much money because he will be taken probably middle to late first because of the reasons mentioned.

dwiley21 · 07-22-2006, 05:58 PM

all is well, this is all just the typical negotiation ploys agents pull to try and squeeze more money out at the last minute. Notice Reggie isn't saying anything this time around its his endorsement agent who can't even negotiate the contract. It seems like the FO is just working backwards in their signings by signing the lesser guys first and finising with the biggie in bush. I may be wrong, but I do believe they have a certain allotment to sign the picks with, so it makes sense to sign everyone else and reggie gets whats left right? I still firmly believe he will sign at the 11th hour and be in camp on time. He knows he's valuable and needs to learn, and Payton knows he needs to be in to get the reps.

07-22-2006, 07:40 AM	#1
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	bush sitting out this yr? Saints \| Bush contemplating not signing? Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:33:34 -0700 Jason Cole, of Yahoo Sports, reports there has been some talk of New Orleans Saints rookie RB Reggie Bush not signing in time for training camp. Now, a league source said Bush is toying with the idea of sitting out the entire season and going back in the NFL Draft in 2007 if he doesn't get his price. "No player has ever had the kind of leverage that Reggie Bush has right now," the source said. "The Saints made it clear what they were willing to do before and now we'll see if they're going to get there." Two sources said that talks between the Saints and agent Joel Segal have been nearly non-existent. Wednesday, July 19, Mike Ornstein, who is Bush's marketing agent, told the Clarion-Ledger of Jackson, Miss., that he didn't think Bush would be signed in time for camp. Ornstein is not allowed to negotiate contracts, but he is acutely aware of all of Bush's business matters. Bush supposedly has more than $5 million in the bank from multiple endorsement deals Ornstein has negotiated since Bush left the University of Southern California. Bush could probably sit out 2006 and still be a high pick next year.
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07-22-2006, 07:52 AM	#3
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	the more i think about it, the scarier it is............... just imagine anyone having the leverage to renegotiate their contract every year if they have a good year..............i'd have to say don't let the door hit ya if this is gonna be the case............
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07-22-2006, 12:43 PM	#8
LSUJeremy 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 472	It's just negotiating. Let's not freak out.
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NoBandwagonrs Registered Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 58	reggie isnt dumb enuff to sit out the whole year because if im not mistaken the team that takes him has to give the saints compensation and teams dont want to do that so they wont take him. and teams that say he's worth the compensation wont take him because they will be afraid that he will do the same thing to them as he did to the saints. so in the end he will end up with no where near as much money because he will be taken probably middle to late first because of the reasons mentioned.
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07-22-2006, 05:58 PM	#10
dwiley21 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 216	all is well, this is all just the typical negotiation ploys agents pull to try and squeeze more money out at the last minute. Notice Reggie isn't saying anything this time around its his endorsement agent who can't even negotiate the contract. It seems like the FO is just working backwards in their signings by signing the lesser guys first and finising with the biggie in bush. I may be wrong, but I do believe they have a certain allotment to sign the picks with, so it makes sense to sign everyone else and reggie gets whats left right? I still firmly believe he will sign at the 11th hour and be in camp on time. He knows he's valuable and needs to learn, and Payton knows he needs to be in to get the reps.
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07-22-2006, 07:45 AM	#2
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	maybe the texans were afraid of something like this...................
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07-22-2006, 09:48 AM	#4
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Looks like another Benson "Bend 'Em Over". Draft Bush......Sell out season tickets.....Screw Reggie, we've already sold out the Dome.

07-22-2006, 10:02 AM	#5
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	Benson initially wanted to pay Bush whatever he wanted, so I don't see Bush NOT being signed. Maybe they're still trying to clear out some room (releasing Dwight Smith, etc.) to sign him. However, if Benson does the unthinkable and doesn't get Bush signed, he should release his ownership of the team and never step foot in this state again - unless he wants to float down the Mississippi River in a body bag with a torso that's holier than the Pope.

07-22-2006, 10:40 AM	#6
jdiggy 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ol' Metry Posts: 239	LOOMIS!!!! YOU BETTER NOT SCREW THIS UP! PAY REGGIE #1 MONEY IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU ON GAME DAYS.

07-22-2006, 12:13 PM	#7
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	I know I might have an unpopular view on this but if Regggie hold out for #1 money it's the fault of the NFL. The NFL has allowed picks to sit out becuse they didn't want to go to a team that picked them and every year more and more money is going to draft picks. Reggie should get 2nd pick money and if he sits out becuse he refuses, he should be banned from the NFL. He gets more than last years #2 but less than this years #1. That's the way it works. Now if Benson is trying to short change Bush then Benson should bee ran out of town without taking the team with him. But the cold hard fact is worth it or not Bush was drafted 2nd so that is 2nd pick money. Needless to say the article could just be speculation and a wishful dreaming by the writer. If Bush sits out and New orleans gets the number 1 pick next year I'd draft him again just out of spite. But who really knows what the heck is going on. Personally I think it would be great to have him but we will do okay without him.