Brooks has same poor attitude AGAIN!

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-12-2003, 04:40 PM

FWtex,

I misread that. But since your such an excellent evaluater of talent, could you tell me another qb that has only started 2 years that has put up the numbers Brooks has?

FWtex · 06-12-2003, 05:10 PM

Billy, your first reply was that since it was not Brooks comments you would not offer your opinion of my original post. Now that it has been clarified that the comments were indeed from Brooks I still have not seen your opinion of the original post. You have thrown out several replies to replies but none have been an original opinion.

What numbers of brooks are you referring to? While you are looking that up I don\'t put all my faith in a players PAST stats but rather look at an overall performance and overall approach and attitude. What good are individual stats if the team does not win? I believe this is one of Brooks biggest problems - he likes to read his own press clippings too much.

Here is a question to think about. Of the Starting NFL qb\'s who would you rank below Brooks when it comes to leadership, heart and desire?

WhoDat · 06-12-2003, 05:34 PM

Yes Billy, his name is Tom Brady and he\'s already got a Super Bowl ring. Michael Vick is more explosive, so if you\'re going to have a quarterback that doesn\'t understand his role you should at least have the best athlete in the game. Chad Pennington hasn\'t even started a full year and already he\'s shown that he is a better quarterback than Brooks... (look at the numbers that matter - i.e. efficiency, completion percentage, TD/INT ratio... and oh yeah, little stats like Wins and Losses or Playoff Appearances).

Is that enough, or do you really want me to take the time to research this and show you how wrong you are? By the way, Brooks has started in roughly 38 games now... is that right? I\'m going off the top of my head. That\'s closing in on being half way through his third season. That\'s plenty of time.

C\'mon Saintsfan, take the gloves off. It\'s been too long!!

FWtex · 06-12-2003, 05:34 PM

I have some stats for you. These are for Brooks 2002 season agains all QB\'s Played.

Completion percentage - ranks 49th, Yds - ranks 9th, Yds/ game - 14th, TD\'s - 3rd, Int - 12th, Sacks - 5th, sack yards - 7th, rating - 31st.

I don\'t see anything to brag about. Brooks had quite a few dropped balls and threw alot of passes which may skew the completion percentage but his receivers yards after completion also are the main reson he ranks high in yards and TD\'s. His sack rank? and people were laughing at David Carr?

NellyFord · 06-12-2003, 06:23 PM

For all the Brooks backers that like to throw his stats at you, what about the most important stat of all, Wins/Losses. I\'d rather him throw 5 TD\'s all year and those 5 helped us win the SB then him throw 60 TD\'s and not make the playoff\'s. Let\'s not forget his game management and attitude are some of the big reasons we didnt get a chance to whip TB in the playoffs. I dont necessarily put all the blame on him, it seemed like the coaches didnt really get their game plans together unless it was a team they werent overlooking. AB really needs to get his head straight and puts some wins up with those numbers and then at this time next year we will be talking about what we can do to repeat as Champs!!!

P.S. Deuce made AB alot better than he really was, without a rb we\'re in trouble, DEUCE IS DA DADDY!!!

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-12-2003, 06:38 PM

TO ALL BROOKS BASHERS:

Listen up!!!!!!!!! I know you think Aaron should have taken us to the Super Bowl. I know you think he should be perfect. I know you think you know what your talking about......Ya don\'t!!!!! The same thing was said about Elway, Steve Young, Terry Bradshaw, Trent Dilfer(your favorite son), and just about every other QB that has ever played the game. I\'ll say this again...Rome was not built in a day. Give him some time.

NellyFord · 06-12-2003, 06:43 PM

Rome wasnt built in a day but they never destroyed it while they was building it either, Brooks makes improvements then takes his 6 step drop to make up for it. Brooks has had a couple of years, we have a team that can definitely win it all, we need to quit givin him a rebuilding year. He needs to put up or shut up this season. Thats all I\'m gonna say bout that........

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-12-2003, 07:08 PM

NellyFord,

Your one of the people that would have cut Terry Bradshaw and went with his backup, because I can promise you that Bradshaw was almost run out of Pittsburg his first 4 years. How many superbowl rings does he have??

billybignuts · 06-12-2003, 08:29 PM

\"Brian Griese\" does that name ring a bell? Didn\'t the Broncos give him a huge contract? Oh yeah they cut him this year because he wasnt the team leader he should have been. kinda scary

FWtex · 06-13-2003, 01:25 AM

Billy, you have been suckered in like i knew you would be. Terry bradshaw is a fantastic example of exactly what I am talking about. Terry came into the league and he stunckk it up horribly. However Terry had leadership and desire to be a winner. He worked his butt off and earned the respect of his teammates. He was an instrumental part of turning the steelers into a winner with his heart and his desire to win.

Can you say Brooks has the same mentality and desire of bradshaw?

Damn I knew this was coming! thank you!

06-12-2003, 04:40 PM	#11
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Brooks has same poor attitude AGAIN! FWtex, I misread that. But since your such an excellent evaluater of talent, could you tell me another qb that has only started 2 years that has put up the numbers Brooks has?
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06-12-2003, 05:10 PM	#12
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370	Brooks has same poor attitude AGAIN! Billy, your first reply was that since it was not Brooks comments you would not offer your opinion of my original post. Now that it has been clarified that the comments were indeed from Brooks I still have not seen your opinion of the original post. You have thrown out several replies to replies but none have been an original opinion. What numbers of brooks are you referring to? While you are looking that up I don\'t put all my faith in a players PAST stats but rather look at an overall performance and overall approach and attitude. What good are individual stats if the team does not win? I believe this is one of Brooks biggest problems - he likes to read his own press clippings too much. Here is a question to think about. Of the Starting NFL qb\'s who would you rank below Brooks when it comes to leadership, heart and desire?
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370

06-12-2003, 05:34 PM	#13
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Brooks has same poor attitude AGAIN! Yes Billy, his name is Tom Brady and he\'s already got a Super Bowl ring. Michael Vick is more explosive, so if you\'re going to have a quarterback that doesn\'t understand his role you should at least have the best athlete in the game. Chad Pennington hasn\'t even started a full year and already he\'s shown that he is a better quarterback than Brooks... (look at the numbers that matter - i.e. efficiency, completion percentage, TD/INT ratio... and oh yeah, little stats like Wins and Losses or Playoff Appearances). Is that enough, or do you really want me to take the time to research this and show you how wrong you are? By the way, Brooks has started in roughly 38 games now... is that right? I\'m going off the top of my head. That\'s closing in on being half way through his third season. That\'s plenty of time. C\'mon Saintsfan, take the gloves off. It\'s been too long!!
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

06-12-2003, 05:34 PM	#14
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370	Brooks has same poor attitude AGAIN! I have some stats for you. These are for Brooks 2002 season agains all QB\'s Played. Completion percentage - ranks 49th, Yds - ranks 9th, Yds/ game - 14th, TD\'s - 3rd, Int - 12th, Sacks - 5th, sack yards - 7th, rating - 31st. I don\'t see anything to brag about. Brooks had quite a few dropped balls and threw alot of passes which may skew the completion percentage but his receivers yards after completion also are the main reson he ranks high in yards and TD\'s. His sack rank? and people were laughing at David Carr?
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370

06-12-2003, 06:23 PM	#15
NellyFord Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Monkey Island Insane Asylum Posts: 58	Brooks has same poor attitude AGAIN! For all the Brooks backers that like to throw his stats at you, what about the most important stat of all, Wins/Losses. I\'d rather him throw 5 TD\'s all year and those 5 helped us win the SB then him throw 60 TD\'s and not make the playoff\'s. Let\'s not forget his game management and attitude are some of the big reasons we didnt get a chance to whip TB in the playoffs. I dont necessarily put all the blame on him, it seemed like the coaches didnt really get their game plans together unless it was a team they werent overlooking. AB really needs to get his head straight and puts some wins up with those numbers and then at this time next year we will be talking about what we can do to repeat as Champs!!! P.S. Deuce made AB alot better than he really was, without a rb we\'re in trouble, DEUCE IS DA DADDY!!!
	It\'s Just An Opinion, Unless Spoken By Me!! Nelly Ford

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06-12-2003, 06:38 PM	#16
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Brooks has same poor attitude AGAIN! TO ALL BROOKS BASHERS: Listen up!!!!!!!!! I know you think Aaron should have taken us to the Super Bowl. I know you think he should be perfect. I know you think you know what your talking about......Ya don\'t!!!!! The same thing was said about Elway, Steve Young, Terry Bradshaw, Trent Dilfer(your favorite son), and just about every other QB that has ever played the game. I\'ll say this again...Rome was not built in a day. Give him some time.
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209

06-12-2003, 06:43 PM	#17
NellyFord Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Monkey Island Insane Asylum Posts: 58	Brooks has same poor attitude AGAIN! Rome wasnt built in a day but they never destroyed it while they was building it either, Brooks makes improvements then takes his 6 step drop to make up for it. Brooks has had a couple of years, we have a team that can definitely win it all, we need to quit givin him a rebuilding year. He needs to put up or shut up this season. Thats all I\'m gonna say bout that........

06-12-2003, 07:08 PM	#18
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Brooks has same poor attitude AGAIN! NellyFord, Your one of the people that would have cut Terry Bradshaw and went with his backup, because I can promise you that Bradshaw was almost run out of Pittsburg his first 4 years. How many superbowl rings does he have??
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06-12-2003, 08:29 PM	#19
billybignuts 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 157	Brooks has same poor attitude AGAIN! \"Brian Griese\" does that name ring a bell? Didn\'t the Broncos give him a huge contract? Oh yeah they cut him this year because he wasnt the team leader he should have been. kinda scary
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06-13-2003, 01:25 AM	#20
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370	Brooks has same poor attitude AGAIN! Billy, you have been suckered in like i knew you would be. Terry bradshaw is a fantastic example of exactly what I am talking about. Terry came into the league and he stunckk it up horribly. However Terry had leadership and desire to be a winner. He worked his butt off and earned the respect of his teammates. He was an instrumental part of turning the steelers into a winner with his heart and his desire to win. Can you say Brooks has the same mentality and desire of bradshaw? Damn I knew this was coming! thank you!
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370