Fred Thomas..

pakowitz · 12-30-2006, 12:27 PM

If Laron Landry slips to us we need to just pick him up, he's a stud. But I really would like to see a DT or CB, or a really good LB.

laron will most likely be a top 10 pick

Freddy gets no help over the top a lot of times so he's going to look bad more often than not, especially when the Safeties are backing up the run. When Hollis gets back, the run defense will be much stouter up the middle and there will be more support for the edges.

i agree with the help over the top but he still gets beat easily on double moves... he tries to play bump coverage and i dont think he is fast enough against some of the guys he is going up against....

Actually, Thomas has played better as the year has progressed. He was burned on that play last week, but his coverage the rest of the day was damn solid. However, I do think that we need to draft a young cornerback. We've got to look at the cap situation long-term. With the money currently going to Brees, Horn, Duece, and Reggie, I don't think cap-wise we can afford to sign Clements or Samuel. It'll kill us in the future.

the cap is expected to go up by 10-11 mil next year and we should have plenty of cap space to sign anyone we want... we should be about 10 million under the cap right now... and with the increase... we should be golden

Breez · 12-30-2006, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

I doubt if they will even draft a safety or any defensive back in 1st rd. It will most likely be a DT, wr, or a lb

Something else to think about while we're talking about Depth... Devery Has had big plays this year(the end around against Falcs., Big Grab against Dallas.. ect..) but has had some big drops.. (Redskins, ECT.) I think hes a good WR that needs some help with his hands but we should really consider another WR in the off season.. Not to say we should get rid of Devery cuz he is very fast.. but another reciever wouldn't be bad in the later rounds or a semi-vet from the FA.. what do you guys think?

pakowitz · 12-30-2006, 02:03 PM

devery is a great 3rd reciever... dont think he has the hands to be a 2nd but he is a great 3rd... not many 3rd cornerbacks have his speed... very dangerous for us

LongTimeFan · 12-30-2006, 02:07 PM

IMO you play the guys who got you to this point, (playoffs) Fred being one of those guys.
Next year might be different, I think we look to replace him but right now isn't the time to sit him, he's in sync with the defense.

bulldog1865 · 12-31-2006, 01:41 AM

to get off the subject a bit, if thomas does so happen to leave, should duece switch to number 22?... i think he should, thomas has been there ever since he was drafted, and that was the number he wanted, but i think it should be up to duece, but personally i think i would like it, and i'm sure benson wouldn't mind the jersey sales...

Breez · 01-01-2007, 01:33 PM

Well.. that was the Devery we all know and love... big play... then another good one(gets hurt) comes back on third and about 5 quick slant gets hit and makes the big grab... not to much to be upset about this week... other then martins two "gimme" Touch's he looked okay.. and our 2nd string D was killin... im very excited and hope all my fellow SAINTS are too!i!

saintsrule · 01-02-2007, 05:17 AM

He seems to be doing good.

12-30-2006, 12:27 PM	#11
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	If Laron Landry slips to us we need to just pick him up, he's a stud. But I really would like to see a DT or CB, or a really good LB. laron will most likely be a top 10 pick Freddy gets no help over the top a lot of times so he's going to look bad more often than not, especially when the Safeties are backing up the run. When Hollis gets back, the run defense will be much stouter up the middle and there will be more support for the edges. i agree with the help over the top but he still gets beat easily on double moves... he tries to play bump coverage and i dont think he is fast enough against some of the guys he is going up against.... Actually, Thomas has played better as the year has progressed. He was burned on that play last week, but his coverage the rest of the day was damn solid. However, I do think that we need to draft a young cornerback. We've got to look at the cap situation long-term. With the money currently going to Brees, Horn, Duece, and Reggie, I don't think cap-wise we can afford to sign Clements or Samuel. It'll kill us in the future. the cap is expected to go up by 10-11 mil next year and we should have plenty of cap space to sign anyone we want... we should be about 10 million under the cap right now... and with the increase... we should be golden

12-30-2006, 01:04 PM	#12
Breez Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California Posts: 26	Originally Posted by nola_swammi I doubt if they will even draft a safety or any defensive back in 1st rd. It will most likely be a DT, wr, or a lb Something else to think about while we're talking about Depth... Devery Has had big plays this year(the end around against Falcs., Big Grab against Dallas.. ect..) but has had some big drops.. (Redskins, ECT.) I think hes a good WR that needs some help with his hands but we should really consider another WR in the off season.. Not to say we should get rid of Devery cuz he is very fast.. but another reciever wouldn't be bad in the later rounds or a semi-vet from the FA.. what do you guys think?

01-02-2007, 05:17 AM	#17
saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657	He seems to be doing good.
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12-30-2006, 02:03 PM	#13
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	devery is a great 3rd reciever... dont think he has the hands to be a 2nd but he is a great 3rd... not many 3rd cornerbacks have his speed... very dangerous for us

12-30-2006, 02:07 PM	#14
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	IMO you play the guys who got you to this point, (playoffs) Fred being one of those guys. Next year might be different, I think we look to replace him but right now isn't the time to sit him, he's in sync with the defense.

12-31-2006, 01:41 AM	#15
bulldog1865 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 29	to get off the subject a bit, if thomas does so happen to leave, should duece switch to number 22?... i think he should, thomas has been there ever since he was drafted, and that was the number he wanted, but i think it should be up to duece, but personally i think i would like it, and i'm sure benson wouldn't mind the jersey sales...

01-01-2007, 01:33 PM	#16
Breez Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California Posts: 26	Well.. that was the Devery we all know and love... big play... then another good one(gets hurt) comes back on third and about 5 quick slant gets hit and makes the big grab... not to much to be upset about this week... other then martins two "gimme" Touch's he looked okay.. and our 2nd string D was killin... im very excited and hope all my fellow SAINTS are too!i!