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SaintsJam 02-15-2007 08:44 PM

Thanks for getting that pick for me Hagan. It worked out good. I lost my #1 choice to the Jags, but Tank will be great.

hagan714 02-15-2007 09:01 PM

thanks for the pm of choices

hagan714 02-15-2007 09:06 PM

Round 1
1 Oakland Raiders - Joe Thomas, OT, 6-8, 315, 5.05, Wisconsin
2 Houston - Jamarcus Russell, QB 6.6, 260, 4.75, LSU
3 Cleveland Browns - Calvin Johnson WR 6 - 4, 235, 4.45, GT
4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Alan Branch DT 6 - 6, 325, 5.00, Michigan
5 Arizona Cardinals - Gaines Adams DE 6-5, 260, 4.59, Clemson
6 Washington Redskins - Brady Quinn QB 6 - 4, 231, 4.70, Notre Dame
7 Minnesota Vikings - Adrian Peterson 6 - 1.5, 215, 4.45, Oklahoma
8 Detroit Lions - Levi Brown OT 6 - 5.3, 323, 5.25, Penn St.
9 Miami Dolphins - Ted Ginn Jr. WR 6 - 0, 175, 4.39, Ohio State
10. Atlanta Falcons - LaRon Landry S 6 - 1.5, 204, 4.45 LSU
11 San Francisco - 49ers Dwayne Jarrett WR 6 - 5, 210, 4.5 USC
12 Buffalo Bills - Jamaal Anderson DE, 6 - 6, 280, 4.80, Arkansas
13 St. Louis Rams - Patrick Willis, LB, 6 - 1, 240, 4.60, Ole Miss
14 Carolina Panthers - Lawrence Timmons OLB 6 - 2.5, 230, 4.49, Florida St
15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Darrelle Revis, CB, 6 - 0, 200, 4.40 Pittsburgh
16 Green Bay Packers - Leon Hall, CB, 5'11", 193 lbs, 4.50, Michigan
17 Jacksonville Jaguars - Amobi Okoye, DT - 6 - 2, 287, 5.20, Louisville
18 Cincinnati Bengals - DeMarcus Tyler, DT, 6 - 2, 323, 5.10, NC State
19 Tennessee Titans - Dwayne Bowe Sr., WR, 6 - 2, 222, 4.55, LSU

hagan714 02-16-2007 10:24 AM

time is up when the next GM shows up and that will be AllSaints at #21 Denver Broncos
PM me, allsaints, and the selection will be made for PAK so you can pick.

CheramieIII 02-16-2007 04:33 PM

Remaining picks:

20 New York Giants 8-8 ..............pakowitz
21 Denver Broncos 9-7 ..............AllSaints
22 Dallas Cowboys 9-7 ..............hagan714
23 Kansas City Chiefs 9-7...........pakowitz
24 New England Patriots 9-7 .....SaintsJam
25 New York Jets 10-6................BlackandBlue
26 Philadelphia Eagles 10-6.......papz
27 New Orleans Saints 10-6 ...by committee
28 New England Patriots 12-4 ..mighty12
29 Baltimore Ravens 13-3..........hagan714
30 San Diego Chargers 14-2......faldhamen
31 Chicago Bears 13-3 ..............faldhamen
32 Indianapolis Colts 12-4 ........Euphoria

LET'S GET THIS PARTY STARTED!!!!

Boogro 02-16-2007 10:08 PM

I know I an not in the draft or anything, but it does interest me. Was there an explanation on the Packers pick, Hall?

Bobaganoosh 02-16-2007 10:20 PM

Why would the redskins draft Quinn when they invested so much into jason campbell?

hagan714 02-16-2007 10:20 PM

16 Green Bay Packers - Leon Hall, CB, 5'11", 193 lbs, 4.50, Michigan
The Packers have two guys over 30 starting at cornerback, and one of them isn’t happy with his contract. Not to mention, finishing near the bottom of the league, in pass defense. This would be a great start, to building a play off ready defense, considering, for the most part, the defensive side of the ball has been what's keeping them out of it.
Hall is physical enough to play with the big receivers, yet quick and able enough to cover the quick receivers. Excels in zone coverage, and is very good at man-to-man. He's a smart and very fluid athlete without a major hole in his game. Hall can come up and support the run well and is an excellent blizter. Being paired up with Walt Harris, should make the Packers, a more formidable defensive secondary.
saintpaul25

Bobaganoosh 02-16-2007 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714
16 Green Bay Packers - Leon Hall, CB, 5'11", 193 lbs, 4.50, Michigan
The Packers have two guys over 30 starting at cornerback, and one of them isn’t happy with his contract. Not to mention, finishing near the bottom of the league, in pass defense. This would be a great start, to building a play off ready defense, considering, for the most part, the defensive side of the ball has been what's keeping them out of it.
Hall is physical enough to play with the big receivers, yet quick and able enough to cover the quick receivers. Excels in zone coverage, and is very good at man-to-man. He's a smart and very fluid athlete without a major hole in his game. Hall can come up and support the run well and is an excellent blizter. Being paired up with Walt Harris, should make the Packers, a more formidable defensive secondary.
saintpaul25

i am assuming you mean Al Harris...not Walt Harris...and speaking of Al Harris, if he is the unhappy one you are referring to, he signed an extension a few days back. this pick is obviously made on the assumption they resign Ahman Green. they easily could go RB, DT, S, WR before going CB in this draft.

Boogro 02-16-2007 10:32 PM

I was just wondering, Woodson and Harris are suitable and if they sign a RB like Rhodes, I could see them going D. As of right now, Lynch would be a good pick up to get that running game going

SaintPauly 02-16-2007 11:08 PM

I did my research folks. Two out of the three mocks I confirmed with, agreed with me, on CB, being their pick. Not Hall, because they had him going way before the 16th pick, but a CB either way. Now, I did mean Al Harris, which I put in an immediate follow up post, and he didn't resign till after I made that pick, but I still would have made it, considering that Woodson, has not been the same player since leaving Oakland. I stand by my pick.

CheramieIII 02-17-2007 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh
Why would the redskins draft Quinn when they invested so much into jason campbell?

We traded Campbell to the Ravens after that pick for their second and fifth round picks this year.

hagan714 02-17-2007 08:01 AM

20 New York Giants 8-8 ..............pakowitz
21 Denver Broncos 9-7 ..............AllSaints
22 Dallas Cowboys 9-7 ..............hagan714
23 Kansas City Chiefs 9-7...........pakowitz
we are in pickle here. email notification "on" for your PM's, gang?

hagan714 02-17-2007 09:26 AM

20 New York Giants - Reggie Nelson S 6'1 193 Florida
Reggie Nelson is an attacking safety with big time playmaking ability. He flies around the football field and is aggressive in every facet of the game. Nelson is tough and plays bigger than his wiry frame indicates. He delivers big hits and isn’t afraid to lend help in support. Nelson’s biggest impact comes with his ability to make plays on the football. He has a nose for the ball, and really goes after the ball when it is in the air. He is a great athlete and shows the speed to run plays down and keep up down the field in coverage. The Gaints now have the play maker at S that they have not had for years.
pakowitz

hagan714 02-17-2007 09:29 AM

Allsaints is in the house. lets get it moving

hagan714 02-17-2007 10:40 AM

Allsaints has left the house and no responce to PM so here is the pick

21. Denver Broncos - Adam Carriker, DE, 6-6, 295, 4.88, Nebraska
Mike Shanahan is still trying to make his line of ex-Browns work, but it's just not happening. Having a liability like that up front puts undue pressure on what are very good linebacking and secondary corps. While the addition of Elvis Dumervil provided an unexpected boost in situational pass rushing, Denver needs a talented athlete to provide pressure every down.Carriker has an impressive combination of size, strength and agility which allows him to apply pressure to the quarterback, while taking on multiple blockers. He added more than 10 pounds of muscle to his 6-6 frame increasing his weight to 295 pounds. While adding the weight, Carriker improved his 10 and 40-yard dash times. His stature could allow Carriker to move inside to tackle on passing downs if needed. Has an incredible motor. Used Mobile and the Senior Bowl to show he isn't a one-dimensional or one-set (3-4) player. Denver needs to get younger along the edges and finding a large prospect like Carriker is a steal
Allsaints

hagan714 02-17-2007 10:42 AM

Papz is on the clock. I gave him the cowboys

hagan714 02-17-2007 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobaganoosh
Why would the redskins draft Quinn when they invested so much into jason campbell?

We traded Campbell to the Ravens after that pick for their second and fifth round picks this year.

Baltimore Ravens Trades thier #2 and #5 to Washington for Jason Campbell. Brady Quinn makes him available and Baltimore now has the backup for McNair to mentor. McNair will be 34 in 2007

faldhamen 02-18-2007 03:11 PM

we need to start making our picks.

hagan714 02-18-2007 04:12 PM

22 Dallas Cowboys - Michael Griffin, S, 5-11, 195, 4.48
Griffin is a prototypical NFL cover safety. He has excellent ball skills for the position and good recovery speed with good leaping ability, allowing him to make plays on the ball in deep coverage. Taking the correct path to the ball carrier, allows him to play faster than his timed speed and he is a solid, willing tackler. With above-average agility and acceleration for a free safety allows him the ability to cover slot receivers in man-to-man. Add to this is an excellent special teams player, showing the same quality of play at safety and combine that with fantastic timing and instincts, you have numerous blocked punts.
Hagan714-Papz

hagan714 02-18-2007 04:17 PM

dallas traded pick #54 and Terry Glenn for Oaklands #33 pick

faldhamen 02-18-2007 04:22 PM

Next...

23 Kansas City Chiefs 9-7...........pakowitz
24 New England Patriots 9-7 .....SaintsJam
25 New York Jets 10-6................BlackandBlue
26 Philadelphia Eagles 10-6.......papz
27 New Orleans Saints 10-6 ...by committee
28 New England Patriots 12-4 ..mighty12
29 Baltimore Ravens 13-3..........hagan714
30 San Diego Chargers 14-2......faldhamen
31 Chicago Bears 13-3 ..............faldhamen
32 Indianapolis Colts 12-4 ........Euphoria

hagan714 02-18-2007 04:23 PM

1 Oakland Raiders - Joe Thomas, OT, 6-8, 315, 5.05, Wisconsin
2 Houston - Jamarcus Russell, QB 6.6, 260, 4.75, LSU
3 Cleveland Browns - Calvin Johnson WR 6 - 4, 235, 4.45, GT
4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Alan Branch DT 6 - 6, 325, 5.00, Michigan
5 Arizona Cardinals - Gaines Adams DE 6-5, 260, 4.59, Clemson
6 Washington Redskins - Brady Quinn QB 6 - 4, 231, 4.70, Notre Dame
7 Minnesota Vikings - Adrian Peterson 6 - 1.5, 215, 4.45, Oklahoma
8 Detroit Lions - Levi Brown OT 6 - 5.3, 323, 5.25, Penn St.
9 Miami Dolphins - Ted Ginn Jr. WR 6 - 0, 175, 4.39, Ohio State
10. Atlanta Falcons - LaRon Landry S 6 - 1.5, 204, 4.45 LSU
11 San Francisco - 49ers Dwayne Jarrett WR 6 - 5, 210, 4.5 USC
12 Buffalo Bills - Jamaal Anderson DE, 6 - 6, 280, 4.80, Arkansas
13 St. Louis Rams - Patrick Willis, LB, 6 - 1, 240, 4.60, Ole Miss
14 Carolina Panthers - Lawrence Timmons OLB 6 - 2.5, 230, 4.49, Florida St
15. Pittsburgh Steelers - Darrelle Revis, CB, 6 - 0, 200, 4.40 Pittsburgh
16 Green Bay Packers - Leon Hall, CB, 5'11", 193 lbs, 4.50, Michigan
17 Jacksonville Jaguars - Amobi Okoye, DT - 6 - 2, 287, 5.20, Louisville
18 Cincinnati Bengals - DeMarcus Tyler, DT, 6 - 2, 323, 5.10, NC State
19 Tennessee Titans - Dwayne Bowe Sr., WR, 6 - 2, 222, 4.55, LSU
20 New York Giants - Reggie Nelson, S, 6 - 0, 200, 4.40, Florida
21. Denver Broncos - Adam Carriker, DE, 6-5, 295, 4.88, Nebraska
22 Dallas Cowboys - Michael Griffin, S, 5-11, 195, 4.48, Texas

Next up
23 Kansas City Chiefs
pakowitz

24 New England Patriots
mighty12

25 New York Jets
BlackandBlue

26 Philadelphia Eagles
redjem25

27 New Orleans Saints
by committee

hagan714 02-19-2007 05:45 AM

23 Kansas City Chiefs - Sidney Rice, WR, 6-3, 195, 4.55, S. Carolina
In my mind, Rice is one of the more underrated wide receivers, maybe even overall players, in the draft. You know that you're doing something right when a sophomore season of 72 catches and 10 touchdowns is considered a disappointment. Rice has ideal height and elite body control and ball skills. If he'd have been playing with a real quarterback last season he could have caught 100 passes.
Hagan714-pakowitz

papz you got baltimore

papz 02-19-2007 08:12 AM

Ok.

mighty12 02-19-2007 09:09 AM

24. New England Patriots Charles Johnson DE 6'2" 271 4.75

Johnson's potential is somewhat limited by his below-average height and pedestrian top-end speed. However, he is a powerful and quick defensive end with good toughness versus the run and a relentless approach as a pass rusher. Maybe a transition player DE/LB. He is a Bellicheck player with his raw talent and being undersized.

redjem25 02-19-2007 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faldhamen
Next...

23 Kansas City Chiefs 9-7...........pakowitz
24 New England Patriots 9-7 .....SaintsJam
25 New York Jets 10-6................BlackandBlue
26 Philadelphia Eagles 10-6.......papz
27 New Orleans Saints 10-6 ...by committee
28 New England Patriots 12-4 ..mighty12
29 Baltimore Ravens 13-3..........hagan714
30 San Diego Chargers 14-2......faldhamen
31 Chicago Bears 13-3 ..............faldhamen
32 Indianapolis Colts 12-4 ........Euphoria


I thought I had Philly????

hagan714 02-19-2007 09:54 AM

you do. Stick to my list ingore the others

hagan714 02-19-2007 09:58 AM

25 New York Jets
BlackandBlue

26 Philadelphia Eagles
redjem25

27 New Orleans Saints
by committee

28 New England Patriots
mighty12

29 Baltimore Ravens
papz

30 San Diego Chargers
faldhamen

31 Chicago Bears
faldhamen

32 Indianapolis Colts
Euphoria

hagan714 02-19-2007 06:10 PM

25 New York Jets - Anthony Spencer, DE/LB, 6-3, 262, 4.70, Purdue
Jonathan Abraham's pass rush hasn't been adequately replaced, and a third-down pass rusher would be a big addition. Spencer is a pass rush extraordinaire. Makes up ground in a hurry and always is near the ball. High motor and plays at 110%. At this point looks to be a 4-3 end, but will workout as a linebacker as well. 2006 Team MVP and All Big 10 selection, Spencer had his coming out party in 2006 wreaking havoc in backfields.
BlackandBlue

redjem25 02-20-2007 03:28 PM

With the 26th selection, The Eagles choose Troy Smith QB Ohio State. 6'1, 215. With McNabb's health and Garcia's availablity in question, Smith is an ideal choice for the Eagles. The Heisman trophy winner is unafraid, dangerous on the run and has an accurate, strong arm. If Troy Smith can prove to be a great pro quarterback, he's definately heir to the throne.

fhs623 02-20-2007 05:43 PM

the pseudo matt millen is scratching his head over the selection. I like Troy Smith as a mid to late 2nd rounder

redjem25 02-20-2007 05:53 PM

To be honest, Smith was my 3rd QB choice. Russell and Quinn were already taken, but he's solid. IMO better than the others remaining

CheramieIII 02-20-2007 07:24 PM

If you have both Garcia and McNabb why would ya? and if Garcia wants a new job then I wouldn't think this to be a bad move.

CheramieIII 02-20-2007 07:26 PM

If we don't sign a FA CB this is our guy:

Name: Aaron Ross
College: Texas Number: 31
Height: 6-1 Weight: 192
Position: CB Pos2: KR
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2007
40 Time: 4.46 40 Low: 4.42 40 High: 4.49

hagan714 02-20-2007 07:28 PM

I agree but man that was a reach. but I doubt he would have made through the second for them to pick him. or maybe he would. safer is better than sorry I guess.

papz 02-21-2007 08:12 AM

I'm not as high on Ross as so many people are... and I mean a lot. Every board I come across people are in love with him. I like Houston better and maybe perhaps Merriweather at corner. He showed in the Senior Bowl he can play the position well. I would rather us wait until the third and select the best available corner left... hopefully a Bennett or Weddle.

hagan714 02-21-2007 08:45 AM

Weddle i am having touches of man love with the kid. but we would have to reach in the second or move into the top of the 3rd to get him. CB/S/KR/holder. would love the pick. Even in the second if Jackson was gone.

redjem25 02-21-2007 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII
If you have both Garcia and McNabb why would ya? and if Garcia wants a new job then I wouldn't think this to be a bad move.

I REALLY don't think Garcia will be around.

papz 02-21-2007 08:55 AM

With the way corners are dropping Hagan, I think it's a possibility.


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