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hagan714 02-07-2007 07:59 PM

B&G Mock Draft 1
 
1 Oakland Raiders 2-14 ..............zachsaints52
2 Detroit Lions 3-13 ....................fhs623
3 Cleveland Browns^ 4-12..........SaintsJam
4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers^ 4-12..bulldog1865
5 Arizona Cardinals 5-11 ............TheDuce
6 Washington Redskins 5-11 .....CheramieIII
7 Minnesota Vikings 6-10 ...........neugey
8 Houston Texans 6-10 ..............saintsfan1313
9 Miami Dolphins 6-10 ................CheramieIII
10 Atlanta Falcons 7-9 ................filaphill
11 San Francisco 49ers 7-9.........BlackandBlue
12 Buffalo Bills 7-9 ......................papz
13 St. Louis Rams 8-8
14 Carolina Panthers 8-8.............fhs623
15 Pittsburgh Steelers 8-8...........D24pick
16 Green Bay Packers 8-8 ..........saintpaul25
17 Jacksonville Jaguars 8-8.........flacajun
18 Cincinnati Bengals 8-8 ...........SaintsJam
19 Tennessee Titans 8-8
20 New York Giants 8-8 ..............pakowitz
21 Denver Broncos 9-7 ..............AllSaints
22 Dallas Cowboys 9-7 ..............hagan714
23 Kansas City Chiefs 9-7...........pakowitz
24 New England Patriots 9-7 .....SaintsJam
25 New York Jets 10-6................BlackandBlue
26 Philadelphia Eagles 10-6.......papz

27 New Orleans Saints 10-6 ...by committee

28 New England Patriots 12-4 ..mighty12
29 Baltimore Ravens 13-3..........hagan714
30 San Diego Chargers 14-2......faldhamen
31 Chicago Bears 13-3 ..............faldhamen
32 Indianapolis Colts 12-4 ........Euphoria

Ok here we go. Draft will be done one pick at a time and please incude the reason for each pick. We still have two teams to be picked up. So any one wants in just step up.
Papz has put Buffalo's pick # 12 up for trade. PM all offers. That goes for any and all trades. Once a trade has been made then post it. Try not to give away the farm gang. The Saint's pick will be done by all GMs. :P
zachsaint is on the clock

CheramieIII 02-07-2007 08:04 PM

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Damn H, I Love this shiiiiiiiit. You da man. I will also take the Rams at #13, then I can trade with Papz. Let me know really quick if I get that one or not?

hagan714 02-07-2007 08:37 PM

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you got it. rams are yours. do not sell the farm

tapout 02-07-2007 09:34 PM

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hey, i know i don't post a lot (or ever), but i love some mock draft action. so, if no more active member wants the titans, i'll take a crack at them.

hagan714 02-08-2007 05:59 AM

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first you must qualify.
you can read, thats what you do most of the time here.
you can type, but have done very little of that here.
we will need to get you typing more
Lets see joined in 2004 and still know your password
tapout, your hired ,the titans are yours.

hagan714 02-08-2007 06:02 AM

RE: B&G Mock Draft 1
 
1 Oakland Raiders 2-14 ..............zachsaints52
2 Detroit Lions 3-13 ....................fhs623
3 Cleveland Browns^ 4-12..........SaintsJam
4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers^ 4-12..bulldog1865
5 Arizona Cardinals 5-11 ............TheDuce
6 Washington Redskins 5-11 ......CheramieIII
7 Minnesota Vikings 6-10 ...........neugey
8 Houston Texans 6-10 ..............saintsfan1313
9 Miami Dolphins 6-10 ................CheramieIII
10 Atlanta Falcons 7-9 ...............filaphill
11 San Francisco 49ers 7-9.........BlackandBlue
12 Buffalo Bills 7-9 ......................papz
13 St. Louis Rams 8-8 .................CheramieIII
14 Carolina Panthers 8-8.............fhs623
15 Pittsburgh Steelers 8-8...........D24pick
16 Green Bay Packers 8-8 ..........saintpaul25
17 Jacksonville Jaguars 8-8.........flacajun
18 Cincinnati Bengals 8-8 ...........SaintsJam
19 Tennessee Titans 8-8 .............tapout
20 New York Giants 8-8 ..............pakowitz
21 Denver Broncos 9-7 ..............AllSaints
22 Dallas Cowboys 9-7 ..............hagan714
23 Kansas City Chiefs 9-7...........pakowitz
24 Seattle Seahawks 9-7 ..........SaintsJam
25 New York Jets 10-6................BlackandBlue
26 Philadelphia Eagles 10-6.......papz

27 New Orleans Saints 10-6 ...by committee

28 New England Patriots 12-4 ..mighty12
29 Baltimore Ravens 13-3..........hagan714
30 San Diego Chargers 14-2......faldhamen
31 Chicago Bears 13-3 ..............faldhamen
32 Indianapolis Colts 12-4 ........Euphoria

Papz has put Buffallos # 12 up for trade.
Ok here we go. Draft will be done one pick at a
time and please incude the reason for each
pick.
zachsaint is on the clock

papz 02-08-2007 08:35 AM

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If anyone is left out and wants to participate, I'll be glad to surrender one of my first rounders. Just let me know soon because I don't want to do all this research for nothing. I'd prefer to keep the Bills because I already have an idea of what I want to do with that pick... so if you're interested in the Eagles, holla.

redjem25 02-08-2007 09:32 AM

I want in and the eagles are good

hagan714 02-08-2007 09:43 AM

1 Oakland Raiders 2-14 ..............zachsaints52
2 Detroit Lions 3-13 ....................fhs623
3 Cleveland Browns^ 4-12..........SaintsJam
4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers^ 4-12..bulldog1865
5 Arizona Cardinals 5-11 ............TheDuce
6 Washington Redskins 5-11 .....CheramieIII
7 Minnesota Vikings 6-10 ...........neugey
8 Houston Texans 6-10 ..............saintsfan1313
9 Miami Dolphins 6-10 ................CheramieIII
10 Atlanta Falcons 7-9 ................filaphill
11 San Francisco 49ers 7-9.........BlackandBlue
12 Buffalo Bills 7-9 ......................papz
13 St. Louis Rams 8-8 ................CheramieIII
14 Carolina Panthers 8-8............fhs623
15 Pittsburgh Steelers 8-8..........D24pick
16 Green Bay Packers 8-8 ..........saintpaul25
17 Jacksonville Jaguars 8-8.........flacajun
18 Cincinnati Bengals 8-8 ..........SaintsJam
19 Tennessee Titans 8-8 ...........tapout
20 New York Giants 8-8 .............pakowitz
21 Denver Broncos 9-7 ..............AllSaints
22 Dallas Cowboys 9-7 ..............hagan714
23 Kansas City Chiefs 9-7...........pakowitz
24 Seattle Seahawks 9-7 ...........SaintsJam
25 New York Jets 10-6................BlackandBlue
26 Philadelphia Eagles 10-6........redjem25

27 New Orleans Saints 10-6 ...by committee

28 New England Patriots 12-4 ..mighty12
29 Baltimore Ravens 13-3..........hagan714
30 San Diego Chargers 14-2......faldhamen
31 Chicago Bears 13-3 ..............faldhamen
32 Indianapolis Colts 12-4 ........Euphoria
ok redjem the eagles are yours. If any one wants in just ask and i am sure those with more than one will be happy to give one up

papz 02-08-2007 10:22 AM

Eagles? SOLD!!! That will be 5 dollars. :mrgreen:

zachsaints52 02-08-2007 10:52 AM

So do I pick right now? If so, the Raiders select Joe Thomas, OT from Wisconsin :D

hagan714 02-08-2007 11:02 AM

why?

zachsaints52 02-08-2007 11:29 AM

Becuase I like Andrew Walter, and I think he can actually play. I would put Gallery at RT, Thomas at LT. Plus, I love a team with a strong O-line and D-line...Not to mention they will probably pick up Marques contract and bring in someone in the later rounds. Walters college career was a really good one, shattering records held by Hall Of Famers.

zachsaints52 02-08-2007 11:43 AM

Wait, can you delete that last two post of mine, I didnt know we could trade draft picks... If not, thats ok

papz 02-08-2007 11:54 AM

That's totally unexpected... Joe Thomas. Ripple effect...

saintsfan1313 02-08-2007 12:04 PM

no kidding....but i see his point ....but an OL going 1st, kinda crazy....but hes the GM

hagan714 02-08-2007 12:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714
Papz has put Buffalo's pick # 12 up for trade. PM all offers. That goes for any and all trades. Once a trade has been made then post it. Try not to give away the farm gang. The Saint's pick will be done by all GMs. :P
zachsaint is on the clock

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/fea...aluechart.html
for you trade happy bunch.


It is up to the rest if we restart but it was posted

hagan714 02-08-2007 12:17 PM

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hey papz thats no ripple it is a tidal wave. well then again so was Bush last year.
I do want this to realistic also. I do not find that pick so bad since he is the #2 pick of the draft in most mocks I have read to detriot. screws up fhs623 a bit. Pick the QB they say they do not need. god help them if they go WR as we know. so trade is open.

hagan714 02-08-2007 12:32 PM

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okay zachsaints put out your PM see if you can get a trade. you only get one do over dude.

zachsaints52 02-08-2007 12:32 PM

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Yeah, I guess I am sticking with my pick. Joe Thomas, OT from Wisconsin.

tapout 02-08-2007 12:42 PM

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wow, lets see how far the QBs fall now...

zachsaints52 02-08-2007 12:44 PM

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Well, Lions should pretty much pick one. Browns might, maybe even the Bucs. Who knows though?

tapout 02-08-2007 12:53 PM

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i think the lions should take quinn, but AP and CJ (i know) might be too hard to pass up.
there are much worse starting QBs in the league than kitna.

papz 02-08-2007 01:00 PM

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2 and 3 will be very interesting seeing how Quinn is Harrington and Frye-like... those three are very similiar quarterbacks. Detroit got rid of Harrington while Frye is still there in Cleveland. Three interesting questions...

1. Will Detroit opt for Quinn, Russell, or surprise everyone and select Adrian Peterson?
2. Will Cleveland trade up and select Russell making Detroit's decision much easier?
3. Will Detroit snag another receiver?

Anything can happen with Millen.

One more thing on the Raiders' pick of Thomas... that took some nuts because Gallery is a flop there in Oakland. He's never lived up to his hype and to select another OT that high... bravo.

saintsfan1313 02-08-2007 01:10 PM

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There has been a trade..........


Houston (saintsfan1313) has traded the #8 pick and David Carr to Detroit for the #2 pick

And with the #2 pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, Houston selects......

Jamarcus Russell, QB out of LSU


Houston gives up on Carr, and after Oakland passes on Russell, they have to pull the trigger. Texans fans will be calling for some heads if they dont do something big, so here it is.....

saintsfan1313 02-08-2007 01:22 PM

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Also, Houston was shopping Carr for a 3rd or 4th, which is a value in the 200's and 300's, so they get the QB they want, dump Carr, and it was good value as far picks are concerned....so i liked it....whats everyone's take on it.....

papz 02-08-2007 01:25 PM

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Wow... there's been speculation Carr could be had for a 3rd rounder maybe. So this really doesn't make that much sense. Detroit also made a huge commitment to Kitna and Carr make 7 or 8 million per season. They would also have to extend his contract because he only has another year left on it while Kitna has I think 4 more. Texans get Russell and then what? They're still left with the same problem... no lineman to protect their quarterback.

But hey... this draft is going to be hellla interesting.

hagan714 02-08-2007 01:26 PM

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So david is worth 1100 pts in trade value? that is the same as 14th pick in Round 1. with his salary I can see that. But it does raise some eye brows. hmm
http://www.degnan.org/dolphins/draftvaluechart.htm

papz 02-08-2007 01:29 PM

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Detroit should just trade their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th to get Carr straight up while keeping the #2 pick in the draft. Detroit should get more value for that pick imo. One year of Carr for switching the 2nd and 8th pick does not make sense.

tapout 02-08-2007 01:39 PM

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what happens to jake plummer now? he's been heavily rumored to be headed to houston. maybe he can go to miami and they can just rotate QBs based on fantasy matchup.

papz 02-08-2007 01:41 PM

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:lolup:

saintsfan1313 02-08-2007 01:43 PM

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It worked good for Houston I think......

fhs623 02-08-2007 01:46 PM

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lions top need is o-line help.kitna was sacked 63 times last year. I couldnt take thomas cuz he was gone. cant take CJ cuz they're set at wrs. rb is a possibility, but #2 too high for Peterson, who is injury by the way. There is no defensive guy valued at #2. The Qbs this year don't really excite me (I think Brian Brohm would've been taken ahead of both Quinn and Russell).Finally, I based my trade on the assumption that Carr re-negotiates his contract.

hagan714 02-08-2007 01:57 PM

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agreed but this is the lions. I could see a conditional second round pick for 08 in the deal if they sign him and if not it goes to a #1. Include swapping 3rd this year and maybe it works. now the salary bit makes it very strange. i have to say this is highway robery.

hagan714 02-08-2007 01:59 PM

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once again the lions fans will be striking as soon as they can get there jaws of the floor.

papz 02-08-2007 02:03 PM

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Millen is fired after the draft. 8)

Don't get me wrong fsh, trading down makes sense because the team has many holes. But I just don't think you got enough value... you think Carr will take THAT big of a pay cut with an extension? He certainly isn't worth the money he's been making. He could easily become a cap casullty if the Texans aren't able to trade him.

saintsfan1313 02-08-2007 02:10 PM

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hehe, he approached me about it, so dont make me the robber.....Russell is a lil more mobile than Carr, so maybe he dodge bullets a lil better.....Texans can get some O-line help in the 2nd and should thru FA as well.......I like the pick for the Texans, not the Lions...but i wasnt pickin for the Lions, so I can be ruthless.......:)

fhs623 02-08-2007 02:17 PM

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I never said Kitna would back up Carr so salary issue isnt an issue

hagan714 02-08-2007 02:26 PM

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well we all understand the move down. lets see what you have up your sleeve here. we are just trying to understand the point value Carr carries in this trade thats all. maybe you see it that way. thats cool.

papz 02-08-2007 02:31 PM

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How can salary not be an issue?


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