Aaron Brooks is being treated unfair...

TonyMax · 07-16-2003, 06:54 PM

by the coaches, fans, and sportswriters. The only concern should be about the health of his shoulder. Not his leadership skills and blah blah.

I say he's being treated unfair by the coaches because they are sending him to these leadership seminars. Was good is that going to do? Aaron is not the type of guy to get in someone's face and yell (like Rich Gannon). You have leaders like Michael Jordan who will get in your face. And then you have leaders like Tim Duncan who lead by example. I see Aaron being like Tim Duncan. Forget the talking and lead by example and do your job so your team could win. I recall Aaron putting his arm around Stallworth during the first game against Carolina and telling him "don't worry about the dropped balls. I am coming back to you" and what happens.... Stallworth catches the winning touchdown pass. That's leadership at it's finest.

And the fans are even worse. How are you going to boo your starting quarterback who was at the time leading the NFC in touchdown passes and should of been voted to the pro-bowl? Aaron Brooks did improve from the 2001 season. His TD's increased and his Int's decreased. Some of the Saints fans are idiots. One game away from a shot at winning the Super Bowl and you boo your starting quarterback? Baffles me!

And I say sportwriters are wrong too. Whoever wrote the article about Aaron watch out is flat out wrong. Why should he watch out? It seems to me that most of the blame for last season collapse is being blamed on Aaron Brooks when it should be blamed on Haslett. This team could not finish an opponent because the defense kept letting teams back in the game. Aaron and the offense bailed the team out plenty of times only to find themselves back in a hole because the defense (which is supposed to win you games) always gave it up. Just look at how Aaron Brooks out performed quarterbacks like Favre, Garcia, McNabb, Vick, and Gannon when all of those quarterbacks faced the number one defense (Tampa Bay). Aaron threw 4 touchdown passes and only one pick against the number one defense. Favere threw three picks in a loss, Vick was picked off, Garcia threw three picks, McNabb threw a crucial interception that sent Tampa to the Super Bowl and Gannon (yes the MVP) threw 5 Int's and three were returned for touchdowns. Do we here any of their fans booing? Do we hear any of their sportwriters saying watch for the second string? Aaron Brooks gets no respect!

BlackandBlue · 07-16-2003, 07:08 PM

There is so much to say about this, that my brain is misfiring synapses in all different directions. Whodat\'s brain may have fallen out, but my has just been cooked. Well done, anyone?

BillyCarpenter1 · 07-16-2003, 07:11 PM

There is so much to say about this, that my brain is misfiring synapses in all different directions. Whodat\'s brain may have fallen out, but my has just been cooked. Well done, anyone?

The dude has some valed points that I never thought of. NO?

BlackandBlue · 07-16-2003, 07:19 PM

It\'s not his post that worries me. It\'s the potential of this thread to fall into the downward spiral that the other 30 threads have.
Off topic, using Duncan as a comparison is poor. Leadership in basketball is not the same as leadership in football. Give me the name of one Spur player that would cross Duncan or what Duncan wanted- name one. That\'s all I ask. Every team has a leader in basketball, that one person that everyone refer\'s to as \"his team\". The Nets are Kidd\'s team, the Lakers is Shaq\'s team (despite what Kobe thinks), and the Timberwolves are Garnett\'s team. Now, Duncan may not lead \"his team\" like Garnett or Shaq, but he doesn\'t exactly bust out with a smile while the other team steals the ball from him either.
Brooks or Deuce, has to be the leader on this offense, and we definately need someone to step up as the leader on defense (come on Howard, it\'s your time, baby). Brooks can be the quiet leader, that\'s fine with me. But show a little respect to the game, and keep the smiles, regardless of whether you win or lose, in the locker room until after you\'ve won the Super Bowl.

[Edited on 16/7/2003 by BlackandBlue]

[Edited on 16/7/2003 by BlackandBlue]

BillyCarpenter1 · 07-16-2003, 07:25 PM

. Now, Duncan may not lead \"his team\" like Garnett or Shaq, but he doesn\'t exactly bust out with a smile while the other team steals the ball from him either.

LMAO...That\'s funny.

Oh, and you mispelled a word on that post....

D_it_up · 07-16-2003, 07:36 PM

I guess I\'m kinda in the middle on this one about Brooks. No I wasn\'t at all happy when I saw him smiling after interceptions. Then again, I\'m glad he didn\'t get so upset about it that he went out there and played even worse. Normally when players get down on themselves or get mad, they tend to perform worse than they did on their first mistake, because they are trying so hard to right the ship. They tend to lose focus and their perception becomes hazy. At least with his smiles he seems to still be loose. I think Aaron knows that he has the potential to come back and lead two or three straight scoring drives to amend for his mistake(s), and that is why he takes the interceptions so lightly. It drives me up the wall, though. It\'s almost as if he\'s having a good time with those interceptions. To a fan, it seems like he\'s being cocky, which he is. Cocky in the fact that he knows he can get the job done, but just made a mistake. If he can get mad at himself and stay focused, then I\'m all for it. If he can\'t control that anger and makes more mistakes than he should, I\'ll be perfectly happy with seeing him smile a bit.

BillyCarpenter1 · 07-16-2003, 07:38 PM

Ditup2,

Amen.

The last thing I want is a Kyle Turley at QB.

BlackandBlue · 07-16-2003, 07:44 PM

Oh, and you mispelled a word on that post....

Where? I don\'t know what you are talking about

ssmitty · 07-16-2003, 07:49 PM

no, no, no, no, no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i don\'t wanna beat this dead duck no more dude......................................................................................
throw the fu#king stats out the window, ok????????????????????????????????????
when the fu#k were we ever one game away from the super bowl?????????????????
did someone have tickets for the team?????????????????????????????????????????
this is the nfl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
name one qb that has never been booed in his career!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHOW ME THE SUPERBOWL AB AND ALL IS FORGIVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
smitty

BillyCarpenter1 · 07-16-2003, 07:49 PM

It\'s not his post that worries me. It\'s the potential of this thread to fall into the downward spiral that the other 30 threads have.
Off topic, using Duncan as a comparison is poor. Leadership in basketball is not the same as leadership in football. Give me the name of one Spur player that would cross Duncan or what Duncan wanted- name one. That\'s all I ask. Every team has a leader in basketball, that one person that everyone refer\'s to as \"his team\". The Nets are Kidd\'s team, the Lakers are Shaq\'s team (despite what Kobe thinks), and the Timberwolves are Garnett\'s team. Now, Duncan may not lead \"his team\" like Garnett or Shaq, but he doesn\'t exactly bust out with a smile while the other team steals the ball from him either.
Brooks or Deuce, has to be the leader on this offense, and we definately need someone to step up as the leader on defense (come on Howard, it\'s your time, baby). Brooks can be the quiet leader, that\'s fine with me. But show a little respect to the game, and keep the smiles, regardless of whether you win or lose, in the locker room until after you\'ve won the Super Bowl.

I see you repaired one of the mistakes and I took care of the other one for you....
[Edited on 16/7/2003 by BlackandBlue]

[Edited on 16/7/2003 by BlackandBlue]

07-16-2003, 06:54 PM	#1
TonyMax Rookie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 14	Aaron Brooks is being treated unfair... by the coaches, fans, and sportswriters. The only concern should be about the health of his shoulder. Not his leadership skills and blah blah. I say he's being treated unfair by the coaches because they are sending him to these leadership seminars. Was good is that going to do? Aaron is not the type of guy to get in someone's face and yell (like Rich Gannon). You have leaders like Michael Jordan who will get in your face. And then you have leaders like Tim Duncan who lead by example. I see Aaron being like Tim Duncan. Forget the talking and lead by example and do your job so your team could win. I recall Aaron putting his arm around Stallworth during the first game against Carolina and telling him "don't worry about the dropped balls. I am coming back to you" and what happens.... Stallworth catches the winning touchdown pass. That's leadership at it's finest. And the fans are even worse. How are you going to boo your starting quarterback who was at the time leading the NFC in touchdown passes and should of been voted to the pro-bowl? Aaron Brooks did improve from the 2001 season. His TD's increased and his Int's decreased. Some of the Saints fans are idiots. One game away from a shot at winning the Super Bowl and you boo your starting quarterback? Baffles me! And I say sportwriters are wrong too. Whoever wrote the article about Aaron watch out is flat out wrong. Why should he watch out? It seems to me that most of the blame for last season collapse is being blamed on Aaron Brooks when it should be blamed on Haslett. This team could not finish an opponent because the defense kept letting teams back in the game. Aaron and the offense bailed the team out plenty of times only to find themselves back in a hole because the defense (which is supposed to win you games) always gave it up. Just look at how Aaron Brooks out performed quarterbacks like Favre, Garcia, McNabb, Vick, and Gannon when all of those quarterbacks faced the number one defense (Tampa Bay). Aaron threw 4 touchdown passes and only one pick against the number one defense. Favere threw three picks in a loss, Vick was picked off, Garcia threw three picks, McNabb threw a crucial interception that sent Tampa to the Super Bowl and Gannon (yes the MVP) threw 5 Int's and three were returned for touchdowns. Do we here any of their fans booing? Do we hear any of their sportwriters saying watch for the second string? Aaron Brooks gets no respect!
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07-16-2003, 07:08 PM	#2
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Aaron Brooks is being treated unfair... There is so much to say about this, that my brain is misfiring synapses in all different directions. Whodat\'s brain may have fallen out, but my has just been cooked. Well done, anyone?

07-16-2003, 07:11 PM	#3
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Aaron Brooks is being treated unfair... There is so much to say about this, that my brain is misfiring synapses in all different directions. Whodat\'s brain may have fallen out, but my has just been cooked. Well done, anyone? The dude has some valed points that I never thought of. NO?
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07-16-2003, 07:19 PM	#4
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Aaron Brooks is being treated unfair... It\'s not his post that worries me. It\'s the potential of this thread to fall into the downward spiral that the other 30 threads have. Off topic, using Duncan as a comparison is poor. Leadership in basketball is not the same as leadership in football. Give me the name of one Spur player that would cross Duncan or what Duncan wanted- name one. That\'s all I ask. Every team has a leader in basketball, that one person that everyone refer\'s to as \"his team\". The Nets are Kidd\'s team, the Lakers is Shaq\'s team (despite what Kobe thinks), and the Timberwolves are Garnett\'s team. Now, Duncan may not lead \"his team\" like Garnett or Shaq, but he doesn\'t exactly bust out with a smile while the other team steals the ball from him either. Brooks or Deuce, has to be the leader on this offense, and we definately need someone to step up as the leader on defense (come on Howard, it\'s your time, baby). Brooks can be the quiet leader, that\'s fine with me. But show a little respect to the game, and keep the smiles, regardless of whether you win or lose, in the locker room until after you\'ve won the Super Bowl. [Edited on 16/7/2003 by BlackandBlue] [Edited on 16/7/2003 by BlackandBlue]
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07-16-2003, 07:25 PM	#5
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Aaron Brooks is being treated unfair... . Now, Duncan may not lead \"his team\" like Garnett or Shaq, but he doesn\'t exactly bust out with a smile while the other team steals the ball from him either. LMAO...That\'s funny. Oh, and you mispelled a word on that post....
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07-16-2003, 07:36 PM	#6
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Aaron Brooks is being treated unfair... I guess I\'m kinda in the middle on this one about Brooks. No I wasn\'t at all happy when I saw him smiling after interceptions. Then again, I\'m glad he didn\'t get so upset about it that he went out there and played even worse. Normally when players get down on themselves or get mad, they tend to perform worse than they did on their first mistake, because they are trying so hard to right the ship. They tend to lose focus and their perception becomes hazy. At least with his smiles he seems to still be loose. I think Aaron knows that he has the potential to come back and lead two or three straight scoring drives to amend for his mistake(s), and that is why he takes the interceptions so lightly. It drives me up the wall, though. It\'s almost as if he\'s having a good time with those interceptions. To a fan, it seems like he\'s being cocky, which he is. Cocky in the fact that he knows he can get the job done, but just made a mistake. If he can get mad at himself and stay focused, then I\'m all for it. If he can\'t control that anger and makes more mistakes than he should, I\'ll be perfectly happy with seeing him smile a bit.
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07-16-2003, 07:38 PM	#7
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Aaron Brooks is being treated unfair... Ditup2, Amen. The last thing I want is a Kyle Turley at QB.
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07-16-2003, 07:44 PM	#8
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Aaron Brooks is being treated unfair... Oh, and you mispelled a word on that post.... Where? I don\'t know what you are talking about

07-16-2003, 07:49 PM	#9
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	Aaron Brooks is being treated unfair... no, no, no, no, no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i don\'t wanna beat this dead duck no more dude...................................................................................... throw the fu#king stats out the window, ok???????????????????????????????????? when the fu#k were we ever one game away from the super bowl????????????????? did someone have tickets for the team????????????????????????????????????????? this is the nfl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! name one qb that has never been booed in his career!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHOW ME THE SUPERBOWL AB AND ALL IS FORGIVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! smitty
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