Message To Coach Payton

hagan714 · 09-12-2007, 08:51 PM

Duce runs means Bush runs and vice a versa. end of story
KK is good at run support but like Bullocks he can be exploited in the passing game.

Papa Voodoo · 09-13-2007, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Duce runs means Bush runs and vice a versa. end of story
KK is good at run support but like Bullocks he can be exploited in the passing game.

And what was the KK to Bullocks pick ratio last year? Bullocks sucks. He's almost always out of position and rarely makes any kind of play. Harper and Bellamy is better than Harper and Bullocks. I say put in KK and let Bellamy play the red zone. Bellamy and Simmons in the red zone will produce for sure.

Cassady37 · 09-13-2007, 08:36 AM

I wholeheartedly agree with the assesement on Bullocks, he has left more than one cornerback out to dry! As I have said time and time again on this board, we need a new defensive coordinator, plain and simple. This one seems to have as bad of blinders on as did Haslett with Brooks. ( Oh no he didn't just go there! ) We cannot run man on d, we have sucked at it for years now and the d-coordinator just can't seem to let it go. His reasoning has made me question his intentions the whole time. His 'let's bring in zone players to play man coverage' has me baffled on so many levels. And as I have said before, if you continue to get beat down the field, at least start blitzing form every conceivable angle! You're getting beat anyway, why not try to get to the QB before he burns you? But staying with man, and leaving our LB's in a maybe we blitz from a vanilla scheme or maybe we leave them in run d to get the hell pounded out of them, ain't going to cut it any longer. And don't think Peyton didn't know he could burn Jason David anytime he wanted to, now he just showed the rest of the NFL how to do it. We better be making some adjustments on both sides of the ball this week or else that feeling of how Haslett started his descent his second year will creep back into the back of my mind.

blacksaint · 09-13-2007, 03:06 PM

OK guys, let's sit back and take a very deep breath. Now relax, we're not 0-6 or 0-10, we're 0-1, no one should be having anxiety attacks. When I mentioned Deuce and trade in the same sentence, I didn't mean for you guys to run off with that, I really don't think the Saints will trade the Deuce for the simple reason Bush haven't proved he can be the man yet and until then they feel a lot more comfortable with Deuce in the backfield. Coach has since acknowledge he have to run the Deuce way more than they did against the Colts, and I think the Bucs better button their chin straps up because THE DEUCE IS COMING!

hagan714 · 09-13-2007, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

And what was the KK to Bullocks pick ratio last year? Bullocks sucks. He's almost always out of position and rarely makes any kind of play. Harper and Bellamy is better than Harper and Bullocks. I say put in KK and let Bellamy play the red zone. Bellamy and Simmons in the red zone will produce for sure.

All I am saying is KK may not be the answer you are looking for. He is another signing that did not address a problem as a fix for that position but it did add depth so the bleeding would not be so bad if injury hits again. He is just another temp

09-12-2007, 08:51 PM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Message To Coach Payton Duce runs means Bush runs and vice a versa. end of story KK is good at run support but like Bullocks he can be exploited in the passing game.

09-13-2007, 04:43 AM	#2
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Message To Coach Payton Originally Posted by hagan714 Duce runs means Bush runs and vice a versa. end of story KK is good at run support but like Bullocks he can be exploited in the passing game. And what was the KK to Bullocks pick ratio last year? Bullocks sucks. He's almost always out of position and rarely makes any kind of play. Harper and Bellamy is better than Harper and Bullocks. I say put in KK and let Bellamy play the red zone. Bellamy and Simmons in the red zone will produce for sure.

09-13-2007, 08:36 AM	#3
Cassady37 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kilgore, Texas Posts: 337	Re: Message To Coach Payton I wholeheartedly agree with the assesement on Bullocks, he has left more than one cornerback out to dry! As I have said time and time again on this board, we need a new defensive coordinator, plain and simple. This one seems to have as bad of blinders on as did Haslett with Brooks. ( Oh no he didn't just go there! ) We cannot run man on d, we have sucked at it for years now and the d-coordinator just can't seem to let it go. His reasoning has made me question his intentions the whole time. His 'let's bring in zone players to play man coverage' has me baffled on so many levels. And as I have said before, if you continue to get beat down the field, at least start blitzing form every conceivable angle! You're getting beat anyway, why not try to get to the QB before he burns you? But staying with man, and leaving our LB's in a maybe we blitz from a vanilla scheme or maybe we leave them in run d to get the hell pounded out of them, ain't going to cut it any longer. And don't think Peyton didn't know he could burn Jason David anytime he wanted to, now he just showed the rest of the NFL how to do it. We better be making some adjustments on both sides of the ball this week or else that feeling of how Haslett started his descent his second year will creep back into the back of my mind.

09-13-2007, 03:06 PM	#4
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Re: Message To Coach Payton OK guys, let's sit back and take a very deep breath. Now relax, we're not 0-6 or 0-10, we're 0-1, no one should be having anxiety attacks. When I mentioned Deuce and trade in the same sentence, I didn't mean for you guys to run off with that, I really don't think the Saints will trade the Deuce for the simple reason Bush haven't proved he can be the man yet and until then they feel a lot more comfortable with Deuce in the backfield. Coach has since acknowledge he have to run the Deuce way more than they did against the Colts, and I think the Bucs better button their chin straps up because THE DEUCE IS COMING!
	saint4life (504)

09-13-2007, 04:07 PM	#5
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Message To Coach Payton Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo And what was the KK to Bullocks pick ratio last year? Bullocks sucks. He's almost always out of position and rarely makes any kind of play. Harper and Bellamy is better than Harper and Bullocks. I say put in KK and let Bellamy play the red zone. Bellamy and Simmons in the red zone will produce for sure. All I am saying is KK may not be the answer you are looking for. He is another signing that did not address a problem as a fix for that position but it did add depth so the bleeding would not be so bad if injury hits again. He is just another temp

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