This is why you don't cut 4th round picks

frankeefrank · 09-27-2007, 01:05 AM

B/C of injuries...

Pittman could spell Reggie and Steck...
Plus,
We traded up to get Pittman

All whom we could have had...

8(107) New Orleans (from Houston) Antonio Pittman RB OHIO STATE
9(108) Miami Paul Soliai DT UTAH
10(109) Atlanta Stephen Nicholas OLB SOUTH FLORIDA
11(110) Oakland (from San Francisco through New England) John Bowie CB CINCINNATI
12(111) Buffalo Dwayne Wright RB FRESNO STATE
13(112) Pittsburgh (from Green Bay) Daniel Sepulveda PT BAYLOR
14(113) Jacksonville Brian Smith OLB MISSOURI
15(114) Cincinnati Marvin White S TCU
16(115) Tennessee Leroy Harris OC NORTH CAROLINA ST
17(116) NY Giants Zak Deossie OLB BROWN
18(117) Detroit (from St. Louis) Manuel Ramirez OG TEXAS TECH
19(118) Carolina Ryne Robinson WR MIAMI (OHIO)
20(119) Green Bay (from Pittsburgh) Allen Barbre OT MISSOURI SOUTHERN
21(120) Seattle Baraka Atkins DE MIAMI (FLA.)
22(121) Denver Marcus Thomas DT FLORIDA
23(122) Dallas Doug Free OT NORTHERN ILLINOIS
24(123) Houston (from Kansas City from New Orleans) Fred Bennett CB SOUTH CAROLINA

Plus, the guys after

saintsrule · 09-27-2007, 01:17 AM

That is why they got depth during the draft, because they know that they would get injuries. I have no problem with who they drafted, becasue they will need the depth this season, as everyone can see.

saintsfan1976 · 09-27-2007, 08:53 AM

Frankee - - If "if's and and's" were Pots and Pans, this world would be a kitchen. Pittman, if you remember, couldn't block a fart. Thank God he's gone, or Drew could be dead.

I don't remember the Saints using a crystal ball in the war room this year.....

SmashMouth · 09-27-2007, 07:23 PM

yeah ...sofar... I'll second that motion!

Euphoria · 09-27-2007, 07:31 PM

WAY TO EARLY to rate the draft. You got to give these guys time to develop and get use to the faster game.

If you want to argue draft picks lets argue Reggie. When we could have got an OL or a DL. That is where our problems have been and we still haven't address them and look where we are now... 0-4.

QBREES9 · 09-27-2007, 10:35 PM

WAY TO EARLY to rate the draft. You got to give these guys time to develop and get use to the faster game.

but not looking good right now !!!

saintsfan1976 · 09-27-2007, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

If you want to argue draft picks lets argue Reggie. When we could have got an OL or a DL. That is where our problems have been and we still haven't address them and look where we are now... 0-4.

You know you creamed in your PJ's when we picked Reggie.... Funny how no one was complaining about an O lineman dutring that draft OR at the end of last year when we had the "best" offensive line in the league.

Now 3 games into the season, you're ready to say we never addressed our problem?? Horsesh**!!

MatthewT · 09-27-2007, 11:06 PM

4th round picks should never be cut in their first year. The real issue is Pittman should have never been drafted by the Saints in the first place. The Saints cut him because he got beaten out of his job by Pierre Thomas. At least getting Thomas kind of softens the blow of a wasted draft pick. The main issue with Pittman is he is horrible at blocking, and really did not put up very good numbers running the ball. I think in time he could have solved those problems, but to me the Saints really botched this one. They really should have taken a defensive prospect with that pick.

dasaints26 · 09-27-2007, 11:11 PM

How does this team go from havin the best offense in the league to only bein able to score on garbage time? All this talk about the o-line suckin take a look at the stats. We have been throwin the ball alot in situations where the other team knows we are goin to be throwin and we have givin up only 4 sacks. That is not a bad avg per att of course there has been alot of pressure but Brees does get rid of ball sometimes to the other team. Our average per rush attempt is better than 3.5 which is comparable to other teams which is good countin all the dancin Bush does before he reaches the line of scrimage and then he decides to run for the sidelines. This o-line was good enough last year to anchor the best offense in the league and that is not a fluke if you do it all year long.

Euphoria · 09-27-2007, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

You know you creamed in your PJ's when we picked Reggie.... Funny how no one was complaining about an O lineman dutring that draft OR at the end of last year when we had the "best" offensive line in the league.

Now 3 games into the season, you're ready to say we never addressed our problem?? Horsesh**!!

Well I hate to say it but you're wrong if you can go back to previous post of mine I shouted it up and down and every which way I could. Our pick should have been BRICK! and or Mangold. We should have gone after those guys then instead of Reggie. We didn't have the 'best' OLine in the league. We had one that got by and looked good at times but we only went 10-6, 2 games away from 500. You use the lines to keep you in games and to win. Look what happened last year against good teams... we got spanked! We were not in the games against teams that had good lines. Our lines have sucked for a few years now and no matter who we have in the back field they are going to struggle. We have got to build the O and D lines.

09-27-2007, 01:05 AM	#1
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	This is why you don't cut 4th round picks B/C of injuries... Pittman could spell Reggie and Steck... Plus, We traded up to get Pittman All whom we could have had... 8(107) New Orleans (from Houston) Antonio Pittman RB OHIO STATE 9(108) Miami Paul Soliai DT UTAH 10(109) Atlanta Stephen Nicholas OLB SOUTH FLORIDA 11(110) Oakland (from San Francisco through New England) John Bowie CB CINCINNATI 12(111) Buffalo Dwayne Wright RB FRESNO STATE 13(112) Pittsburgh (from Green Bay) Daniel Sepulveda PT BAYLOR 14(113) Jacksonville Brian Smith OLB MISSOURI 15(114) Cincinnati Marvin White S TCU 16(115) Tennessee Leroy Harris OC NORTH CAROLINA ST 17(116) NY Giants Zak Deossie OLB BROWN 18(117) Detroit (from St. Louis) Manuel Ramirez OG TEXAS TECH 19(118) Carolina Ryne Robinson WR MIAMI (OHIO) 20(119) Green Bay (from Pittsburgh) Allen Barbre OT MISSOURI SOUTHERN 21(120) Seattle Baraka Atkins DE MIAMI (FLA.) 22(121) Denver Marcus Thomas DT FLORIDA 23(122) Dallas Doug Free OT NORTHERN ILLINOIS 24(123) Houston (from Kansas City from New Orleans) Fred Bennett CB SOUTH CAROLINA Plus, the guys after
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09-27-2007, 01:17 AM	#2
saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657	Re: This is why you don't cut 4th round picks That is why they got depth during the draft, because they know that they would get injuries. I have no problem with who they drafted, becasue they will need the depth this season, as everyone can see.
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09-27-2007, 08:53 AM	#3
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,048 Blog Entries: 3	Re: This is why you don't cut 4th round picks Frankee - - If "if's and and's" were Pots and Pans, this world would be a kitchen. Pittman, if you remember, couldn't block a fart. Thank God he's gone, or Drew could be dead. I don't remember the Saints using a crystal ball in the war room this year.....

09-27-2007, 07:23 PM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,965 Blog Entries: 29	Re: This is why you don't cut 4th round picks yeah ...sofar... I'll second that motion!

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: This is why you don't cut 4th round picks WAY TO EARLY to rate the draft. You got to give these guys time to develop and get use to the faster game. If you want to argue draft picks lets argue Reggie. When we could have got an OL or a DL. That is where our problems have been and we still haven't address them and look where we are now... 0-4.

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: This is why you don't cut 4th round picks WAY TO EARLY to rate the draft. You got to give these guys time to develop and get use to the faster game. but not looking good right now !!!

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,048 Blog Entries: 3	Re: This is why you don't cut 4th round picks Originally Posted by Euphoria If you want to argue draft picks lets argue Reggie. When we could have got an OL or a DL. That is where our problems have been and we still haven't address them and look where we are now... 0-4. You know you creamed in your PJ's when we picked Reggie.... Funny how no one was complaining about an O lineman dutring that draft OR at the end of last year when we had the "best" offensive line in the league. Now 3 games into the season, you're ready to say we never addressed our problem?? Horsesh**!!

09-27-2007, 11:06 PM	#8
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: This is why you don't cut 4th round picks 4th round picks should never be cut in their first year. The real issue is Pittman should have never been drafted by the Saints in the first place. The Saints cut him because he got beaten out of his job by Pierre Thomas. At least getting Thomas kind of softens the blow of a wasted draft pick. The main issue with Pittman is he is horrible at blocking, and really did not put up very good numbers running the ball. I think in time he could have solved those problems, but to me the Saints really botched this one. They really should have taken a defensive prospect with that pick.

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dasaints26 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 167	Re: This is why you don't cut 4th round picks How does this team go from havin the best offense in the league to only bein able to score on garbage time? All this talk about the o-line suckin take a look at the stats. We have been throwin the ball alot in situations where the other team knows we are goin to be throwin and we have givin up only 4 sacks. That is not a bad avg per att of course there has been alot of pressure but Brees does get rid of ball sometimes to the other team. Our average per rush attempt is better than 3.5 which is comparable to other teams which is good countin all the dancin Bush does before he reaches the line of scrimage and then he decides to run for the sidelines. This o-line was good enough last year to anchor the best offense in the league and that is not a fluke if you do it all year long.
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09-27-2007, 11:14 PM	#10
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: This is why you don't cut 4th round picks Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 You know you creamed in your PJ's when we picked Reggie.... Funny how no one was complaining about an O lineman dutring that draft OR at the end of last year when we had the "best" offensive line in the league. Now 3 games into the season, you're ready to say we never addressed our problem?? Horsesh**!! Well I hate to say it but you're wrong if you can go back to previous post of mine I shouted it up and down and every which way I could. Our pick should have been BRICK! and or Mangold. We should have gone after those guys then instead of Reggie. We didn't have the 'best' OLine in the league. We had one that got by and looked good at times but we only went 10-6, 2 games away from 500. You use the lines to keep you in games and to win. Look what happened last year against good teams... we got spanked! We were not in the games against teams that had good lines. Our lines have sucked for a few years now and no matter who we have in the back field they are going to struggle. We have got to build the O and D lines.