Statiscally speaking, Saints not that far off

JOESAM2002 · 10-11-2007, 08:50 AM

"Statistics are for losers." Vince Lombardi

SapperSaint · 10-11-2007, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

"Statistics are for losers." Vince Lombardi

AMEN!

What matters is wins and losses.

This team is VERY far off. Sole searching is something this team really needs to do. Along with benching some folks and trying new blood.

The worst thing to hear from a coach or a player is, "WELL boys, we ALMOST won."

darstep · 10-11-2007, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

"Statistics are for losers." Vince Lombardi

Vince Lombardi was speaking from a winners perch when he said it, and the numbers were on his side. Stats do matter, with the biggest stat being 0-4. 0-4 is simply the sum thats reached when the little numbers are all added together. I am a numbers guy because the numbers don't lie. I also believe that there are keys to winning and losing that don't show up in the books. Little things like causing QB hurries, good blocks to keep your man out of the play, sacrificing yourself to take out the lead blocker, forcing your opponent to your chosen direction, adjusting your route to catch a poorly thrown pass, etc... Our problem has been poor numbers and a poor effort. I think that if the effort improves, so will the numbers. Sean Payton has to demand a better effort, and orchestrate it all so that the effort leads to success on both sides of the ball.

WhoDat205 · 10-11-2007, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by darstep

...the numbers don't lie...

We had the 11th ranked defense last year. IMO, that was a lie.

Euphoria · 10-11-2007, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by darstep

Vince Lombardi was speaking from a winners perch when he said it, and the numbers were on his side. Stats do matter, with the biggest stat being 0-4. 0-4 is simply the sum thats reached when the little numbers are all added together. I am a numbers guy because the numbers don't lie. I also believe that there are keys to winning and losing that don't show up in the books. Little things like causing QB hurries, good blocks to keep your man out of the play, sacrificing yourself to take out the lead blocker, forcing your opponent to your chosen direction, adjusting your route to catch a poorly thrown pass, etc... Our problem has been poor numbers and a poor effort. I think that if the effort improves, so will the numbers. Sean Payton has to demand a better effort, and orchestrate it all so that the effort leads to success on both sides of the ball.

0-4 isn't a stat... its reality.

Euphoria · 10-11-2007, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

"Statistics are for losers." Vince Lombardi

Such a perfect quote. If you recall last year we didn't post stats when we were winning but now that we are back to reality we post stats. -interesting. Lombardi and Berra 2 greatest quote makers of all time.

saintfan · 10-12-2007, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

"Statistics are for losers." Vince Lombardi

Indeed. Amen. Reverend!

10-11-2007, 08:50 AM	#1
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: Statiscally speaking, Saints not that far off "Statistics are for losers." Vince Lombardi

10-11-2007, 10:13 AM	#2
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Statiscally speaking, Saints not that far off Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 "Statistics are for losers." Vince Lombardi AMEN! What matters is wins and losses. This team is VERY far off. Sole searching is something this team really needs to do. Along with benching some folks and trying new blood. The worst thing to hear from a coach or a player is, "WELL boys, we ALMOST won."

10-11-2007, 10:34 AM	#3
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Statiscally speaking, Saints not that far off Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 "Statistics are for losers." Vince Lombardi Vince Lombardi was speaking from a winners perch when he said it, and the numbers were on his side. Stats do matter, with the biggest stat being 0-4. 0-4 is simply the sum thats reached when the little numbers are all added together. I am a numbers guy because the numbers don't lie. I also believe that there are keys to winning and losing that don't show up in the books. Little things like causing QB hurries, good blocks to keep your man out of the play, sacrificing yourself to take out the lead blocker, forcing your opponent to your chosen direction, adjusting your route to catch a poorly thrown pass, etc... Our problem has been poor numbers and a poor effort. I think that if the effort improves, so will the numbers. Sean Payton has to demand a better effort, and orchestrate it all so that the effort leads to success on both sides of the ball.
	SaintSince67

10-11-2007, 10:56 AM	#4
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Statiscally speaking, Saints not that far off Originally Posted by darstep ...the numbers don't lie... We had the 11th ranked defense last year. IMO, that was a lie.

10-11-2007, 11:08 AM	#5
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Statiscally speaking, Saints not that far off Originally Posted by darstep Vince Lombardi was speaking from a winners perch when he said it, and the numbers were on his side. Stats do matter, with the biggest stat being 0-4. 0-4 is simply the sum thats reached when the little numbers are all added together. I am a numbers guy because the numbers don't lie. I also believe that there are keys to winning and losing that don't show up in the books. Little things like causing QB hurries, good blocks to keep your man out of the play, sacrificing yourself to take out the lead blocker, forcing your opponent to your chosen direction, adjusting your route to catch a poorly thrown pass, etc... Our problem has been poor numbers and a poor effort. I think that if the effort improves, so will the numbers. Sean Payton has to demand a better effort, and orchestrate it all so that the effort leads to success on both sides of the ball. 0-4 isn't a stat... its reality.

10-11-2007, 11:10 AM	#6
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Statiscally speaking, Saints not that far off Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 "Statistics are for losers." Vince Lombardi Such a perfect quote. If you recall last year we didn't post stats when we were winning but now that we are back to reality we post stats. -interesting. Lombardi and Berra 2 greatest quote makers of all time.

10-12-2007, 10:10 AM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Statiscally speaking, Saints not that far off Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 "Statistics are for losers." Vince Lombardi Indeed. Amen. Reverend!