Jeff Faine

Boogro · 10-25-2007, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Not the fans... the players and coaches.

So if a player goes to the Pro Bowl as an alternate... it doesn't mean they're a Pro Bowler. Hmmm... do I really need to elaborate?

Did I say anything about alternates going or actually suiting up to the Pro Bowl? No, I did not.

hagan714 · 10-25-2007, 09:55 PM

your right papz

Boogro · 10-25-2007, 10:07 PM

Productive Saints QB still looking for respect
By DARRELL FRY, Times Staff Writer
© St. Petersburg Times, published September 6, 2002

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They are going to come after Aaron Brooks on Sunday. If Warren Sapp, Simeon Rice and Anthony McFarland get their hands on the Saints quarterback, they are going to twist him into a pretzel.
They are going to come after Aaron Brooks on Sunday. If Warren Sapp, Simeon Rice and Anthony McFarland get their hands on the Saints quarterback, they are going to twist him into a pretzel.

But if they are out to hurt Brooks, they are wasting their time. That already has been done. Physically Brooks is okay. It's his feelings that are battered and bruised.

Instead of relishing his status as arguably the Saints' most productive quarterback ever, Brooks enters Sunday's opener against Tampa Bay soured by a protracted contract dispute and fan criticism that pops up every season.

If he weren't putting up big numbers season after season, Brooks would understand. But the Saints offense had two of its best efforts the past two seasons under Brooks, ranking in the league's top 10 both times.

Despite the team's losing record in 2001, Brooks was the only quarterback in the league to throw for more than 3,500 yards, rush for more than 350 and throw 26 touchdowns, earning an alternate spot on the NFC Pro Bowl squad. His 4,190 total yards are the most in team history.

Bucs: Productive Saints QB still looking for respect

you can read the rest of the article with the link provided. Notice how they said Brooks earned a spot on the NFC PB roster as an alternate? Did he suit up? No. Did he play? No
Was he a Pro Bowler? hell no.....case clased

Euphoria · 10-25-2007, 10:13 PM

YOU GO PAPZ

Way to take up the cause.

papz · 10-25-2007, 10:29 PM

Umm... case closed?

Did you read what I wrote?

So if a player goes to the Pro Bowl as an alternate... it doesn't mean they're a Pro Bowler. Hmmm... do I really need to elaborate?

So you proved me wrong where exactly?

And thanks for the article... I knew I wasn't mistaken when I said he was a Pro Bowl alternate in another thread.

Boogro · 10-25-2007, 10:32 PM

So you are saying all alternates "go" to the Pro Bowl?

papz · 10-25-2007, 10:37 PM

I'll try that one paragraph again since I seem to have misinterpreted what you meant...

Actually, I think they do select Pro Bowl alternates just in case someone drops out or has surgery or what not.

Duh.

I know it doesn't mean he is a Pro Bowler.

If he goes, isn't he a Pro Bowler?

I am wrong on one thing I have to admit... he wasn't a Pro Bowler. He was a Pro Bowl alternate. My mistake which essentially means he sucks.

So you are saying all alternates "go" to the Pro Bowl?

I don't know... did I say that? I don't see myself saying that anywhere... but, feel free to post it if you find it. I'll glady eat the crow.

Boogro · 10-25-2007, 10:42 PM

2001 Pro Bowl rosters - pro-football-reference.com

Check out the link, look for any year's Pro Bowl roster. The link is the 2001 roster, the same year Brooks was selected as an alternate. Now, they have four quarterbacks listed. Where is Brooks? Nowhere to be found. As I was saying earlier, just because a player was "selected" as an alternate, does not mean that he was a Pro Bowler. Plain and simple.

papz · 10-25-2007, 10:55 PM

Seeing how we were talking about how players were selected to the Pro Bowl and you responded with this...

Actually, I think they do select Pro Bowl alternates just in case someone drops out or has surgery or what not. I know it doesn't mean he is a Pro Bowler.

One would think you were responding to my thread... not you talking to yourself.

Misinterpretation. My bad... you're right. If a player is selected as an alternate, it doesn't mean they're a Pro Bowler. Though I didn't say they were either.

papz · 10-25-2007, 11:02 PM

I am wrong on one thing I have to admit... he wasn't a Pro Bowler. He was a Pro Bowl alternate.

Thanks I covered that already on page 5.

The point I was trying to make Papz, is that players that are selected to the Pro Bowl as alternates are not Pro Bowl players unless they go. That's all

Gotcha.

10-25-2007, 09:56 PM	#1
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Re: Jeff Faine Originally Posted by papz Not the fans... the players and coaches. So if a player goes to the Pro Bowl as an alternate... it doesn't mean they're a Pro Bowler. Hmmm... do I really need to elaborate? Did I say anything about alternates going or actually suiting up to the Pro Bowl? No, I did not.

10-25-2007, 09:55 PM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Jeff Faine your right papz

10-25-2007, 10:07 PM	#3
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Re: Jeff Faine Productive Saints QB still looking for respect By DARRELL FRY, Times Staff Writer © St. Petersburg Times, published September 6, 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They are going to come after Aaron Brooks on Sunday. If Warren Sapp, Simeon Rice and Anthony McFarland get their hands on the Saints quarterback, they are going to twist him into a pretzel. They are going to come after Aaron Brooks on Sunday. If Warren Sapp, Simeon Rice and Anthony McFarland get their hands on the Saints quarterback, they are going to twist him into a pretzel. But if they are out to hurt Brooks, they are wasting their time. That already has been done. Physically Brooks is okay. It's his feelings that are battered and bruised. Instead of relishing his status as arguably the Saints' most productive quarterback ever, Brooks enters Sunday's opener against Tampa Bay soured by a protracted contract dispute and fan criticism that pops up every season. If he weren't putting up big numbers season after season, Brooks would understand. But the Saints offense had two of its best efforts the past two seasons under Brooks, ranking in the league's top 10 both times. Despite the team's losing record in 2001, Brooks was the only quarterback in the league to throw for more than 3,500 yards, rush for more than 350 and throw 26 touchdowns, earning an alternate spot on the NFC Pro Bowl squad. His 4,190 total yards are the most in team history. Bucs: Productive Saints QB still looking for respect you can read the rest of the article with the link provided. Notice how they said Brooks earned a spot on the NFC PB roster as an alternate? Did he suit up? No. Did he play? No Was he a Pro Bowler? hell no.....case clased

10-25-2007, 10:13 PM	#4
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jeff Faine YOU GO PAPZ Way to take up the cause.

10-25-2007, 10:29 PM	#5
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: Jeff Faine Umm... case closed? Did you read what I wrote? So if a player goes to the Pro Bowl as an alternate... it doesn't mean they're a Pro Bowler. Hmmm... do I really need to elaborate? So you proved me wrong where exactly? And thanks for the article... I knew I wasn't mistaken when I said he was a Pro Bowl alternate in another thread.

10-25-2007, 10:32 PM	#6
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Re: Jeff Faine So you are saying all alternates "go" to the Pro Bowl?

10-25-2007, 10:37 PM	#7
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: Jeff Faine I'll try that one paragraph again since I seem to have misinterpreted what you meant... Actually, I think they do select Pro Bowl alternates just in case someone drops out or has surgery or what not. Duh. I know it doesn't mean he is a Pro Bowler. If he goes, isn't he a Pro Bowler? I am wrong on one thing I have to admit... he wasn't a Pro Bowler. He was a Pro Bowl alternate. My mistake which essentially means he sucks. So you are saying all alternates "go" to the Pro Bowl? I don't know... did I say that? I don't see myself saying that anywhere... but, feel free to post it if you find it. I'll glady eat the crow.

10-25-2007, 10:42 PM	#8
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Re: Jeff Faine 2001 Pro Bowl rosters - pro-football-reference.com Check out the link, look for any year's Pro Bowl roster. The link is the 2001 roster, the same year Brooks was selected as an alternate. Now, they have four quarterbacks listed. Where is Brooks? Nowhere to be found. As I was saying earlier, just because a player was "selected" as an alternate, does not mean that he was a Pro Bowler. Plain and simple.

10-25-2007, 10:55 PM	#9
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: Jeff Faine Seeing how we were talking about how players were selected to the Pro Bowl and you responded with this... Actually, I think they do select Pro Bowl alternates just in case someone drops out or has surgery or what not. I know it doesn't mean he is a Pro Bowler. One would think you were responding to my thread... not you talking to yourself. Misinterpretation. My bad... you're right. If a player is selected as an alternate, it doesn't mean they're a Pro Bowler. Though I didn't say they were either.
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10-25-2007, 11:02 PM	#10
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: Jeff Faine I am wrong on one thing I have to admit... he wasn't a Pro Bowler. He was a Pro Bowl alternate. Thanks I covered that already on page 5. The point I was trying to make Papz, is that players that are selected to the Pro Bowl as alternates are not Pro Bowl players unless they go. That's all Gotcha.

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