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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Euphoria WhoDat you got good points but our running game is injured. Deuce can make the line look good without him we aren't that great up to middle. To be a good running team you have to ...
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10-29-2007, 09:31 PM | #21 |
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Re: Is There a Lawsuit that prohibits the Saints from running the ball
Originally Posted by Euphoria
====== Deuce is injured but our running game has been grounded. I will agree our line is not a great run blocking Line. I can't give Payton too much credit when he is doing the same damn things he was last year, I just hope he doesn't continue to do it to our detriment. We do not know if we have the RB to pound the ball yet. For goodness sakes look at M JOnes-Drew, if he can pound it so can PT. I agree with our record what it is you have to be aggressive, but if we plan on doing anything other making a good showing in the regular season then we need to work on the run game. What game better to work on the run game than towards the end of this past game? The Saints have not had a better opportunity to work on the run game than they had last week. We have a good left side of the line, maybe not directly up the middle, but run between the LG and LT. Or at least try it |
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10-30-2007, 08:18 AM | #22 |
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Re: Is There a Lawsuit that prohibits the Saints from running the ball
Originally Posted by WhoDatQB
Yeah! What he said!
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10-30-2007, 08:55 AM | #23 |
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Re: Is There a Lawsuit that prohibits the Saints from running the ball
Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL
Well you won't have to be Euph by yourself on this one. This was the problem when Duece was healthy - 9-10 carries a game when averaging 4.3. If we commit to running the ball, protecting Drew Brees in the pocket is easy. We actually showed signs of getting to the run and seems that we've backed off. If we can get a push early in the game, we will get some breakouts, and then we are pass blocking defenders that are on the heels and not on their toes. Hasn't meant much with our recent opponents, but our pass-pass-pass day of reconning is coming. Against good defenses, that have a decent pass rush, we have GOT to run the ball. The key to running Bush, Stecker, and Thomas, given their size and weight, is to have them play off of the lead of Karney. He will make their job easy. We know that there will be at least ONE linebacker that won't be in on the tackle. Karney also works well in pass protection, picking up the blitz, and allowing the other back to sneak out as a safety valve with linebacker coverage. So what! we have one less tightend - Karney gives us options - and that's what Payton/Brees likes - good options. Running the ball will continue to allow Brees to plant his feet in the pocket and have the kind of success and results that we have seen the past three weeks. Writing off the run will get us right back to the darkside.
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10-30-2007, 09:31 AM | #24 |
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Re: Is There a Lawsuit that prohibits the Saints from running the ball
Everything you said is true, but I don't think SP wrote off the run. When we got up by 2 TD's, the 49ers started looking for us to run and play keep-away. They crowded the line, making it real hard to run on them. Besides that, Reggie got nicked. I'm sure SP would have liked to run when up by 2-3 TD's. If he had a QB besides Brees, he probably would have run more. |
10-30-2007, 11:36 AM | #25 |
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Re: Is There a Lawsuit that prohibits the Saints from running the ball
Originally Posted by darstep
Yeah! What he said too!
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10-30-2007, 02:21 PM | #26 |
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Re: Is There a Lawsuit that prohibits the Saints from running the ball
Originally Posted by WhoDatQB
Well, looking at the schedule there is only 1 game remaining outdoors that could possibly be in the 30's and that would be the last game aginst Chicago.
After that the only possibilities would be playoffs at Giants or Packers. So just put up the points and go from there. |
10-30-2007, 06:37 PM | #27 |
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10-30-2007, 07:42 PM | #28 |
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Re: Is There a Lawsuit that prohibits the Saints from running the ball
All that I am saying is that we are lop-sided, and its going to bite us. We can't wait until we get in a situation and HOPE that we can run the ball. Just like every other weapon in our arsenal, we've got to keep "running the ball" well oiled and battle tested. Passing the ball takes good timing. That comes from repetition - QB to each receiver in their standard routes. That spurs confidence in both, each knowing that the receiver and the ball will be in the same place - on time. Running the ball is not much different. Timing! - runners picking and hitting the holes (on time) and blocker holding the blocks to allow it. Game conditions can't be totally paralleled in practice sessions. We had a golden opp to actually improve/mold/perfect our running game this past week. PierreT could have gotten some work that will pay dividends when we do have to call on him in the future, and we will. We can't let it rust, then cry when it doesn't fire.
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