Jason David proves everyone wrong!

papz · 11-15-2007, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Ok now your posts are for humor right?

A little of both.

I totally am well aware of Davids errors and have pointed them out... are you not reading those portions?

If you could read (and most importantly comprehend), I've acknowledged that you've pointed out his flaws.

David is playing better than Thomas and Craft, period. The past is VERY relevant or David wouldn't be in a Saints uniform now would he, if Thomas and Craft were better David would be else where. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if they were better, since he's not here right

It's not relevant. Just because Craft played poorly in the past, it doesn't mean he's doomed for failure. Just because David has had success in the past, it doesn't mean he can't play worse.

I know feel as dumb as a stump.

WhoDat205 · 11-15-2007, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Who are we starting at QB this week? I hope not a 4-5 QB.

Saying start Palko would be a more relevant analogy, but I realize your sarcasm. However, QB and CB are totally different and everyone knows that Brees is a Pro Bowl caliber QB. David has done nothing to merit a 2nd, 3rd, 4th...chance. He also hasn't played a single game where you said, wow! that was an awesome performance....ever. Regardless of his struggle early on this season or last week, Brees is one of the ten best QBs in the league. David is medicore at best.

If our QB were Cleo Lemon and we were 0-9, then I would be calling for Kolb or whoever MIA's backup is. There comes a point when you gotta say that the Jason David experiment was a failure and move on.

Bringing this full circle, Young might take a dent to his confidence, but there are things that a coordinator can do to insuate him. Treat it like a preseason battle. Let him and David have equal reps at the 2 spot. Worst case scenario, they both suck and we're in the same situation. Best case, Young plays well or David has a fire lit under his butt.

Euphoria · 11-15-2007, 06:15 PM

I can't take anything away from yall's posts. All reasonable... and I can see merit in them. It doesn't change the fact that we are not in pre-season and we are in a race for the division title. The best player at that position plays no matter what. If he has a bad game, then he has a bad game. You still go with your best player.

I can see going with Young later in the season depending on how things go from here but not now. I haven't seen anything in him when he is on the field to say he's ready -nothing. Craft, hasn't showed me he's better than David so far either.

I'll tell yall this much give me 2-3 more weeks and I'll change my mind but until then... bare with me on David.

therchac · 11-16-2007, 09:07 AM

I am with you guys all the way. I beleive in sticking with your players and showing them that you beleive in them and hope that they will turn around and show you something in return. But Jee WIZ, get him out of there. This statement failed for him after the second game of the season. Got to go. We need changes for the rest of the season if we want to contend for NFC south.

11-15-2007, 05:32 PM	#51
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong! Originally Posted by Euphoria Ok now your posts are for humor right? A little of both. I totally am well aware of Davids errors and have pointed them out... are you not reading those portions? If you could read (and most importantly comprehend), I've acknowledged that you've pointed out his flaws. David is playing better than Thomas and Craft, period. The past is VERY relevant or David wouldn't be in a Saints uniform now would he, if Thomas and Craft were better David would be else where. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if they were better, since he's not here right It's not relevant. Just because Craft played poorly in the past, it doesn't mean he's doomed for failure. Just because David has had success in the past, it doesn't mean he can't play worse. I know feel as dumb as a stump.

11-15-2007, 05:37 PM	#52
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong! Originally Posted by Euphoria Who are we starting at QB this week? I hope not a 4-5 QB. Saying start Palko would be a more relevant analogy, but I realize your sarcasm. However, QB and CB are totally different and everyone knows that Brees is a Pro Bowl caliber QB. David has done nothing to merit a 2nd, 3rd, 4th...chance. He also hasn't played a single game where you said, wow! that was an awesome performance....ever. Regardless of his struggle early on this season or last week, Brees is one of the ten best QBs in the league. David is medicore at best. If our QB were Cleo Lemon and we were 0-9, then I would be calling for Kolb or whoever MIA's backup is. There comes a point when you gotta say that the Jason David experiment was a failure and move on. Bringing this full circle, Young might take a dent to his confidence, but there are things that a coordinator can do to insuate him. Treat it like a preseason battle. Let him and David have equal reps at the 2 spot. Worst case scenario, they both suck and we're in the same situation. Best case, Young plays well or David has a fire lit under his butt.
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11-15-2007, 06:15 PM	#53
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong! I can't take anything away from yall's posts. All reasonable... and I can see merit in them. It doesn't change the fact that we are not in pre-season and we are in a race for the division title. The best player at that position plays no matter what. If he has a bad game, then he has a bad game. You still go with your best player. I can see going with Young later in the season depending on how things go from here but not now. I haven't seen anything in him when he is on the field to say he's ready -nothing. Craft, hasn't showed me he's better than David so far either. I'll tell yall this much give me 2-3 more weeks and I'll change my mind but until then... bare with me on David.
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11-16-2007, 09:07 AM	#54
therchac Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2	Re: Jason David proves everyone wrong! I am with you guys all the way. I beleive in sticking with your players and showing them that you beleive in them and hope that they will turn around and show you something in return. But Jee WIZ, get him out of there. This statement failed for him after the second game of the season. Got to go. We need changes for the rest of the season if we want to contend for NFC south.
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