GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb

papz · 11-26-2007, 01:08 PM

It's amazing how one can look at a certain area on the line all game long and be completely oblivious to Nesbit's blocking.

Clear agenda... typical. No more words need to be wasted.

JOESAM2002 · 11-26-2007, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

minus Jeff Faine. He blew some key blocks.

And he made some too.

Euphoria · 11-26-2007, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

I actually saw him block his man into making a tackle. Would have been better if he would have let him go.

See I am glad someone else is seeing what I have been seeing. Did you see the one where he had his choice of 3 DB's and some how he managed to go right between them as they stood there waiting for the RB to come to them to be tackled. AMAZING they give this guy uniform.

WhoDatQB · 11-26-2007, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

See I am glad someone else is seeing what I have been seeing. Did you see the one where he had his choice of 3 DB's and some how he managed to go right between them as they stood there waiting for the RB to come to them to be tackled. AMAZING they give this guy uniform.

I saw that play and the blocking the man into a tackle. Not to mention another screen pass that he blew. While not all of the game was this horrible he is far from consistent, and his bads are far more damaging than his goods are in helping.

I have been critical of the offensive line as well so far this season. I think Goodwin performed better than Faine, his bad plays are far better than Faine's, and I never once saw him go between DB's or LB's allowing them to make a tackle as I have seen Faine do at least three times a game.

Euphoria · 11-26-2007, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDatQB

I saw that play and the blocking the man into a tackle. Not to mention another screen pass that he blew. While not all of the game was this horrible he is far from consistent, and his bads are far more damaging than his goods are in helping.

I have been critical of the offensive line as well so far this season. I think Goodwin performed better than Faine, his bad plays are far better than Faine's, and I never once saw him go between DB's or LB's allowing them to make a tackle as I have seen Faine do at least three times a game.

OMG... FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT - THANK YOU! I TOTALLY AGREE 100 perect.
WHODAT - YOU RULE.

WhoDat205 · 11-26-2007, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by jagcatdad

Congrats Euphoria for noticing the Big Guys! What makes your notice even better is the fact that Stinch hyper extended his elbow in the first quarter. Matter of fact, it was so bad that his backup was warming up to go in on the next series. With a brace, a shot and a little rest, he decided to try it and you see the results.
Congratualtions to all the Big Guys who continue to labor in obscurity!

I did not know that...you're well informed.

papz · 11-26-2007, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

OMG... FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT - THANK YOU! I TOTALLY AGREE 100 perect.
WHODAT - YOU RULE.

So if you agree with him 100%, are you retracting that you think he's completely useless, horrible, and does not deserve to even be wearing a uniform? Because that's what you said... not what he said.

Cause from what I've read, WhoDatQB is saying Faine does do some good things but he's very inconsistent. His good does not outweigh the bad and Goodwin might be the better option.

Ooops I did it again.

If Goodwin gets another shot and proves to be consistent, I would not oppose to changing centers. Hopefully Faine will pick up his game and we'll continue to rack up more wins.

BoudinSandwich · 11-26-2007, 05:24 PM

Forgive me for sounding like Madden again, but...

Better playcalling, keeping the defense on their toes and unable to predict what the offense is going to do, will make an offensive lineman's job much, MUCH easier.

Euphoria · 11-26-2007, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by papz

So if you agree with him 100%, are you retracting that you think he's completely useless, horrible, and does not deserve to even be wearing a uniform? Because that's what you said... not what he said.

Cause from what I've read, WhoDatQB is saying Faine does do some good things but he's very inconsistent. His good does not outweigh the bad and Goodwin might be the better option.

Ooops I did it again.

If Goodwin gets another shot and proves to be consistent, I would not oppose to changing centers. Hopefully Faine will pick up his game and we'll continue to rack up more wins.

I agree that Goodwin is a better option. I agree on the HORRIBLE play of Faine and pointed out the same mis-cues. Not only those but there were a few others as well. There was no outstanding plays that I can find that would outweigh the bad plays.

What I read out of Whodats post is that the other plays were not as horrible as those that were mentioned but didn't say they were any good either. I looked at the game again and can't point to anything that stood out as good. Hiding behind the guards as they were pass blocking isn't blocking either! When you are taught to block the inside rush first and then look to the outside and he didn't do that.

So Yes I can agree with Whodat. If I was to retract anything I'd retract the consistancy part... Faine plays very consistant, consistantly BAD.

If he doesn't something good I'll point it out just like I have done Brown in past weeks and Stinchcomb this week. OUTSTANDING game. Faine hasn't shown me anything.

Euphoria · 11-26-2007, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by OldiesDJ

Forgive me for sounding like Madden again, but...

Better playcalling, keeping the defense on their toes and unable to predict what the offense is going to do, will make an offensive lineman's job much, MUCH easier.

When you have an offensive line who can dominate a top D linemen makes the rest of the offense a lot better. I don't care who you have at other positions if your line blocks your offense will look great. If they don't then Brees, bush and whomever on Offense will look like retards.

11-26-2007, 01:08 PM	#11
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb It's amazing how one can look at a certain area on the line all game long and be completely oblivious to Nesbit's blocking. Clear agenda... typical. No more words need to be wasted.

11-26-2007, 01:41 PM	#12
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb Originally Posted by Euphoria minus Jeff Faine. He blew some key blocks. And he made some too.

11-26-2007, 01:49 PM	#13
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb Originally Posted by Budsdrinker I actually saw him block his man into making a tackle. Would have been better if he would have let him go. See I am glad someone else is seeing what I have been seeing. Did you see the one where he had his choice of 3 DB's and some how he managed to go right between them as they stood there waiting for the RB to come to them to be tackled. AMAZING they give this guy uniform.

11-26-2007, 04:33 PM	#14
WhoDatQB Boondock Saint Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: F***ing Atlanta Posts: 322	Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb Originally Posted by Euphoria See I am glad someone else is seeing what I have been seeing. Did you see the one where he had his choice of 3 DB's and some how he managed to go right between them as they stood there waiting for the RB to come to them to be tackled. AMAZING they give this guy uniform. I saw that play and the blocking the man into a tackle. Not to mention another screen pass that he blew. While not all of the game was this horrible he is far from consistent, and his bads are far more damaging than his goods are in helping. I have been critical of the offensive line as well so far this season. I think Goodwin performed better than Faine, his bad plays are far better than Faine's, and I never once saw him go between DB's or LB's allowing them to make a tackle as I have seen Faine do at least three times a game.

11-26-2007, 04:40 PM	#15
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb Originally Posted by WhoDatQB I saw that play and the blocking the man into a tackle. Not to mention another screen pass that he blew. While not all of the game was this horrible he is far from consistent, and his bads are far more damaging than his goods are in helping. I have been critical of the offensive line as well so far this season. I think Goodwin performed better than Faine, his bad plays are far better than Faine's, and I never once saw him go between DB's or LB's allowing them to make a tackle as I have seen Faine do at least three times a game. OMG... FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT - THANK YOU! I TOTALLY AGREE 100 perect. WHODAT - YOU RULE.

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11-26-2007, 05:02 PM	#16
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: What you don't know! Originally Posted by jagcatdad Congrats Euphoria for noticing the Big Guys! What makes your notice even better is the fact that Stinch hyper extended his elbow in the first quarter. Matter of fact, it was so bad that his backup was warming up to go in on the next series. With a brace, a shot and a little rest, he decided to try it and you see the results. Congratualtions to all the Big Guys who continue to labor in obscurity! I did not know that...you're well informed.

11-26-2007, 05:23 PM	#17
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb Originally Posted by Euphoria OMG... FINALLY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT - THANK YOU! I TOTALLY AGREE 100 perect. WHODAT - YOU RULE. So if you agree with him 100%, are you retracting that you think he's completely useless, horrible, and does not deserve to even be wearing a uniform? Because that's what you said... not what he said. Cause from what I've read, WhoDatQB is saying Faine does do some good things but he's very inconsistent. His good does not outweigh the bad and Goodwin might be the better option. Ooops I did it again. If Goodwin gets another shot and proves to be consistent, I would not oppose to changing centers. Hopefully Faine will pick up his game and we'll continue to rack up more wins.
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11-26-2007, 05:24 PM	#18
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb Forgive me for sounding like Madden again, but... Better playcalling, keeping the defense on their toes and unable to predict what the offense is going to do, will make an offensive lineman's job much, MUCH easier.

11-26-2007, 06:05 PM	#19
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb Originally Posted by papz So if you agree with him 100%, are you retracting that you think he's completely useless, horrible, and does not deserve to even be wearing a uniform? Because that's what you said... not what he said. Cause from what I've read, WhoDatQB is saying Faine does do some good things but he's very inconsistent. His good does not outweigh the bad and Goodwin might be the better option. Ooops I did it again. If Goodwin gets another shot and proves to be consistent, I would not oppose to changing centers. Hopefully Faine will pick up his game and we'll continue to rack up more wins. I agree that Goodwin is a better option. I agree on the HORRIBLE play of Faine and pointed out the same mis-cues. Not only those but there were a few others as well. There was no outstanding plays that I can find that would outweigh the bad plays. What I read out of Whodats post is that the other plays were not as horrible as those that were mentioned but didn't say they were any good either. I looked at the game again and can't point to anything that stood out as good. Hiding behind the guards as they were pass blocking isn't blocking either! When you are taught to block the inside rush first and then look to the outside and he didn't do that. So Yes I can agree with Whodat. If I was to retract anything I'd retract the consistancy part... Faine plays very consistant, consistantly BAD. If he doesn't something good I'll point it out just like I have done Brown in past weeks and Stinchcomb this week. OUTSTANDING game. Faine hasn't shown me anything.
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11-26-2007, 06:06 PM	#20
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: GAME BALL: Jonathan Stinchcomb Originally Posted by OldiesDJ Forgive me for sounding like Madden again, but... Better playcalling, keeping the defense on their toes and unable to predict what the offense is going to do, will make an offensive lineman's job much, MUCH easier. When you have an offensive line who can dominate a top D linemen makes the rest of the offense a lot better. I don't care who you have at other positions if your line blocks your offense will look great. If they don't then Brees, bush and whomever on Offense will look like retards.