Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David

Haps Biggest Fan · 12-27-2007, 06:43 PM

I present to the court of public opinion my evidence that the Saints still don't know how to make good draft picks and sign good free agents.

Comments?

LordOfEntropy · 12-27-2007, 06:58 PM

Don't forget Pittman. Or even better - Sullivan.

andersen · 12-27-2007, 08:29 PM

I got blasted for saying Meachum was in bust in week 4, him needing time, yada, yada, yada and it takes a few years to make a good WR. That said, I hold my tongue until I see him on the field in a regular season game.
David, however, I said was a bust the first week against Indy and he hasn't improved or learned this defense either.
Pittman: I thought PT was better and we still have something there. I still like him and hope he gets a chance against da'bears.
Sullivan: He just looked fat and stupid. What can I say.

Tobias-Reiper · 12-27-2007, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Haps Biggest Fan

I present to the court of public opinion my evidence that the Saints still don't know how to make good draft picks and sign good free agents.

Comments?

.. what's this, amateur hour?

There are other boards that play these games..

Haps Biggest Fan · 12-27-2007, 10:35 PM

FORTY YEARS OF INEPTITUDE AND THE BEAT GOES ON!!

Anybody remember Joe Don Looney?

How about Kevin Hardy?

Look them up on the internet! You'll find further evidence of just how good the Saints scouts and front office have always been at bringing in NFL talent to your NEW -- ORLEANS -- SAINTS !

Haps Biggest Fan · 12-27-2007, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

.. what's this, amateur hour?

There are other boards that play these games..

What games? I'm opening a discussion. If you don't have anything to add, then, that's fine.

LordOfEntropy · 12-28-2007, 08:07 AM

It's getting better. Brees was a great acquisition. Colston is a shining glory. There's room for improvement, but it's getting better than the past.

The Sullivan pick still pisses me off. TWO first round picks for that flop. Not just one.

hagan714 · 12-28-2007, 08:17 AM

Last year we were gods and now we are the pooh pooh brain trust?
If the draft was that great why in the world would you think the new guys would start right away? Were you wrong in the first place? Meach has a bum knee. ok I have to swallow that one. But for the money he got he better be ready next year. I do not care how dense you might be a year is plenty of time to learn your job. As for the #4 pick we got burned a bit. That happens. It happens to all the teams. So we found a FA gem that save us cap room and is a better player. Sound like a silver lining is there, somewhere, if you just look hard enough. I guess the coaches were right. We did need another RB for 2007.
No I am not doing near the David bit. Never liked it. But Drew was ok
Yes we like every team in the NFL have draft choices that are totally a bust. Ok the saints have way more than share but this is a new time. Can we try to just get along and agree that we disagree? NOT bring it amateur hour is over
LOL fickle fans are always fun. LOL

Budsdrinker · 12-28-2007, 08:27 AM

The Saints aren't the only team that has made mistakes in the draft. Can you say Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf. Lots of teams make mistakes in the draft. Whether it's the scouting or the fact that it's that much harder in the NFL then college for some players who knows. But the one thing to remember is even though the 2007 draft and free agency pickups wasn't a success, the Saints did try to upgrade some weaknesses. Maybe not in all the right places but they did try. Yes I know JD sucks but who did he replace? Fred blow by you Thomas. Everyone called for a replacement and the Saints responded just not very well. Last year other than Colston the receiver cord was very inconsistent, Meachum looked good at Tennessee. We still don't know how he'll be in the NFL but I'm willing to give him until next year. Take a look at the RB situation right now. Moving up to pick Pittman wasn't that bad of a move until the coaches found out undrafted RB Pierre Thomas was a better runner. My point being yes there seems to be a problem in evaluating talent but I think it is widespread in the NFL not just in New Orleans. We just love football that much that it is that much more noticeable to us. The NFL is a business and I'm willing to bet these scouts are getting kick backs from player's agents to put in a good word or two to the GMs and the people who make the decisions on which players to pick up. Here's to a better offseason in 2008. Happy New Year to all of you.

saintsfan1976 · 12-28-2007, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

The Saints aren't the only team that has made mistakes in the draft. Can you say Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf. Lots of teams make mistakes in the draft. Whether it's the scouting or the fact that it's that much harder in the NFL then college for some players who knows. But the one thing to remember is even though the 2007 draft and free agency pickups wasn't a success, the Saints did try to upgrade some weaknesses. Maybe not in all the right places but they did try. Yes I know JD sucks but who did he replace? Fred blow by you Thomas. Everyone called for a replacement and the Saints responded just not very well. Last year other than Colston the receiver cord was very inconsistent, Meachum looked good at Tennessee. We still don't know how he'll be in the NFL but I'm willing to give him until next year. Take a look at the RB situation right now. Moving up to pick Pittman wasn't that bad of a move until the coaches found out undrafted RB Pierre Thomas was a better runner. My point being yes there seems to be a problem in evaluating talent but I think it is widespread in the NFL not just in New Orleans. We just love football that much that it is that much more noticeable to us. The NFL is a business and I'm willing to bet these scouts are getting kick backs from player's agents to put in a good word or two to the GMs and the people who make the decisions on which players to pick up. Here's to a better offseason in 2008. Happy New Year to all of you.

No, it's not just just the Saints or the NFL... From sports to business to stocks to government - Busts are widespread.

No matter how many timers, yard sticks and weights you use... we still can't measure the future!

12-27-2007, 06:43 PM	#1
Haps Biggest Fan Fan Since 1967 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 148	Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David I present to the court of public opinion my evidence that the Saints still don't know how to make good draft picks and sign good free agents. Comments?

12-27-2007, 06:58 PM	#2
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David Don't forget Pittman. Or even better - Sullivan.

12-27-2007, 08:29 PM	#3
andersen With an "E" Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 429	Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David I got blasted for saying Meachum was in bust in week 4, him needing time, yada, yada, yada and it takes a few years to make a good WR. That said, I hold my tongue until I see him on the field in a regular season game. David, however, I said was a bust the first week against Indy and he hasn't improved or learned this defense either. Pittman: I thought PT was better and we still have something there. I still like him and hope he gets a chance against da'bears. Sullivan: He just looked fat and stupid. What can I say.
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12-27-2007, 10:35 PM	#5
Haps Biggest Fan Fan Since 1967 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 148	Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David FORTY YEARS OF INEPTITUDE AND THE BEAT GOES ON!! Anybody remember Joe Don Looney? How about Kevin Hardy? Look them up on the internet! You'll find further evidence of just how good the Saints scouts and front office have always been at bringing in NFL talent to your NEW -- ORLEANS -- SAINTS !

12-27-2007, 10:37 PM	#6
Haps Biggest Fan Fan Since 1967 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 148	Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper .. what's this, amateur hour? There are other boards that play these games.. What games? I'm opening a discussion. If you don't have anything to add, then, that's fine.

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12-27-2007, 08:29 PM	#4
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David Originally Posted by Haps Biggest Fan I present to the court of public opinion my evidence that the Saints still don't know how to make good draft picks and sign good free agents. Comments? .. what's this, amateur hour? There are other boards that play these games..

12-28-2007, 08:07 AM	#7
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David It's getting better. Brees was a great acquisition. Colston is a shining glory. There's room for improvement, but it's getting better than the past. The Sullivan pick still pisses me off. TWO first round picks for that flop. Not just one.

12-28-2007, 08:17 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David Last year we were gods and now we are the pooh pooh brain trust? If the draft was that great why in the world would you think the new guys would start right away? Were you wrong in the first place? Meach has a bum knee. ok I have to swallow that one. But for the money he got he better be ready next year. I do not care how dense you might be a year is plenty of time to learn your job. As for the #4 pick we got burned a bit. That happens. It happens to all the teams. So we found a FA gem that save us cap room and is a better player. Sound like a silver lining is there, somewhere, if you just look hard enough. I guess the coaches were right. We did need another RB for 2007. No I am not doing near the David bit. Never liked it. But Drew was ok Yes we like every team in the NFL have draft choices that are totally a bust. Ok the saints have way more than share but this is a new time. Can we try to just get along and agree that we disagree? NOT bring it amateur hour is over LOL fickle fans are always fun. LOL
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12-28-2007, 08:27 AM	#9
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David The Saints aren't the only team that has made mistakes in the draft. Can you say Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf. Lots of teams make mistakes in the draft. Whether it's the scouting or the fact that it's that much harder in the NFL then college for some players who knows. But the one thing to remember is even though the 2007 draft and free agency pickups wasn't a success, the Saints did try to upgrade some weaknesses. Maybe not in all the right places but they did try. Yes I know JD sucks but who did he replace? Fred blow by you Thomas. Everyone called for a replacement and the Saints responded just not very well. Last year other than Colston the receiver cord was very inconsistent, Meachum looked good at Tennessee. We still don't know how he'll be in the NFL but I'm willing to give him until next year. Take a look at the RB situation right now. Moving up to pick Pittman wasn't that bad of a move until the coaches found out undrafted RB Pierre Thomas was a better runner. My point being yes there seems to be a problem in evaluating talent but I think it is widespread in the NFL not just in New Orleans. We just love football that much that it is that much more noticeable to us. The NFL is a business and I'm willing to bet these scouts are getting kick backs from player's agents to put in a good word or two to the GMs and the people who make the decisions on which players to pick up. Here's to a better offseason in 2008. Happy New Year to all of you.

12-28-2007, 09:12 AM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,818 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David Originally Posted by Budsdrinker The Saints aren't the only team that has made mistakes in the draft. Can you say Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf. Lots of teams make mistakes in the draft. Whether it's the scouting or the fact that it's that much harder in the NFL then college for some players who knows. But the one thing to remember is even though the 2007 draft and free agency pickups wasn't a success, the Saints did try to upgrade some weaknesses. Maybe not in all the right places but they did try. Yes I know JD sucks but who did he replace? Fred blow by you Thomas. Everyone called for a replacement and the Saints responded just not very well. Last year other than Colston the receiver cord was very inconsistent, Meachum looked good at Tennessee. We still don't know how he'll be in the NFL but I'm willing to give him until next year. Take a look at the RB situation right now. Moving up to pick Pittman wasn't that bad of a move until the coaches found out undrafted RB Pierre Thomas was a better runner. My point being yes there seems to be a problem in evaluating talent but I think it is widespread in the NFL not just in New Orleans. We just love football that much that it is that much more noticeable to us. The NFL is a business and I'm willing to bet these scouts are getting kick backs from player's agents to put in a good word or two to the GMs and the people who make the decisions on which players to pick up. Here's to a better offseason in 2008. Happy New Year to all of you. No, it's not just just the Saints or the NFL... From sports to business to stocks to government - Busts are widespread. No matter how many timers, yard sticks and weights you use... we still can't measure the future!