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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; he following selections were made with drafts from 1985 through 2003. Information provided includes the school they attended, the team that selected them and in what draft they were taken. The players draft position overall can be seen in parenthesis. ...
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12-29-2007, 07:37 AM | #21 |
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Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David
he following selections were made with drafts from 1985 through 2003. Information provided includes the school they attended, the team that selected them and in what draft they were taken. The players draft position overall can be seen in parenthesis.
First Team QB Ryan Leaf (2) Washington State-San Diego Chargers-1998 RB Blair Thomas (2) Penn State-New York Jets-1990 WR Desmond Howard(4) Michigan-Washington Redskins-1992 TE Ricky Dudley(9) Ohio State-Houston Oilers-1996 OT Tony Mandarich(2) Michigan State-Green Bay Packers-1989 OG Eugene Chung(13) Virginia Tech-New England Patriots-1992 DE Aundray Bruce(1) Auburn-Atlanta Falcons-1988 DT Steve Emtman(1) Washington-Indianapolis Colts-1992 LB Brian Bosworth(2) Oklahoma-Seattle Seahawks-1987 CB Bruce Pickens(3) Nebraska-Atlanta Falcons-1991 S Patrick Bates (12) Texas A&M-Los Angeles Raiders-1993 Second Team QB Heath Schuler (3) Tennessee-Washington Redskins-1994 RB Lawrence Philips (6) Nebraska-St. Louis Rams-1995 WR Michael Westbrook (4) Colorado-Washington Redskins-1995 TE David LaFluer(22) LSU-Dallas Cowboys-1997 OT Antoine Davis(8) Tennessee-Philadelphia Eagles-1991 OG Brian Jozwiak(7) West Virginia-Kansas City Chiefs-1986 DE Andre Wadsworth(3) Florida State-Arizona Cardinals-1998 DT Dimitrius Underwood(29) Michigan State-MinnesotaVikings-1999 LB Percy Snow(13) Michigan State-Kansas City Chiefs-1990 CB Michael Booker(11) Nebraska-Atlanta Flacons-1997 S Shaun Williams(24) UCLA-New York Giants-1998 Not a saint in the group |
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12-29-2007, 09:39 AM | #22 |
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Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David
Originally Posted by hagan714
Agreed all the way around. That's why I hope to see a solid Defensive draft pick in addition to a key defensive FA (LB CB)
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12-29-2007, 12:46 PM | #23 |
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Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David
What about Oaklands #1 selection this year DaMarcus Russell. After a long hold out this offseason he was all but useless to them this year. Do you label him a bust? Do you give him time to learn the position and the speed of the NFL? What were his numbers last week 3 out of 10 and a couple picks? That seems like a bust I would cut him. I'm going to hold any judgement on Meachem TILL HE ACTUALLY PLAYS.
As for B the prosecutor drops the case. He sucks he cant understand the man he lines up across from is his responsibility. It is his job to cover the wr and either he cant do or he cant resist the temptation to peek in the backfield. Whatever the problem I dont think it is fixable. This was a match fit for this team and/or scheme. Please suit up Fred Thomas. |
12-29-2007, 06:16 PM | #24 |
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Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David
Originally Posted by dasaints26
I'm not judging Meachem at all. I am indeed passing judgment on a FO that uses its first pick to take a WR that doesn't play a down all year.
If you think that comparing Meachem, a WR, to a rookie QB, Russel, is a good comparison, and excuses the Saints FO, then, I have no further comments for you. Everybody knows that many rookie QBs take a year to learn . . . but a WR?? Not so often . . . |
12-29-2007, 06:25 PM | #25 |
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Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David
My main point is that we, as Saints fans, should try to let the FO know that we are watching their moves, and, we expect them to do a GREAT job, not just an average job.
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12-29-2007, 08:19 PM | #26 |
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Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David
No I am not excusing the FO. I am always on Mickey "the Mouse" Loomis's case. But I will admit when they have done something right. The OL is built for the west coast. Complete turn over and they did a great job so far. So Hooah to them.
On the defensive side they have been patching a unit together. A ton of one and two year contracts. A bunch of top flight backups and thats it. They have found a couple of starters on the way. Now if they duplicate the effort when we make the defensive push it will be amazing. They have not really applied the push yet. Next year I expect to see more than a few new faces on that side of the ball. I give them 2 more years to get a unit together and finish of the offense side. Then I will judge. |
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12-29-2007, 09:16 PM | #27 |
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Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David
Originally Posted by hagan714
Two more years of cushion for this FO seems very generous. Are you sure that it's warranted?
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12-29-2007, 10:26 PM | #28 |
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Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David
Warranted? Yes, I think it is. Haz was given more time than that. Four years to rebuild a team is reasonable - very reasonable.
If Hagan is right, then we're in for a real treat in two years time. But we must also remember that the clock is ticking. Brees won't be in his prime forever. And since Brees is our best shot for a Superbowl win (IMO), we must move quickly to get a supporting cast around him. Quickly. It must start happening - NOW. |
12-30-2007, 12:15 AM | #29 |
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Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David
If we get so luck as in 2006 to rebuild the defense we will be there a year early. But that does not happen often. The saints D did much better against the run and the secondary will get a couple of new faces. At least 4 IMO. 2 CB and a S. The 4th will be a hybrid. Then some youth at LB and the line. Lets see in may.
Remember Haz went backward and so far we are going forward. I am looking for a team that wins more than one super bowl ring |
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12-30-2007, 12:25 AM | #30 |
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Re: Exhibit A: Meachem; Exhibit B:David
shoot, I'll take the one ring.
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