Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach

QBREES9 · 01-23-2008, 05:37 PM

Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach - Sports - NOLA.com

Orgeron spent seven seasons at Southern Cal, where he earned a reputation as one of the top defensive line coaches and one of the top recruiters in the country. He has also coached at Miami, Syracuse, Arkansas and Nicholls State. He began his coaching career as a graduate assistant at Northwestern State, then at McNeese State.

"His reputation precedes him," Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis said. "He's a fantastic coach. He's done a great job at every place that he's been. And we got so many recommendations from people that have worked with him and played for him, that it was kind of overwhelming to be honest with you."

SapperSaint · 01-24-2008, 07:06 AM

No comment other than what I've already said about this. Well, I guess we will just have to wait and see. I hope I have to eat some crow on this.

SapperSaint · 01-24-2008, 09:56 AM

WHOA!

You seem to be on a negative roll today Missile. I like it, keep the fire burning.

Crusader · 01-24-2008, 10:03 AM

I don't see how a guy not being a good head coach automaticly disqualifies him from being a good position coach. Look att Haslett, he sucked as a HC but is a pretty good LB coach.

Tobias-Reiper · 01-24-2008, 11:51 AM

I agree with Crusader's sentiment. I don't see how not succeeding in one place as head coach disqualifies him as a position coach somewhere else.

As for not being proactive in the offseason, well, it ain't the offseason just yet. The FA period doesn't start until next month; the combine is a couple months away.

The 2 things the Saints can do at this time is:
1.- call on NFL coaches that have been fired somewhere else, but that would be the same case as Orgegon, no?
2.- Ask permission to talk to coaches under contract from other teams not playing anymore, which other teams may or may not grant, or the coach in question may or may not want to go somewhere else if he's successful in his present situation and he's not offered a HC position.

papz · 01-24-2008, 10:45 AM

He's had 15 plus years experience coaching mostly with the DL... I think it's a good hire. He's paid his dues and I think he's going to be a good addition to our staff. I think it's extremely premature to throw him under the bus.

Cortez Kennedy, Russell Maryland, Warren Sapp, Kenechi Udeze, and Mike Patterson are some of the guys he's coached during his career.

Budsdrinker · 01-24-2008, 11:59 AM

Just because a coach didn't do well at one team doesn't mean he is a bad coach. Look at Billicheck, he was fired in Cleveland years ago and people said he would never amount to much as a coach and just look at him now.
Give Orgeron a chance. It's not like he is the HC or DC.

biloxi-indian · 01-24-2008, 12:15 PM

I was just listening to Sirius and a caller asked about the Orgeron hire with the Saints. The guys on Sirius said "Eddie was a great hire for the Saints. He fits their scheme and you can bet the defensive linemen will be in shape and run to the ball". High intensity coach that will expect nothing but 100% from his players. They went futher on to say "you can bet Grant and Smith will lose weight".

papz · 01-24-2008, 04:54 PM

Okay smart guy, if he was SUCH A GREAT DL coach, how were his D Lines at Ole Miss? Yeah right, when he didn't have the SC talent, he didn't have the same results. My arguement is weak? Sure, whatever you say, he BOMBED as a head coach. He just didn't "not do well" he NEVER even had a .500 record! None of his defenses were even CLOSE to being ranked high in the SEC.

I believe I already answered that even before you asked the question.

About my McFadden comment, I still stand by it. I will post facts to boast that it a second.

Any day now.

Second, you must be some kind of mental misfit to even mention Tomlin! That PROVES my point. Tomlin was a DC in the NFL for more than just a season or two before he got his chance. He also put his skins on the wall in the NFL. Please tell me where Ogeron has done this? Do you REALLY think that the D Lines at SC were so successful because of Ogeron? You make me laugh. Has SC missed a beat with Ogeron gone? Yeah right and my arguement is weak.

Obviously you have hard time reading and understanding things.

So umm... can you answer that question I posed?

Mike Tomlin worked his way from being a graduate assistant at Memphis to becoming a head coach for the Pittsburg Steelers. What qualified him making that jump from being a college assistant to becoming NFL position's coach?

Look carefully as I bolded the most important part in there.
Read it slowly first... you get my point yet?

Probably not.

papz · 01-24-2008, 04:58 PM

Oh man you're just digging yourself in a deeper hole... you should just stop and pretend this thread never happened.

01-23-2008, 05:37 PM	#1
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach - Sports - NOLA.com Orgeron spent seven seasons at Southern Cal, where he earned a reputation as one of the top defensive line coaches and one of the top recruiters in the country. He has also coached at Miami, Syracuse, Arkansas and Nicholls State. He began his coaching career as a graduate assistant at Northwestern State, then at McNeese State. "His reputation precedes him," Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis said. "He's a fantastic coach. He's done a great job at every place that he's been. And we got so many recommendations from people that have worked with him and played for him, that it was kind of overwhelming to be honest with you."
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01-24-2008, 07:06 AM	#2
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach No comment other than what I've already said about this. Well, I guess we will just have to wait and see. I hope I have to eat some crow on this.

01-24-2008, 09:56 AM	#3
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach WHOA! You seem to be on a negative roll today Missile. I like it, keep the fire burning.

01-24-2008, 10:03 AM	#4
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,033	Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach I don't see how a guy not being a good head coach automaticly disqualifies him from being a good position coach. Look att Haslett, he sucked as a HC but is a pretty good LB coach.

01-24-2008, 11:51 AM	#5
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach I agree with Crusader's sentiment. I don't see how not succeeding in one place as head coach disqualifies him as a position coach somewhere else. As for not being proactive in the offseason, well, it ain't the offseason just yet. The FA period doesn't start until next month; the combine is a couple months away. The 2 things the Saints can do at this time is: 1.- call on NFL coaches that have been fired somewhere else, but that would be the same case as Orgegon, no? 2.- Ask permission to talk to coaches under contract from other teams not playing anymore, which other teams may or may not grant, or the coach in question may or may not want to go somewhere else if he's successful in his present situation and he's not offered a HC position.
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01-24-2008, 10:45 AM	#6
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach He's had 15 plus years experience coaching mostly with the DL... I think it's a good hire. He's paid his dues and I think he's going to be a good addition to our staff. I think it's extremely premature to throw him under the bus. Cortez Kennedy, Russell Maryland, Warren Sapp, Kenechi Udeze, and Mike Patterson are some of the guys he's coached during his career.

01-24-2008, 11:59 AM	#7
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach Just because a coach didn't do well at one team doesn't mean he is a bad coach. Look at Billicheck, he was fired in Cleveland years ago and people said he would never amount to much as a coach and just look at him now. Give Orgeron a chance. It's not like he is the HC or DC.

01-24-2008, 12:15 PM	#8
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach I was just listening to Sirius and a caller asked about the Orgeron hire with the Saints. The guys on Sirius said "Eddie was a great hire for the Saints. He fits their scheme and you can bet the defensive linemen will be in shape and run to the ball". High intensity coach that will expect nothing but 100% from his players. They went futher on to say "you can bet Grant and Smith will lose weight".

01-24-2008, 04:54 PM	#9
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach Okay smart guy, if he was SUCH A GREAT DL coach, how were his D Lines at Ole Miss? Yeah right, when he didn't have the SC talent, he didn't have the same results. My arguement is weak? Sure, whatever you say, he BOMBED as a head coach. He just didn't "not do well" he NEVER even had a .500 record! None of his defenses were even CLOSE to being ranked high in the SEC. I believe I already answered that even before you asked the question. About my McFadden comment, I still stand by it. I will post facts to boast that it a second. Any day now. Second, you must be some kind of mental misfit to even mention Tomlin! That PROVES my point. Tomlin was a DC in the NFL for more than just a season or two before he got his chance. He also put his skins on the wall in the NFL. Please tell me where Ogeron has done this? Do you REALLY think that the D Lines at SC were so successful because of Ogeron? You make me laugh. Has SC missed a beat with Ogeron gone? Yeah right and my arguement is weak. Obviously you have hard time reading and understanding things. So umm... can you answer that question I posed? Mike Tomlin worked his way from being a graduate assistant at Memphis to becoming a head coach for the Pittsburg Steelers. What qualified him making that jump from being a college assistant to becoming NFL position's coach? Look carefully as I bolded the most important part in there. Read it slowly first... you get my point yet? Probably not.

01-24-2008, 04:58 PM	#10
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Re: Saints hire Orgeron as defensive line coach Oh man you're just digging yourself in a deeper hole... you should just stop and pretend this thread never happened.