Saints Offer J. Brown for #2 update on pg 19!!!

gandhi1007 · 04-18-2008, 09:17 PM

Well...if we want him, we're going to have to move up to #2 to get him. It seems that the Falcons owner has made 3 private flights to visit Dorsey in the last 2 weeks. Damn, I would hate to have to face this guy twice a year!

pakowitz · 04-18-2008, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Well...if we want him, we're going to have to move up to #2 to get him. It seems that the Falcons owner has made 3 private flights to visit Dorsey in the last 2 weeks. Damn, I would hate to have to face this guy twice a year!

if he ends up in ATL i think i will be sick

Euphoria · 04-18-2008, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

if he ends up in ATL i think i will be sick

I couldn't agree more... we gots to move up to get Dorsey.

beauchristopher · 04-19-2008, 12:11 AM

dorsey to the saints is a dream. it just fits perfectly.. but i don't think we should give up too much to move up.. altho all the free agent signing could allow us to do so.. i just like the value in rounds 2-5..

on rivers.. he is very good, but he wasn't even the best linebacker at usc..

Euphoria · 04-19-2008, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by beauchristopher

dorsey to the saints is a dream. it just fits perfectly.. but i don't think we should give up too much to move up.. altho all the free agent signing could allow us to do so.. i just like the value in rounds 2-5..

on rivers.. he is very good, but he wasn't even the best linebacker at usc..

Its a week draft class. The only reason to trade back is to get picks for next year. Move up and take the elite players in this draft or stock pile for next year.

BRSaintsFan · 04-19-2008, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Its a week draft class. The only reason to trade back is to get picks for next year. Move up and take the elite players in this draft or stock pile for next year.

Agreed...I am not a big advocate of trading down for more picks unless you are trying to rebuild a team (Atlanta, Miami). What this team needs is not 10 picks and hoping that of those 10, half make the final cut, and 2 or 3 develop into decent starters. You need to target the guys that you want and be aggressive in going after them, not trade back and wait to see what falls to you.

Euphoria · 04-19-2008, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan

Agreed...I am not a big advocate of trading down for more picks unless you are trying to rebuild a team (Atlanta, Miami). What this team needs is not 10 picks and hoping that of those 10, half make the final cut, and 2 or 3 develop into decent starters. You need to target the guys that you want and be aggressive in going after them, not trade back and wait to see what falls to you.

Agreed, At this point depth is over-rated. We need some big time starters to come in. We don't have a lot of time to develop to many picks.

CantonLegend · 04-19-2008, 11:26 PM

The saints need to draft the highest player available at 10 and not risk losing their second round pick which may be the player we are looking for.....and/or next years first round pick which will almost certainly be more valuable than ne player in this year's draft!

dasaints26 · 04-19-2008, 09:41 PM

In my opinion it would be a greater benefit to not move up if the Falcons want Dorsey with all the offensive talent they could choose from if they decide to draft a big body to clog up the defensive line who cares. After all the protection our line gave Brees last year and after reading our talent scouts say we will be better this year without our starting center I dont expect the Falcons will give us much to worry about.
If the Falcons want to pass on a franchise QB or skip on the game-changing talent of Mcfadden why in the heck would we want to trade up ahead of them and screw it up. Let them draft a 300 lb athelet to stuff the run as they play from behind all year. We atleast have a couple of positions that need to be upgraded the Falcons have 2 offense and defense.
Just to clarify no harm in suggesting we should trade up to get Dorsey because he is great and he played at LSU but lets not defend it by hoping to beat the Falcons to him. If I knew for sure the Falcons wanted him I would say no way to trading up let them get a new DT we can move the ball on anyone.

Euphoria · 04-20-2008, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by dasaints26

In my opinion it would be a greater benefit to not move up if the Falcons want Dorsey with all the offensive talent they could choose from if they decide to draft a big body to clog up the defensive line who cares. After all the protection our line gave Brees last year and after reading our talent scouts say we will be better this year without our starting center I dont expect the Falcons will give us much to worry about.
If the Falcons want to pass on a franchise QB or skip on the game-changing talent of Mcfadden why in the heck would we want to trade up ahead of them and screw it up. Let them draft a 300 lb athelet to stuff the run as they play from behind all year. We atleast have a couple of positions that need to be upgraded the Falcons have 2 offense and defense.
Just to clarify no harm in suggesting we should trade up to get Dorsey because he is great and he played at LSU but lets not defend it by hoping to beat the Falcons to him. If I knew for sure the Falcons wanted him I would say no way to trading up let them get a new DT we can move the ball on anyone.

Are we talking about the same Dorsey??? Glen Dorsey out of LSU right???
Well the thing you fail to realize or mention is that Dorsey isn't the run stuffer that you claim. Dorsey is the game changer... Dorsey is the Pass Rusher... Dorsey is the disrupter... You take your eye off of him or don't game plan this guy you will lose. You don't see it a lot in football where a DT who can single handedly win games... thats never been said about a DT. There is no illusion that if he came out last year he would be a top 4 pick and none this year that we won't end up being a top 4 pick this year.

04-18-2008, 09:17 PM	#1
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04-18-2008, 11:10 PM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Trying To Move Up To #2!!! Originally Posted by pakowitz if he ends up in ATL i think i will be sick I couldn't agree more... we gots to move up to get Dorsey.

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04-19-2008, 11:47 AM	#5
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Trying To Move Up To #2!!! Originally Posted by beauchristopher dorsey to the saints is a dream. it just fits perfectly.. but i don't think we should give up too much to move up.. altho all the free agent signing could allow us to do so.. i just like the value in rounds 2-5.. on rivers.. he is very good, but he wasn't even the best linebacker at usc.. Its a week draft class. The only reason to trade back is to get picks for next year. Move up and take the elite players in this draft or stock pile for next year.

04-19-2008, 12:36 PM	#6
BRSaintsFan 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 449	Re: Saints Trying To Move Up To #2!!! Originally Posted by Euphoria Its a week draft class. The only reason to trade back is to get picks for next year. Move up and take the elite players in this draft or stock pile for next year. Agreed...I am not a big advocate of trading down for more picks unless you are trying to rebuild a team (Atlanta, Miami). What this team needs is not 10 picks and hoping that of those 10, half make the final cut, and 2 or 3 develop into decent starters. You need to target the guys that you want and be aggressive in going after them, not trade back and wait to see what falls to you.

04-18-2008, 10:55 PM	#2
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: Saints Trying To Move Up To #2!!! Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Well...if we want him, we're going to have to move up to #2 to get him. It seems that the Falcons owner has made 3 private flights to visit Dorsey in the last 2 weeks. Damn, I would hate to have to face this guy twice a year! if he ends up in ATL i think i will be sick

04-19-2008, 03:42 PM	#7
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Trying To Move Up To #2!!! Originally Posted by BRSaintsFan Agreed...I am not a big advocate of trading down for more picks unless you are trying to rebuild a team (Atlanta, Miami). What this team needs is not 10 picks and hoping that of those 10, half make the final cut, and 2 or 3 develop into decent starters. You need to target the guys that you want and be aggressive in going after them, not trade back and wait to see what falls to you. Agreed, At this point depth is over-rated. We need some big time starters to come in. We don't have a lot of time to develop to many picks.

04-19-2008, 11:26 PM	#8
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints Trying To Move Up To #2!!! The saints need to draft the highest player available at 10 and not risk losing their second round pick which may be the player we are looking for.....and/or next years first round pick which will almost certainly be more valuable than ne player in this year's draft!

04-19-2008, 09:41 PM	#9
dasaints26 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 167	Re: Saints Trying To Move Up To #2!!! In my opinion it would be a greater benefit to not move up if the Falcons want Dorsey with all the offensive talent they could choose from if they decide to draft a big body to clog up the defensive line who cares. After all the protection our line gave Brees last year and after reading our talent scouts say we will be better this year without our starting center I dont expect the Falcons will give us much to worry about. If the Falcons want to pass on a franchise QB or skip on the game-changing talent of Mcfadden why in the heck would we want to trade up ahead of them and screw it up. Let them draft a 300 lb athelet to stuff the run as they play from behind all year. We atleast have a couple of positions that need to be upgraded the Falcons have 2 offense and defense. Just to clarify no harm in suggesting we should trade up to get Dorsey because he is great and he played at LSU but lets not defend it by hoping to beat the Falcons to him. If I knew for sure the Falcons wanted him I would say no way to trading up let them get a new DT we can move the ball on anyone.
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04-20-2008, 10:51 AM	#10
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints Trying To Move Up To #2!!! Originally Posted by dasaints26 In my opinion it would be a greater benefit to not move up if the Falcons want Dorsey with all the offensive talent they could choose from if they decide to draft a big body to clog up the defensive line who cares. After all the protection our line gave Brees last year and after reading our talent scouts say we will be better this year without our starting center I dont expect the Falcons will give us much to worry about. If the Falcons want to pass on a franchise QB or skip on the game-changing talent of Mcfadden why in the heck would we want to trade up ahead of them and screw it up. Let them draft a 300 lb athelet to stuff the run as they play from behind all year. We atleast have a couple of positions that need to be upgraded the Falcons have 2 offense and defense. Just to clarify no harm in suggesting we should trade up to get Dorsey because he is great and he played at LSU but lets not defend it by hoping to beat the Falcons to him. If I knew for sure the Falcons wanted him I would say no way to trading up let them get a new DT we can move the ball on anyone. Are we talking about the same Dorsey??? Glen Dorsey out of LSU right??? Well the thing you fail to realize or mention is that Dorsey isn't the run stuffer that you claim. Dorsey is the game changer... Dorsey is the Pass Rusher... Dorsey is the disrupter... You take your eye off of him or don't game plan this guy you will lose. You don't see it a lot in football where a DT who can single handedly win games... thats never been said about a DT. There is no illusion that if he came out last year he would be a top 4 pick and none this year that we won't end up being a top 4 pick this year.
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