Saints' Staff are Gamblers

JKool · 05-22-2008, 11:10 AM

Dr, that is a nice take.

Of course, any team might find some diamonds in the rough or happen on a sneaky new blitz package... this is why teams aren't just what they are on paper. Maybe that is the key point to remember?

I think we look better on paper (except at Center, Safety, TE, and Running Back) than we did last year, and in at least one of those cases we didn't really need any improvement. I hope this translates into being better than we were last year. I, for one, am optimistic..

504Highlander · 05-22-2008, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by JKool

Dr, that is a nice take.

Of course, any team might find some diamonds in the rough or happen on a sneaky new blitz package... this is why teams aren't just what they are on paper. Maybe that is the key point to remember?

I think we look better on paper (except at Center, Safety, TE, and Running Back) than we did last year, and in at least one of those cases we didn't really need any improvement. I hope this translates into being better than we were last year. I, for one, am optimistic..

Optimism, the one consistent thing about the Saints' fans. Got to love it.

Hey, I heard them talking on the radio to Sean Payton about co-owning a racehorse and how he enjoys a little wager. If I remember correctly, the other owners were other members of the FO.

I guess the Saints' Staff really are gamblers !

The ponies, the draft, injured players, whatever. Let's make a bet.

Originally Posted by papz

So you're saying you are and were against us acquiring Vilma from the Jets?

That's the only move that we made this offseason that required giving up draft picks for a previously injured star linebacker. Dan Morgan was a low risk high reward player that costed us absolutely nothing.

The thing is, we just have no idea. That is what I am getting at. If we are upgrading a key position, let's start with a talented and healthy prospect or player, then go from there. If we are going for depth, then we can roll the dice and deal with the outcome. But making plans based on a 'best case' scenario and not even considering the 'worst case' scenario, is a bit dumb.
Like gambling is dumb, if you don't really have very much money.

Originally Posted by Doctor Saint

504 makes good points about our competition this year. We have an easier schedule however(according to last year's records). simply adding one or two key players does not make those teams superbowl contenders tho. that was my argument for bringing in shockey. the eagles added asante samuel whom, IMO, was the only key offseason move for them. with samuel and lito on the corners they will have a dominant pass defense. however, the bears and panthers are up in the air. we normally dont beat the bears and if we lose to them(i penciled us in for a loss there) it wont hurt our chances for a superbowl. the panthers usually split the series with us so im not worried about that either. whether we split the series or not, they will not sweep us simply because our offense is so dominating and their defense will not match up

The Eagles quietly made some smart and interesting moves this year.

They signed Dan Klecko to be their fullback. His previous starting position was D Line, although the Colts also used him as a TE on short yardage situations.

They also signed a guy named Kris Wilson, who was behind Gonzales at TE and HB and who also had lined up in the backfield.

Plus they signed DE Chris Clemons (Raiders), LB Rocky Boiman(Colts), RB Lorenzo Booker (Fins)

In the Draft they got DT Trevor Laws, WR Desean Jackson, FS Quintin Demps,
CB Jack Ikegwuonu

They definitely added more than one player in 08.

05-22-2008, 11:10 AM	#1
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Re: Saints' Staff are Gamblers Dr, that is a nice take. Of course, any team might find some diamonds in the rough or happen on a sneaky new blitz package... this is why teams aren't just what they are on paper. Maybe that is the key point to remember? I think we look better on paper (except at Center, Safety, TE, and Running Back) than we did last year, and in at least one of those cases we didn't really need any improvement. I hope this translates into being better than we were last year. I, for one, am optimistic..

05-22-2008, 10:33 PM	#2
504Highlander Registered Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 47 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by JKool Dr, that is a nice take. Of course, any team might find some diamonds in the rough or happen on a sneaky new blitz package... this is why teams aren't just what they are on paper. Maybe that is the key point to remember? I think we look better on paper (except at Center, Safety, TE, and Running Back) than we did last year, and in at least one of those cases we didn't really need any improvement. I hope this translates into being better than we were last year. I, for one, am optimistic.. Optimism, the one consistent thing about the Saints' fans. Got to love it. Hey, I heard them talking on the radio to Sean Payton about co-owning a racehorse and how he enjoys a little wager. If I remember correctly, the other owners were other members of the FO. I guess the Saints' Staff really are gamblers ! The ponies, the draft, injured players, whatever. Let's make a bet. Originally Posted by papz So you're saying you are and were against us acquiring Vilma from the Jets? That's the only move that we made this offseason that required giving up draft picks for a previously injured star linebacker. Dan Morgan was a low risk high reward player that costed us absolutely nothing. The thing is, we just have no idea. That is what I am getting at. If we are upgrading a key position, let's start with a talented and healthy prospect or player, then go from there. If we are going for depth, then we can roll the dice and deal with the outcome. But making plans based on a 'best case' scenario and not even considering the 'worst case' scenario, is a bit dumb. Like gambling is dumb, if you don't really have very much money. Originally Posted by Doctor Saint 504 makes good points about our competition this year. We have an easier schedule however(according to last year's records). simply adding one or two key players does not make those teams superbowl contenders tho. that was my argument for bringing in shockey. the eagles added asante samuel whom, IMO, was the only key offseason move for them. with samuel and lito on the corners they will have a dominant pass defense. however, the bears and panthers are up in the air. we normally dont beat the bears and if we lose to them(i penciled us in for a loss there) it wont hurt our chances for a superbowl. the panthers usually split the series with us so im not worried about that either. whether we split the series or not, they will not sweep us simply because our offense is so dominating and their defense will not match up The Eagles quietly made some smart and interesting moves this year. They signed Dan Klecko to be their fullback. His previous starting position was D Line, although the Colts also used him as a TE on short yardage situations. They also signed a guy named Kris Wilson, who was behind Gonzales at TE and HB and who also had lined up in the backfield. Plus they signed DE Chris Clemons (Raiders), LB Rocky Boiman(Colts), RB Lorenzo Booker (Fins) In the Draft they got DT Trevor Laws, WR Desean Jackson, FS Quintin Demps, CB Jack Ikegwuonu They definitely added more than one player in 08.
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