Crow... the other other white meat

Danno · 09-28-2009, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

Those 2 stats are a little misleading. Aside from the teams that play tonight, he's punted less than all but 3 teams.

6 teams actually, and Net Average isn't skewed though, and its exactly mediocre, as are his KO's. Middle of the pack is 12 punts, he's punted 10 times.

You may wanna hold off on the annointing oil.

WhoDat205 · 09-28-2009, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

6 teams actually, and Net Average isn't skewed though, and its exactly mediocre, as are his KO's. Middle of the pack is 12 punts, he's punted 10 times.

You may wanna hold off on the annointing oil.

SD, IND and NE have all punted 9 times, we've punted 10 times. Properly phrased, 3 teams have punted less than we have.

He's 11th in punt average, 12th net average and 12th in average return yards, and that includes the 43 yarder the team gave up against detroit. 16 PR yards since then. He's above average so far. He's not the second coming of Ray Guy, but he's getting it done.

ScottF · 09-28-2009, 03:23 PM

off Morstead, back on topic:

I'll own up to the absolute lack of love I have shown for Devery. He has been consistent, and sometimes even spectacular.

if I have to consume Crow, does anyone object if I choose this:

http://www.purelycanadian.com/Images/OldCrow.jpg

Budsdrinker · 09-28-2009, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

No you weren't so far.

Punting Average - 10th
Net Average - 16th
Inside 20 - 29th
Fair Catches - 25th
KO average - 16th

No way he's earned those 2 picks yet.

He is 12th in net average. Only punted 10 times which equates to 20% of his punts land inside the 20 and only 7 of his 10 punts have been returned for 8.4 yard average. tied for 4th with touchbacks on kickoffs. His stock is rising.

FrenzyFan · 09-28-2009, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

No you weren't so far.

Punting Average - 10th
Net Average - 16th
Inside 20 - 29th
Fair Catches - 25th
KO average - 16th

No way he's earned those 2 picks yet.

That surprises the heck out of me, and I find it hard to reconcile what I "see" on the field with what the stats seem to say. He sure looks great to me, but then that may be because I am used to REALLY awful play. On KOs alone, when Moorestead bangs it out of the endzone (as he's done several times) or hits it deep into the endzone, I want to cheer out loud. Last season, I never saw anything close to that. On his punts, they seem to hang forever and our coverage seems light years better than it has been - I attribute it to the punter and that hangtime but perhaps I shouldn't.

Further analysis is needed, but for the time being I'll trust my eyes and what I see and write off the stats as "misleading".

Tobias-Reiper · 09-28-2009, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by FrenzyFan

That surprises the heck out of me, and I find it hard to reconcile what I "see" on the field with what the stats seem to say. He sure looks great to me, but then that may be because I am used to REALLY awful play. On KOs alone, when Moorestead bangs it out of the endzone (as he's done several times) or hits it deep into the endzone, I want to cheer out loud. Last season, I never saw anything close to that. On his punts, they seem to hang forever and our coverage seems light years better than it has been - I attribute it to the punter and that hangtime but perhaps I shouldn't.

Further analysis is needed, but for the time being I'll trust my eyes and what I see and write off the stats as "misleading".

I think that you are just thrilled to see the Saints running game put away a team in the 4th quarter, which you have not seen since 2006, and that's got you exited about the team again.. And that is ok! Enjoy it!

neugey · 09-28-2009, 03:48 PM

Crow marinaded in creole sauce - might not be too bad LOL.

I agree most of the moves made by Payton and the staff have really worked out well. Exception might be the drafting of the Demon Deacon twins who both unluckily got hurt.

SaintGup · 09-28-2009, 05:09 PM

I would like to say a big I WAS WRONG about two of our players...Jeremy Shockey. Thought he was a troublemaker and a huffy prima donna who threw his toys out of the pram when things didn't go his way. He has been solid and seems to have a better attitude. Even when he's on the sidelines he is encouraging and seems to be motivated. The next one, Scott Shanle. wasn't my most favourite Linebacker but he has come out this season and played well enough that if he carries on in the same vein will be a pro bowler. Some of you may laugh but I have noticed that he is around the ball much more than last year, seems to have a new lease of life. However I will stand by what I said; Shanle for the pro bowl if he carries on doing what he is doing. The true test though, is when the Saints are behind which they have not been this year. Buffalo was a stern test but do we have the character to bounce back when we're bloodied and on one knee? So far the morale says we have.

saintsfan1976 · 09-28-2009, 05:25 PM

Frenzy, I respect the heck out of you for that post. I know we've gone around on the Shockey topic and I'm just glad the guy is healthy and playing to his potential.

Sometimes it's feels good to be wrong.

Now, has anyone seen Boonedock Saint? LOL

hagan714 · 09-28-2009, 06:43 PM

I am still wanting more from the pro bowler myself before I eat crow on that deal. Good addition yes. Worth the picks? hmmmm waiting and watching

Moorestead may have a few number skewed but he has improved with each game. Rookie jitters? maybe. I am cooking my crow right now. It is on slow cook but by game 8 it should be ready.

09-28-2009, 02:33 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Crow... the other other white meat Originally Posted by WhoDat205 Those 2 stats are a little misleading. Aside from the teams that play tonight, he's punted less than all but 3 teams. 6 teams actually, and Net Average isn't skewed though, and its exactly mediocre, as are his KO's. Middle of the pack is 12 punts, he's punted 10 times. You may wanna hold off on the annointing oil.
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09-28-2009, 03:00 PM	#2
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Crow... the other other white meat Originally Posted by Danno 6 teams actually, and Net Average isn't skewed though, and its exactly mediocre, as are his KO's. Middle of the pack is 12 punts, he's punted 10 times. You may wanna hold off on the annointing oil. SD, IND and NE have all punted 9 times, we've punted 10 times. Properly phrased, 3 teams have punted less than we have. He's 11th in punt average, 12th net average and 12th in average return yards, and that includes the 43 yarder the team gave up against detroit. 16 PR yards since then. He's above average so far. He's not the second coming of Ray Guy, but he's getting it done.
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09-28-2009, 03:23 PM	#3
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Crow... the other other white meat off Morstead, back on topic: I'll own up to the absolute lack of love I have shown for Devery. He has been consistent, and sometimes even spectacular. if I have to consume Crow, does anyone object if I choose this: http://www.purelycanadian.com/Images/OldCrow.jpg

09-28-2009, 02:45 PM	#4
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Crow... the other other white meat Originally Posted by Danno No you weren't so far. Punting Average - 10th Net Average - 16th Inside 20 - 29th Fair Catches - 25th KO average - 16th No way he's earned those 2 picks yet. He is 12th in net average. Only punted 10 times which equates to 20% of his punts land inside the 20 and only 7 of his 10 punts have been returned for 8.4 yard average. tied for 4th with touchbacks on kickoffs. His stock is rising.

09-28-2009, 02:52 PM	#5
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Re: Crow... the other other white meat Originally Posted by Danno No you weren't so far. Punting Average - 10th Net Average - 16th Inside 20 - 29th Fair Catches - 25th KO average - 16th No way he's earned those 2 picks yet. That surprises the heck out of me, and I find it hard to reconcile what I "see" on the field with what the stats seem to say. He sure looks great to me, but then that may be because I am used to REALLY awful play. On KOs alone, when Moorestead bangs it out of the endzone (as he's done several times) or hits it deep into the endzone, I want to cheer out loud. Last season, I never saw anything close to that. On his punts, they seem to hang forever and our coverage seems light years better than it has been - I attribute it to the punter and that hangtime but perhaps I shouldn't. Further analysis is needed, but for the time being I'll trust my eyes and what I see and write off the stats as "misleading".
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09-28-2009, 05:27 PM	#6
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Crow... the other other white meat Originally Posted by FrenzyFan That surprises the heck out of me, and I find it hard to reconcile what I "see" on the field with what the stats seem to say. He sure looks great to me, but then that may be because I am used to REALLY awful play. On KOs alone, when Moorestead bangs it out of the endzone (as he's done several times) or hits it deep into the endzone, I want to cheer out loud. Last season, I never saw anything close to that. On his punts, they seem to hang forever and our coverage seems light years better than it has been - I attribute it to the punter and that hangtime but perhaps I shouldn't. Further analysis is needed, but for the time being I'll trust my eyes and what I see and write off the stats as "misleading". I think that you are just thrilled to see the Saints running game put away a team in the 4th quarter, which you have not seen since 2006, and that's got you exited about the team again.. And that is ok! Enjoy it!

09-28-2009, 03:48 PM	#7
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,835 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Crow... the other other white meat Crow marinaded in creole sauce - might not be too bad LOL. I agree most of the moves made by Payton and the staff have really worked out well. Exception might be the drafting of the Demon Deacon twins who both unluckily got hurt.

09-28-2009, 05:09 PM	#8
SaintGup 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 580	Re: Crow... the other other white meat I would like to say a big I WAS WRONG about two of our players...Jeremy Shockey. Thought he was a troublemaker and a huffy prima donna who threw his toys out of the pram when things didn't go his way. He has been solid and seems to have a better attitude. Even when he's on the sidelines he is encouraging and seems to be motivated. The next one, Scott Shanle. wasn't my most favourite Linebacker but he has come out this season and played well enough that if he carries on in the same vein will be a pro bowler. Some of you may laugh but I have noticed that he is around the ball much more than last year, seems to have a new lease of life. However I will stand by what I said; Shanle for the pro bowl if he carries on doing what he is doing. The true test though, is when the Saints are behind which they have not been this year. Buffalo was a stern test but do we have the character to bounce back when we're bloodied and on one knee? So far the morale says we have.

09-28-2009, 05:25 PM	#9
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,996 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Crow... the other other white meat Frenzy, I respect the heck out of you for that post. I know we've gone around on the Shockey topic and I'm just glad the guy is healthy and playing to his potential. Sometimes it's feels good to be wrong. Now, has anyone seen Boonedock Saint? LOL

09-28-2009, 06:43 PM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Crow... the other other white meat I am still wanting more from the pro bowler myself before I eat crow on that deal. Good addition yes. Worth the picks? hmmmm waiting and watching Moorestead may have a few number skewed but he has improved with each game. Rookie jitters? maybe. I am cooking my crow right now. It is on slow cook but by game 8 it should be ready.