SO, after Carney missed that short field goal...

Danno · 11-03-2009, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by emteejae

I'm kinda torn on this. Carney has made mistakes, but so has the team....Drew makes bad decisions too. Of course, none of these errors have cost us a game. Still, as much as I'd like to support the experienced veteran (who is normally a model for consistency), I can't help but wonder if we are bracing ourselves for the second coming of Martin Erratica....I am still scarred heavily from the Viking and Bronco games last year.

I'm a bit gunshy too. But we signed Carney for one reason, he's money from inside 40. Well now it appears that may no longer be the case.

I expect he'll be released this week and we sign someone to bolster our special teams. They certainly need it.

QBREES9 · 11-03-2009, 10:48 AM

Yeah give the Kid his job back. It will also free up a roster spot too.

Tobias-Reiper · 11-03-2009, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by emteejae

I'm kinda torn on this. Carney has made mistakes, but so has the team....Drew makes bad decisions too. Of course, none of these errors have cost us a game. Still, as much as I'd like to support the experienced veteran (who is normally a model for consistency), I can't help but wonder if we are bracing ourselves for the second coming of Martin Erratica....I am still scarred heavily from the Viking and Bronco games last year.

The difference is Carney does one thing and one thing only: kick FGs.
He doesn't have to read defenses, or coverages, or be aware of the pass rush, etc etc etc etc. He just kicks FGs.

jn671 · 11-03-2009, 11:08 AM

hmmm missing a less than 30 yarder.. darn carney..

Rugby Saint II · 11-03-2009, 05:29 PM

I've been a fan of Hartley since he came in last year. We need for him to keep nailing his field goals and stay consistent. Let's hope he's the next coming of Morten Andersen.

Papa Voodoo · 11-03-2009, 06:42 PM

If we haven't used Hartley there is a reason for it. Elam missed 2 as well...maybe the holders farted.

jnormand · 11-04-2009, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

If we haven't used Hartley there is a reason for it. Elam missed 2 as well...maybe the holders farted.

LOL!

Nah. I think while Carney was in forward motion, dropping his leg down for the kick, he farted. The natural swing and rotation of the body created a vortex, therefore pulling the stench of the fart toward Carney's face.

The vortex was created with such force that the farty air hit Carney in the face like he actually had his head next to his own ass. The smell was so pungent and sulfuric, it went directly to Carney's nerves, creating a nerve "shiver", which consequently made his leg twitch and the FG was missed.

In a fart shell, I mean a nut shell; that's what happened.

Tobias-Reiper · 11-04-2009, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

If we haven't used Hartley there is a reason for it. Elam missed 2 as well...maybe the holders farted.

.. or maybe Elam is not as good as he was after 17 years in the NFL?

So far, Carney has attempted 11 field goals, and he's missed 3, with 2 of those 3 in the 30-39 yard range. Because the team has been scoring a lot of points and end up winning games, no one has really made a stink about it - well, I have

. Monday was the first time those 3 points could've made a difference since the score was so close.

I guess everyone remembers the Jacksonville game, and Carney missing that XP, and a lot of people think that put the Saints out of the playoffs that year, which isn't true. BUT, the one I remember, is the missed field goal in the 2006 NFC championship game, with the score 14-17. The missed field goal gave the Bears good field position, they went on to score, and the Saints never recovered.

Look, nothing against the man, but he's 45, and he's missing some cheap shots.

hagan714 · 11-04-2009, 06:36 AM

I am tired of caring two kickers on this team. hope 2010 puts an end to all of this

Budsdrinker · 11-04-2009, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

.. or maybe Elam is not as good as he was after 17 years in the NFL?

So far, Carney has attempted 11 field goals, and he's missed 3, with 2 of those 3 in the 30-39 yard range. Because the team has been scoring a lot of points and end up winning games, no one has really made a stink about it - well, I have . Monday was the first time those 3 points could've made a difference since the score was so close.

I guess everyone remembers the Jacksonville game, and Carney missing that XP, and a lot of people think that put the Saints out of the playoffs that year, which isn't true. BUT, the one I remember, is the missed field goal in the 2006 NFC championship game, with the score 14-17. The missed field goal gave the Bears good field position, they went on to score, and the Saints never recovered.

Look, nothing against the man, but he's 45, and he's missing some cheap shots.

I agree with you for the most part but in Carney's defense it wasn't him that missed the kick against the Bears, it was Cundiff but he was in there because Carney didn't have the leg strength to try it so I guess it is indirectly Carney's miss.

11-03-2009, 10:23 AM	#21
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: SO, after Carney missed that short field goal... Originally Posted by emteejae I'm kinda torn on this. Carney has made mistakes, but so has the team....Drew makes bad decisions too. Of course, none of these errors have cost us a game. Still, as much as I'd like to support the experienced veteran (who is normally a model for consistency), I can't help but wonder if we are bracing ourselves for the second coming of Martin Erratica....I am still scarred heavily from the Viking and Bronco games last year. I'm a bit gunshy too. But we signed Carney for one reason, he's money from inside 40. Well now it appears that may no longer be the case. I expect he'll be released this week and we sign someone to bolster our special teams. They certainly need it.

11-03-2009, 10:48 AM	#22
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: SO, after Carney missed that short field goal... Yeah give the Kid his job back. It will also free up a roster spot too.

11-03-2009, 10:58 AM	#23
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: SO, after Carney missed that short field goal... Originally Posted by emteejae I'm kinda torn on this. Carney has made mistakes, but so has the team....Drew makes bad decisions too. Of course, none of these errors have cost us a game. Still, as much as I'd like to support the experienced veteran (who is normally a model for consistency), I can't help but wonder if we are bracing ourselves for the second coming of Martin Erratica....I am still scarred heavily from the Viking and Bronco games last year. The difference is Carney does one thing and one thing only: kick FGs. He doesn't have to read defenses, or coverages, or be aware of the pass rush, etc etc etc etc. He just kicks FGs.

11-03-2009, 11:08 AM	#24
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: SO, after Carney missed that short field goal... Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo If we haven't used Hartley there is a reason for it. Elam missed 2 as well...maybe the holders farted. LOL! Nah. I think while Carney was in forward motion, dropping his leg down for the kick, he farted. The natural swing and rotation of the body created a vortex, therefore pulling the stench of the fart toward Carney's face. The vortex was created with such force that the farty air hit Carney in the face like he actually had his head next to his own ass. The smell was so pungent and sulfuric, it went directly to Carney's nerves, creating a nerve "shiver", which consequently made his leg twitch and the FG was missed. In a fart shell, I mean a nut shell; that's what happened.

11-04-2009, 06:30 AM	#28
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: SO, after Carney missed that short field goal... Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo If we haven't used Hartley there is a reason for it. Elam missed 2 as well...maybe the holders farted. .. or maybe Elam is not as good as he was after 17 years in the NFL? So far, Carney has attempted 11 field goals, and he's missed 3, with 2 of those 3 in the 30-39 yard range. Because the team has been scoring a lot of points and end up winning games, no one has really made a stink about it - well, I have . Monday was the first time those 3 points could've made a difference since the score was so close. I guess everyone remembers the Jacksonville game, and Carney missing that XP, and a lot of people think that put the Saints out of the playoffs that year, which isn't true. BUT, the one I remember, is the missed field goal in the 2006 NFC championship game, with the score 14-17. The missed field goal gave the Bears good field position, they went on to score, and the Saints never recovered. Look, nothing against the man, but he's 45, and he's missing some cheap shots.
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11-04-2009, 06:36 AM	#29
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11-04-2009, 08:24 AM	#30
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: SO, after Carney missed that short field goal... Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper .. or maybe Elam is not as good as he was after 17 years in the NFL? So far, Carney has attempted 11 field goals, and he's missed 3, with 2 of those 3 in the 30-39 yard range. Because the team has been scoring a lot of points and end up winning games, no one has really made a stink about it - well, I have . Monday was the first time those 3 points could've made a difference since the score was so close. I guess everyone remembers the Jacksonville game, and Carney missing that XP, and a lot of people think that put the Saints out of the playoffs that year, which isn't true. BUT, the one I remember, is the missed field goal in the 2006 NFC championship game, with the score 14-17. The missed field goal gave the Bears good field position, they went on to score, and the Saints never recovered. Look, nothing against the man, but he's 45, and he's missing some cheap shots. I agree with you for the most part but in Carney's defense it wasn't him that missed the kick against the Bears, it was Cundiff but he was in there because Carney didn't have the leg strength to try it so I guess it is indirectly Carney's miss.