Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David

Saint_LB · 12-22-2009, 07:27 PM

He hasn't been burnt enough to be compared to David...yet. However, I think the fact that people are being hired off the street to play CB shows you what the staff thinks about his ability to play CB, and if he wants to stay in the NFL he better start thinking in terms of safety. Getting paid to play safety is better than not getting paid at all.

strato · 12-22-2009, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

He hasn't been burnt enough to be compared to David...yet. However, I think the fact that people are being hired off the street to play CB shows you what the staff thinks about his ability to play CB, and if he wants to stay in the NFL he better start thinking in terms of safety. Getting paid to play safety is better than not getting paid at all.

Bingo!!! theres nothing wrong with being a probowl safety...do it M.J

CantonLegend · 12-22-2009, 07:45 PM

how does getting beat deep prove that he is a better safety? if anything it proves otherwise

he plays well and does his job......the problem is that when he doesnt have safety help over the top he gets beat.....when we give the QB that much time anybody could get beat deep......the real issue is the pressure we are not putting on opposing QBs

he is also a rookie.....you cant ask a rookie to cover the best receiver on a team and then blitz the house or not blitz anyone....either way the QB will still get a lot of time to make decisions because we havent figured how to blitz like we were earlier this year

Joker · 12-22-2009, 08:11 PM

I certainly hope the Saint's players don't start finger pointing like some of the people posting on this thread. IMO everyone needs to take a look in the mirror to see what he could have done better in that game and go from there.

2nd and 8 Homo throws to the left side pass is broken up by Porter, 3rd and 8 Homo passes to the right and completes for a 30 or 40 yard gain who was covering?

Wasn't Jenkins, give the guy a break he is a rookie with alot left to learn

strato · 12-22-2009, 08:35 PM

Ive just come to the conclusion that Jenkins will be our future free safety..Greer and Porter are our starting corners...and if it comes playoff time do you want Jenkins starting?..That would scare the bejeezus out of me..This is not a knock on Jenkins...the coaches im sure know whats up and they had to play him there..Lets just hope Greer and Porter stay healthy till the last second of the Supwerbowl! Im not gonna rag on him anymore..

jeanpierre · 12-22-2009, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

He hasn't been burnt enough to be compared to David...yet...

Well let's not lose that many games to find out but...

This is what the guy who passed on Reggie Bush for Mario Williams had to say about Malcolm Jenkins...

Originally Posted by Charley Casserly CBS Sports[url=http://www.cbssports.com/cbssports/story/12695614/saturday-stunner-highlighted-saints-weaknesses-cowboys-strenghts

The Saturday stunner highlighted Saints weaknesses, Cowboys strenghts...
The first matchup problem the Saints have is at the corners, in particular rookie cornerback Malcolm Jenkins. I had some questions about Jenkins playing man to man in off coverage when he came out of college. He doesn't have the hips, turn speed and acceleration to make the quick adjustments athletically to cover a wide receiver. I saw this in both the Redskins and Giants games...

Just another perspective...

strato · 12-22-2009, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Well let's not lose that many games to find out but...

This is what the guy who passed on Reggie Bush for Mario Williams had to say about Malcolm Jenkins...

Just another perspective...

I saw the same thing...but i thought in the Washington game that the sloppy field played into the slow recovery speed...but i saw it even worse in the Dallas game..i know some of what his problem is being a rookie..and hope it doesnt hurt us anymore..thats all im saying...Let him learn in the offseason..keep him in on special teams ..he excels there..and maybe nickel situations..Jabari cant get back soon enough...

Budsdrinker · 12-23-2009, 09:54 AM

MJ is looking in the backfield too much right now thinking he can catch up to the receiver. Well that's not going to happen in the NFL. He will have plenty of tape to look at in the off season and see his mistakes and he will be better next year.

foreverfan · 12-23-2009, 10:40 AM

MJ reminds me of another CB. Chris Gamble of Carolina. The same thinks were said about him coming out of college and his first couple of years in the league. It turned out ok.

Chris Gamble Profile - Carolina Panthers - ESPN

Rugby Saint II · 12-23-2009, 12:54 PM

Whew! I can't believe I actually had the stomach to finish this thread. There were some good pojnts made and some rather silly points made as well. What do you think about agreeing to disagree and keep things from getting personal? Anyway, Jenkins is still a rookie and has the potential to be a very good NFL player. It'll take a little time to sort out where. I believe that GW is very capable of making that decision.

12-22-2009, 07:27 PM	#91
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David He hasn't been burnt enough to be compared to David...yet. However, I think the fact that people are being hired off the street to play CB shows you what the staff thinks about his ability to play CB, and if he wants to stay in the NFL he better start thinking in terms of safety. Getting paid to play safety is better than not getting paid at all.
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12-22-2009, 07:35 PM	#92
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by Saint_LB He hasn't been burnt enough to be compared to David...yet. However, I think the fact that people are being hired off the street to play CB shows you what the staff thinks about his ability to play CB, and if he wants to stay in the NFL he better start thinking in terms of safety. Getting paid to play safety is better than not getting paid at all. Bingo!!! theres nothing wrong with being a probowl safety...do it M.J

12-22-2009, 07:45 PM	#93
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David how does getting beat deep prove that he is a better safety? if anything it proves otherwise he plays well and does his job......the problem is that when he doesnt have safety help over the top he gets beat.....when we give the QB that much time anybody could get beat deep......the real issue is the pressure we are not putting on opposing QBs he is also a rookie.....you cant ask a rookie to cover the best receiver on a team and then blitz the house or not blitz anyone....either way the QB will still get a lot of time to make decisions because we havent figured how to blitz like we were earlier this year
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

12-22-2009, 08:11 PM	#94
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David I certainly hope the Saint's players don't start finger pointing like some of the people posting on this thread. IMO everyone needs to take a look in the mirror to see what he could have done better in that game and go from there. 2nd and 8 Homo throws to the left side pass is broken up by Porter, 3rd and 8 Homo passes to the right and completes for a 30 or 40 yard gain who was covering? Wasn't Jenkins, give the guy a break he is a rookie with alot left to learn

12-22-2009, 08:35 PM	#95
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Ive just come to the conclusion that Jenkins will be our future free safety..Greer and Porter are our starting corners...and if it comes playoff time do you want Jenkins starting?..That would scare the bejeezus out of me..This is not a knock on Jenkins...the coaches im sure know whats up and they had to play him there..Lets just hope Greer and Porter stay healthy till the last second of the Supwerbowl! Im not gonna rag on him anymore..
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12-22-2009, 09:00 PM	#96
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by Saint_LB He hasn't been burnt enough to be compared to David...yet... Well let's not lose that many games to find out but... This is what the guy who passed on Reggie Bush for Mario Williams had to say about Malcolm Jenkins... Originally Posted by Charley Casserly CBS Sports[url=http://www.cbssports.com/cbssports/story/12695614/saturday-stunner-highlighted-saints-weaknesses-cowboys-strenghts The Saturday stunner highlighted Saints weaknesses, Cowboys strenghts... The first matchup problem the Saints have is at the corners, in particular rookie cornerback Malcolm Jenkins. I had some questions about Jenkins playing man to man in off coverage when he came out of college. He doesn't have the hips, turn speed and acceleration to make the quick adjustments athletically to cover a wide receiver. I saw this in both the Redskins and Giants games... Just another perspective...

12-22-2009, 09:10 PM	#97
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by jeanpierre Well let's not lose that many games to find out but... This is what the guy who passed on Reggie Bush for Mario Williams had to say about Malcolm Jenkins... Just another perspective... I saw the same thing...but i thought in the Washington game that the sloppy field played into the slow recovery speed...but i saw it even worse in the Dallas game..i know some of what his problem is being a rookie..and hope it doesnt hurt us anymore..thats all im saying...Let him learn in the offseason..keep him in on special teams ..he excels there..and maybe nickel situations..Jabari cant get back soon enough...

12-23-2009, 09:54 AM	#98
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David MJ is looking in the backfield too much right now thinking he can catch up to the receiver. Well that's not going to happen in the NFL. He will have plenty of tape to look at in the off season and see his mistakes and he will be better next year.

12-23-2009, 10:40 AM	#99
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David MJ reminds me of another CB. Chris Gamble of Carolina. The same thinks were said about him coming out of college and his first couple of years in the league. It turned out ok. Chris Gamble Profile - Carolina Panthers - ESPN

12-23-2009, 12:54 PM	#100
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Whew! I can't believe I actually had the stomach to finish this thread. There were some good pojnts made and some rather silly points made as well. What do you think about agreeing to disagree and keep things from getting personal? Anyway, Jenkins is still a rookie and has the potential to be a very good NFL player. It'll take a little time to sort out where. I believe that GW is very capable of making that decision.