Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David

Tobias-Reiper · 12-20-2009, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

This is weird. I don't remember replying to this thread. In fact I seem to remember putting this
response on another thread. Any hoo, maybe I was more drunk than I thought. Let me say this
now, I don't blame jenkins for the loss, but I do blame the defense for GIVING UP TOO MANY
BIG PLAYS. Now which one of u guys are going to disagree with that? Like I said in another
post, I don't mind losing, if they play a complete game, but they did not. The defense has got
to start showing up start to finish, instead of ONLY when the game is on the line.

Are you blaming the defense as well for only scoring 3 points in 3+ quarters?
Are you blaming the defense as well for holding the Cowboys to 3 points after Brees fumbled on the Saints 30?
Are you blaming the defense as well for Devery dropping that ball in the endzone?

Maybe you don't get this, but if my defense is pitching 3-and-outs every series, I start calling my offense more agressively, which is what the Cowboys did. after the first 2 series, the defense pretty much held the Cowboys, and started getting to Romo, but the Saints offense kept on going 3-and-out and turning the ball over.

I am not saying the defense played outstanding, but the offense was pathetic. The Saints offense scored 17 points and turned the ball over 3 times.

QBREES9 · 12-20-2009, 02:17 PM

Jenkins is a ROOKIE !!!!!!!!!

strato · 12-20-2009, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by pakowitz

This thread really has no substance. In fact. I disagree about how Jenkins played. He got beat a few times bit that's expected. One he's a freaking rookie. Two he's playing against Dallas who is one of the top passing teams in the league. Three we got hardly no pressure last night and romo had all day to throw. And to say that we won't win with Jenkins is a rediculous statement.

Jenkins is a safety..not a corner that has been obvious the past three weeks..and when Greer comes back we will see how bad he really played..i know he's a rookie but that shouldnt effect his speed..i hate seeing him get burned, but thats going to happen with speedy recievers...

leilung · 12-20-2009, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Jenkins is a ROOKIE !!!!!!!!!

I wish folks would stop chanting that mantra as if it makes everything OK. It doesn't.

Bottom line- he's a starting CB in the NFL on a team in playoff contention. It's not OK to give up big plays. He needs to cover the man first and look for opportunity to pick second, and it doesn't look like he's doing that lately.

NOpride · 12-20-2009, 04:13 PM

I'd rather him look like Jason David his rookie season instead of 5 years down the road when we really depend on him

iceshack149 · 12-20-2009, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

I wish folks would stop chanting that mantra as if it makes everything OK. It doesn't.

Bottom line- he's a starting CB in the NFL on a team in playoff contention. It's not OK to give up big plays. He needs to cover the man first and look for opportunity to pick second, and it doesn't look like he's doing that lately.

Well if the rookie thing doesn't do it for you then how about the fact that he is a 4th string CB forced into a starters role due to injuries?

Trial by fire. He played well in the beginning of the year mostly on special teams and should be a good CB for this team down the road.

UK_WhoDat · 12-20-2009, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Well if the rookie thing doesn't do it for you then how about the fact that he is a 4th string CB forced into a starters role due to injuries?

Trial by fire. He played well in the beginning of the year mostly on special teams and should be a good CB for this team down the road.

or Free Safety?

MATHIUS · 12-20-2009, 06:59 PM

i always thought, with cb's u can usually tell early if a player has it or not. look at vontae davis, derrel revis, and tracy porter last year. they all played at a high level as a rookie starter. jenkins doesnt seem to have what it takes to cover a guy on the outside. start grooming him for safety now so he has some experience for when sharper is gone.

hagan714 · 12-20-2009, 07:07 PM

Dallas figureed it out; make Jenkins cover as much ground as you can in coverage. He can not cover speed. That was proven during his senior year. I still say he has all pro S written all over him. SS or FS.

strato · 12-20-2009, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Dallas figureed it out; make Jenkins cover as much ground as you can in coverage. He can not cover speed. That was proven during his senior year. I still say he has all pro S written all over him. SS or FS.

I told my son this after that first long td to teeth...Dallas watched film and saw..how to exploit Malcolm...Damn them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-20-2009, 02:09 PM	#51
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by saintpaul25 This is weird. I don't remember replying to this thread. In fact I seem to remember putting this response on another thread. Any hoo, maybe I was more drunk than I thought. Let me say this now, I don't blame jenkins for the loss, but I do blame the defense for GIVING UP TOO MANY BIG PLAYS. Now which one of u guys are going to disagree with that? Like I said in another post, I don't mind losing, if they play a complete game, but they did not. The defense has got to start showing up start to finish, instead of ONLY when the game is on the line. Are you blaming the defense as well for only scoring 3 points in 3+ quarters? Are you blaming the defense as well for holding the Cowboys to 3 points after Brees fumbled on the Saints 30? Are you blaming the defense as well for Devery dropping that ball in the endzone? Maybe you don't get this, but if my defense is pitching 3-and-outs every series, I start calling my offense more agressively, which is what the Cowboys did. after the first 2 series, the defense pretty much held the Cowboys, and started getting to Romo, but the Saints offense kept on going 3-and-out and turning the ball over. I am not saying the defense played outstanding, but the offense was pathetic. The Saints offense scored 17 points and turned the ball over 3 times.
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12-20-2009, 02:17 PM	#52
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Jenkins is a ROOKIE !!!!!!!!!

12-20-2009, 02:22 PM	#53
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by pakowitz This thread really has no substance. In fact. I disagree about how Jenkins played. He got beat a few times bit that's expected. One he's a freaking rookie. Two he's playing against Dallas who is one of the top passing teams in the league. Three we got hardly no pressure last night and romo had all day to throw. And to say that we won't win with Jenkins is a rediculous statement. Jenkins is a safety..not a corner that has been obvious the past three weeks..and when Greer comes back we will see how bad he really played..i know he's a rookie but that shouldnt effect his speed..i hate seeing him get burned, but thats going to happen with speedy recievers...

12-20-2009, 03:33 PM	#54
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,361	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by QBREES9 Jenkins is a ROOKIE !!!!!!!!! I wish folks would stop chanting that mantra as if it makes everything OK. It doesn't. Bottom line- he's a starting CB in the NFL on a team in playoff contention. It's not OK to give up big plays. He needs to cover the man first and look for opportunity to pick second, and it doesn't look like he's doing that lately.

12-20-2009, 04:13 PM	#55
NOpride Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 25	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David I'd rather him look like Jason David his rookie season instead of 5 years down the road when we really depend on him
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12-20-2009, 05:24 PM	#56
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,241 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by leilung I wish folks would stop chanting that mantra as if it makes everything OK. It doesn't. Bottom line- he's a starting CB in the NFL on a team in playoff contention. It's not OK to give up big plays. He needs to cover the man first and look for opportunity to pick second, and it doesn't look like he's doing that lately. Well if the rookie thing doesn't do it for you then how about the fact that he is a 4th string CB forced into a starters role due to injuries? Trial by fire. He played well in the beginning of the year mostly on special teams and should be a good CB for this team down the road.

12-20-2009, 05:36 PM	#57
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,881	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by iceshack149 Well if the rookie thing doesn't do it for you then how about the fact that he is a 4th string CB forced into a starters role due to injuries? Trial by fire. He played well in the beginning of the year mostly on special teams and should be a good CB for this team down the road. or Free Safety?

12-20-2009, 06:59 PM	#58
MATHIUS Leave no doubts Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 316	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David i always thought, with cb's u can usually tell early if a player has it or not. look at vontae davis, derrel revis, and tracy porter last year. they all played at a high level as a rookie starter. jenkins doesnt seem to have what it takes to cover a guy on the outside. start grooming him for safety now so he has some experience for when sharper is gone.
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12-20-2009, 07:07 PM	#59
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Dallas figureed it out; make Jenkins cover as much ground as you can in coverage. He can not cover speed. That was proven during his senior year. I still say he has all pro S written all over him. SS or FS.

12-20-2009, 07:16 PM	#60
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by hagan714 Dallas figureed it out; make Jenkins cover as much ground as you can in coverage. He can not cover speed. That was proven during his senior year. I still say he has all pro S written all over him. SS or FS. I told my son this after that first long td to teeth...Dallas watched film and saw..how to exploit Malcolm...Damn them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!