Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David

UK_WhoDat · 12-20-2009, 09:28 AM

poydras' rant has some substance. Cos Jenkins is get seriously exposed for the long one. But my angle is that the Saints' secondary should be playing better as a group. Especially when we know we have a rookie, not playing at perhaps his best position, on the field.

ArmySaintFan · 12-20-2009, 11:16 AM

Wow!! Why is it we always have to have a scapegoat??? why can't the loss be a team effort?? I mean why can't we blame bush for the loss too?? everyone always does, or hell lets blame it on Jason David! how about this Jenkins is a rookie with alot to learn he isn't very speedy so he will have to learn to rely on play instead of speed, the loss was a team effort defense played bad offense played bad and Brees was way off most of the night!

Its amazing to see this after only one loss, I am glad I wasn't a member here during the 05 season!! WOW, Looking alot like SR in here today (except I won't get banned to posting this!)

ArmySaintFan · 12-20-2009, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

Back before the season started there was a debate about whether we really needed Jenkins, who was holding out. I remember the poster said he was too slow to play corner and people here were dissing that person and asking what "credentials" he had to be able to make that statement. For the past few weeks, in almost every opposing team's highlight plays you can see that number 27 getting burned. He was so bad tonight we would have been better off playing 10 on defense. I'll never doubt that poster's "credentials" again. He was right.

I VOTE...... - REP

CantonLegend · 12-20-2009, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by ArmySaintFan

Wow!! Why is it we always have to have a scapegoat??? why can't the loss be a team effort?? I mean why can't we blame bush for the loss too?? everyone always does, or hell lets blame it on Jason David! how about this Jenkins is a rookie with alot to learn he isn't very speedy so he will have to learn to rely on play instead of speed, the loss was a team effort defense played bad offense played bad and Brees was way off most of the night!

Its amazing to see this after only one loss, I am glad I wasn't a member here during the 05 season!! WOW, Looking alot like SR in here today (except I won't get banned to posting this!)

lol now now

the difference is that at the other place everybody would be jumping on to agree with him.......here we dont allow that garbage and it is very obvious in this thread how things like this are handled

SaintPauly · 12-20-2009, 11:37 AM

This is weird. I don't remember replying to this thread. In fact I seem to remember putting this
response on another thread. Any hoo, maybe I was more drunk than I thought. Let me say this
now, I don't blame jenkins for the loss, but I do blame the defense for GIVING UP TOO MANY
BIG PLAYS. Now which one of u guys are going to disagree with that? Like I said in another
post, I don't mind losing, if they play a complete game, but they did not. The defense has got
to start showing up start to finish, instead of ONLY when the game is on the line.

TheDeuce · 12-20-2009, 12:49 PM

Yes, they gave up some big plays, and they're definitely part of the reason we lost. Another big part is being minus three in the turnover battle. Can't do that and expect to win games. The offense struggled mightily until the fourth quarter. My point is, this was a team loss. Everybody on the team, offense, defense, special teams, had some part in losing this game. Singling out a rookie cornerback and saying it's his fault is moronic.

mikesaintfan · 12-20-2009, 01:05 PM

this loss falls on the offense..after the first 14pts(which came after two , 3 and outs i think) the defense didnt play bad for having so many starters out

saintsfan1976 · 12-20-2009, 01:08 PM

The line of players, plays, coaches and injuries to blame is so long that I've already moved on.

BEAT TAMPA BAY!!

AND BEAT THEM BAAAAAD.

DrewDat · 12-20-2009, 01:34 PM

It was a couple players faults we can't blame just one. And we can use the saying "your only as strong as your weakest link" It's ok we can honestly say we loss more games on accident then other teams won on purpose

pakowitz · 12-20-2009, 01:59 PM

This thread really has no substance. In fact. I disagree about how Jenkins played. He got beat a few times bit that's expected. One he's a freaking rookie. Two he's playing against Dallas who is one of the top passing teams in the league. Three we got hardly no pressure last night and romo had all day to throw. And to say that we won't win with Jenkins is a rediculous statement.

12-20-2009, 09:28 AM	#41
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David poydras' rant has some substance. Cos Jenkins is get seriously exposed for the long one. But my angle is that the Saints' secondary should be playing better as a group. Especially when we know we have a rookie, not playing at perhaps his best position, on the field.
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12-20-2009, 11:16 AM	#42
ArmySaintFan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 171	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Wow!! Why is it we always have to have a scapegoat??? why can't the loss be a team effort?? I mean why can't we blame bush for the loss too?? everyone always does, or hell lets blame it on Jason David! how about this Jenkins is a rookie with alot to learn he isn't very speedy so he will have to learn to rely on play instead of speed, the loss was a team effort defense played bad offense played bad and Brees was way off most of the night! Its amazing to see this after only one loss, I am glad I wasn't a member here during the 05 season!! WOW, Looking alot like SR in here today (except I won't get banned to posting this!)

12-20-2009, 11:22 AM	#43
ArmySaintFan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 171	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by poydras Back before the season started there was a debate about whether we really needed Jenkins, who was holding out. I remember the poster said he was too slow to play corner and people here were dissing that person and asking what "credentials" he had to be able to make that statement. For the past few weeks, in almost every opposing team's highlight plays you can see that number 27 getting burned. He was so bad tonight we would have been better off playing 10 on defense. I'll never doubt that poster's "credentials" again. He was right. I VOTE...... - REP

12-20-2009, 11:36 AM	#44
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Originally Posted by ArmySaintFan Wow!! Why is it we always have to have a scapegoat??? why can't the loss be a team effort?? I mean why can't we blame bush for the loss too?? everyone always does, or hell lets blame it on Jason David! how about this Jenkins is a rookie with alot to learn he isn't very speedy so he will have to learn to rely on play instead of speed, the loss was a team effort defense played bad offense played bad and Brees was way off most of the night! Its amazing to see this after only one loss, I am glad I wasn't a member here during the 05 season!! WOW, Looking alot like SR in here today (except I won't get banned to posting this!) lol now now the difference is that at the other place everybody would be jumping on to agree with him.......here we dont allow that garbage and it is very obvious in this thread how things like this are handled

12-20-2009, 11:37 AM	#45
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David This is weird. I don't remember replying to this thread. In fact I seem to remember putting this response on another thread. Any hoo, maybe I was more drunk than I thought. Let me say this now, I don't blame jenkins for the loss, but I do blame the defense for GIVING UP TOO MANY BIG PLAYS. Now which one of u guys are going to disagree with that? Like I said in another post, I don't mind losing, if they play a complete game, but they did not. The defense has got to start showing up start to finish, instead of ONLY when the game is on the line.
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12-20-2009, 12:49 PM	#46
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David Yes, they gave up some big plays, and they're definitely part of the reason we lost. Another big part is being minus three in the turnover battle. Can't do that and expect to win games. The offense struggled mightily until the fourth quarter. My point is, this was a team loss. Everybody on the team, offense, defense, special teams, had some part in losing this game. Singling out a rookie cornerback and saying it's his fault is moronic.
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12-20-2009, 01:05 PM	#47
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David this loss falls on the offense..after the first 14pts(which came after two , 3 and outs i think) the defense didnt play bad for having so many starters out

12-20-2009, 01:08 PM	#48
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David The line of players, plays, coaches and injuries to blame is so long that I've already moved on. BEAT TAMPA BAY!! AND BEAT THEM BAAAAAD.

12-20-2009, 01:34 PM	#49
DrewDat DOMEPATROL Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Jacksonville,Florida Due To Military Obligation Posts: 479	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David It was a couple players faults we can't blame just one. And we can use the saying "your only as strong as your weakest link" It's ok we can honestly say we loss more games on accident then other teams won on purpose

12-20-2009, 01:59 PM	#50
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: Malcolm Jenkins=Jason David This thread really has no substance. In fact. I disagree about how Jenkins played. He got beat a few times bit that's expected. One he's a freaking rookie. Two he's playing against Dallas who is one of the top passing teams in the league. Three we got hardly no pressure last night and romo had all day to throw. And to say that we won't win with Jenkins is a rediculous statement.