The idea is not so far reaching. I'm convinced the league gave Pittsburgh their last two superbowls through BS calls. Two offensive pass interferences aginst the Seahawks and three missed illegal blocks on the 99 yard int return against the Cards. I fully believe they want to see Favre win another and go out on top. But they also could want a Colts/Saints SB as well for the obvious connections. I do think we will get the wrong end of at least a couple calls against the Vikings however. It is something we will just have to overcome on the way to the SB.

Please

You probably think there was only one ref betting on games in the NBA too. I say please to your naivety.

Hmm how far will the nfl go to get us out?..this is their last chance..the vikes will have some extra help from the zebras i think

My point is that there are obvious cases where the league has shown preference to certain teams and players and the Saints have never been one of them while Favre has. From terrible calls to "home" games overseas, the list of ways the league has wronged us goes on and on. I'm not going to throw out names in a sweeping net attempt to accuse anyone. But just because your wife is not aware of any bias doesn't mean it isn't there. I'm not surprised the perpetrators, whoever they are, did not share it with her. I have seen too many examples of it happen. You can believe it is bad luck or human error. I believe dollars has more to do with it. It is like the Jordan rules in basketball or the steroid era in baseball. When star players and teams win games and put up big stats it attracts more fans, and that is what they are hoping for. It doesn't take a big secretive agenda to realize the league sells more tickets, sells more merchandise, and sells more TV time to sponsors when certain teams and players win.

Dollars are the exact reason the NFL is super-anal about keeping its nose clean.

Do you have any idea how much $$$$ the NFL would lose if it EVER came out that there was some kind of fix? That's the exact reason that there is no conspiracy. The amount of money they stand to lose if exposed far far far exceeds anything they would hope to gain by a conspiracy.

If you think it's fixed - why do you still watch? Why bother? If the outcome is pre-determined, it kind of takes the fun out of it doesn't it?

This kind of tinfoil hat crap is what fans of losers hide behind to explain why their team sucks. Newsflash- Saints don't suck.

Boy, that "logic" didn't stop rich people like Bernie Madoff risking their fortunes to make a little more now did it? Martha Stuart went to jail for a few thousand dollars. The NBA is still making millions despite proof that they had refs cheating and betting on games. Your argument that they wouldn't risk what they have for a little more is empty.

I watch because I love the Saints and hope that the league will call the game fair or to our side. For most of this year (and mostly since Katrina) they have. I never said it was completely predetermined, only that there is a bias. Read what I wrote rather than put words in my mouth. I said I expect us to have to overcome some bad calls to beat the Vikings, not that it was predetermined we would lose. Sorry if you cannot understand the difference. If you want to deny the countless number of times it has happened to us in our history that is fine with me. I prefer to keep my eyes open and be realistic.

Newsflash to you - there have been plenty cases where the Saints have lost games in their past due to poor calls by the refs. It has nothing to do with sucking. The Niner teams of the 80's got evey call in games against us because they were the darlings of the league. The Dome Patrol teams didn't suck, but they got shafted sure enough.