Originally Posted by CantonLegend
the pro bowl is voted on by not only peers, but fans as well
I'm not 100% on this but alternates have nothing to do with the fans voting of the Pro Bowl starters.
you notice how many more fans we have this year? a lot of those fans are just bandwagon fans and a lot of the votes that goodwin got as well as most of our players, are bandwagon votes
From players and coaches right?
i believe he made the pro bowl because of the success of the team.....not because of his ability as a player
I'm sure that's how the coaches and players pick... they go straight to the team with the best record and start selecting all the players on those team... not because they're any good.
not necessarily.....but usually you can tell who the better players are by who makes the most money.....you wouldnt expect a good player to make the least and you wouldnt expect a terrible player to make a lot
My point in this was to point out that more money doesn't mean you're the better player. But obviously good players typically get paid more... but that's not always the case.
there is a very good reason why faine was paid so much and goodwin comes a lot cheaper
Imo, he is the better player but was overpaid by the Bucs in a thin market for centers.
does anybody in cleveland get the recognition or respect they deserve? the short answer is NO......faine was part of a good line here in new orleans but he was the only bright spot on the offensive line in cleveland.....
Yes? Maybe not by you but when Braylon Edwards had that one great year, he was recognized by everyone. When Andra Davis was at the top of his game, I certainly knew who he was. Joe Thomas right now is considered as one of the best tackles in the league. Everyone knew Winslow was a bright young emerging player in the league. I'm quite sure coaches gameplan against Cribbs on Sundays.
his last year in cleveland he helped reuben droughns become the first 1000 yard rusher in new era browns history......even tho you didnt hear of him....i still watched him in cleveland and people that know football were not happy to see him go because we was so good
I know exactly who Droughns is. He was a backup in Denver prior to going to Cleveland. He played some fullback and running back in Denver. He even had a 1,000 yard season there. Let's not pretend you're the only person who knows the guy... I watch a LOT of football. Don't insult my intelligence... "people who know football"... ROFL. As far as I'm concerned, there's 5 people that play on the OL(didn't know I knew that did you!?) Each had an instrumental part in helping him obtaining his second 1,000 yard season... not just Faine.
coming to new orleans didnt make him good....it just made him recognizeable....faine is a top 5 center in the league and he gets paid like it
I'm sure Cleveland felt that way... which is why they decided to trade him being that "top 5" center he was in this league. That makes so much sense don't you agree?
other than the pro bowl thing, this portion of your post has nothing to do with goodwin......all you are sayin is that you are happy with how our team has played and you wouldnt make any significant changes to the team......in fact....the only part that has to do with goodwin....the pro bowl part.....also doesnt prove that he is better
Huh? Did I say he's the better player? Did I even imply that? In fact I've said Faine is better in my opinion. Let me break it down for you... we are playing at a high level right now with Goodwin under center, at a significant fraction of the cost, and he's been recognized by his colleagues as a pretty good center in this league... so right now, I wouldn't have it any other way than have Goodwin on our line. I don't understand how I wrote a whole paragraph about Goodwin yet you say what I wrote has nothing to do with him.
you probably didnt know that faine was in fact a pro bowler despite all the hate he got from posters here in 2007
LOL I was one of Faine's biggest supporters, if not the biggest one, on this board during his days here. Ask Euphoria... lol. Didn't know? Get your nose out the clouds... there are people who actually DO know football around these parts.
because i was wrong about pierre you think im wrong about everybody......
Pierre Thomas, Heath Evans, Jonathan Goodwin, Jason Kyle, etc. There are more... I just don't feel like going over all those threads finding them all.
i was man enough to admit how wrong i was about PT.....why wouldnt i do the same thing about goodwin if in fact he did prove me wrong? i dont have any kind of grudge against goodwin.....i want him to play well and when/if he does, i'll give him all the credit he deserves
Like I said... one day Goodwin, one day.
until then, name me 5 starting centers that are worse than him
I don't feel like playing this game. We're 14-3, have one of the best offensive lines in the league, and our center is a ProBowler. I'm sure you can figure that out on your own.
01-21-2010, 06:08 PM
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