COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D.

eleazar · 01-25-2010, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by indy4192

I really hope the Saints think the same way you do. The Colts D is so much better then many want to give it credit. This so called average D just dominated two of the best rushing teams in the NFL and minus the final two games of the season, finished 3rd overall in least amount of points given up. The colts are where they are BECAUSE of both the D and Peyton.

I think the point some are trying to make is that while it is undeniable that you shut down 2 of the best rushing attacks in the league, you shut down 2 teams that pretty much rely on only the run and struggle throwing the ball.

An offense like the Saints will keep the Indy D honest by mixing it up. We are effective at both running and passing.

Also, when it is the last two teams in the league playing, I don't think anyone things that either team has glaring weaknesses.

braggbro1 · 01-25-2010, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by FlexDefense

Brees is very much a rhythm passer. When he is on, he is on fire. When he is not, he overthrows like he did last night. The Colts will need to throw the Saints off their timing routes and bring enough heat from the outside to force Drew up into the pocket.

Covering Wayne, Garcon, Collie, and Clark won't be easy. Manning is going to short pass them down the field waiting for the right opportunity to strike. It is all going to come down to time of possession and if Manning can keep our defense on the field.

Yea I remember this from his days at Purdue. When he's on, it really doesn't matter what the defense throws at him but it seems there were sometimes a quarter or so in any given game where he couldn't get into rhythm and drives would stall. That can be said for any quarterback to some extent but when a great one like Brees loses his rhythm it always catches me off guard and I notice it more.

saintfan · 01-25-2010, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

yes they r not. did n e one see favre's head, looks like a punching bag. He hinted he thought we were dirty. waaaaaaaa

Dirty is BS.

In baseball (although not so much these days) when a batter crowds the plate you throw at his effin head and take that real estate back (or at least you should). That's baseball.

In football you knock the crap out of the QB, and that's how the game should be played. You wanna be the 'star' QB? Fine. Get ready. That's the NFL I remember, and it's unfortunate the NFL is trying so hard to protect the QB's, but we didn't do anything illegal, and those Personal Foul flags were the NFL trying desperately to protect the old man.

On the reverse Brett was in the play and got his a$$ handed to him...BS flag notwithstanding.

On the driving into the ground BS call he got tackled...hard...nothing more and nothing dirty.

And on every other play we knocked the crap out of him because that's how to get him out of his game. That's football, and Brett, old man that he is, knows it full well.

braggbro1 · 01-25-2010, 04:11 PM

eleazar. I love your avatar. You need to get your activity level up and make the board an even better place.

strato · 01-25-2010, 04:17 PM

If we can pressure Peyton..we can win... that simple...

indy4192 · 01-25-2010, 05:15 PM

12 teams this season have tried, and not one has been successful. You can not stop Peyton, you have to only hope to contain him. We put 30 up on the No. 1 ranked D, so you gotta figure your O is going to have to put up at least 38-45 to have a shot at winning....

Originally Posted by strato

If can pressure Peyton..we can win... that simple...

strato · 01-25-2010, 05:25 PM

I think our D-line with the help of scheme will do just enough to make him uncomfortable..

indy4192 · 01-25-2010, 05:36 PM

Well you would be the first this season to do that.

Originally Posted by strato

I think our D-line with the help of scheme will do just enough to make him uncomfortable..

FlexDefense · 01-25-2010, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by indy4192

Well you would be the first this season to do that.

We have a very opportunistic defense. They can take chances because of our explosive offense. Williams is going to draw up schemes waiting for Manning to mess up. Manning is going to audible at the line waiting for the Saints to do the same. If you like football strategy, you are going to love Manning vs. Williams.

strato · 01-25-2010, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by indy4192

Well you would be the first this season to do that.

Theres a first time for everything...if your team plays half as bad as that food yall got up there i know we win..lol..sorry man i like my seasonings..

01-25-2010, 03:32 PM	#41
eleazar Rookie Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Denton, TX via NOLA Posts: 13	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by indy4192 I really hope the Saints think the same way you do. The Colts D is so much better then many want to give it credit. This so called average D just dominated two of the best rushing teams in the NFL and minus the final two games of the season, finished 3rd overall in least amount of points given up. The colts are where they are BECAUSE of both the D and Peyton. I think the point some are trying to make is that while it is undeniable that you shut down 2 of the best rushing attacks in the league, you shut down 2 teams that pretty much rely on only the run and struggle throwing the ball. An offense like the Saints will keep the Indy D honest by mixing it up. We are effective at both running and passing. Also, when it is the last two teams in the league playing, I don't think anyone things that either team has glaring weaknesses.

01-25-2010, 04:09 PM	#42
braggbro1 Registered Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by FlexDefense Brees is very much a rhythm passer. When he is on, he is on fire. When he is not, he overthrows like he did last night. The Colts will need to throw the Saints off their timing routes and bring enough heat from the outside to force Drew up into the pocket. Covering Wayne, Garcon, Collie, and Clark won't be easy. Manning is going to short pass them down the field waiting for the right opportunity to strike. It is all going to come down to time of possession and if Manning can keep our defense on the field. Yea I remember this from his days at Purdue. When he's on, it really doesn't matter what the defense throws at him but it seems there were sometimes a quarter or so in any given game where he couldn't get into rhythm and drives would stall. That can be said for any quarterback to some extent but when a great one like Brees loses his rhythm it always catches me off guard and I notice it more.
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01-25-2010, 04:10 PM	#43
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by spkb25 yes they r not. did n e one see favre's head, looks like a punching bag. He hinted he thought we were dirty. waaaaaaaa Dirty is BS. In baseball (although not so much these days) when a batter crowds the plate you throw at his effin head and take that real estate back (or at least you should). That's baseball. In football you knock the crap out of the QB, and that's how the game should be played. You wanna be the 'star' QB? Fine. Get ready. That's the NFL I remember, and it's unfortunate the NFL is trying so hard to protect the QB's, but we didn't do anything illegal, and those Personal Foul flags were the NFL trying desperately to protect the old man. On the reverse Brett was in the play and got his a$$ handed to him...BS flag notwithstanding. On the driving into the ground BS call he got tackled...hard...nothing more and nothing dirty. And on every other play we knocked the crap out of him because that's how to get him out of his game. That's football, and Brett, old man that he is, knows it full well.

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braggbro1 Registered Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. eleazar. I love your avatar. You need to get your activity level up and make the board an even better place.
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indy4192 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 122	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. 12 teams this season have tried, and not one has been successful. You can not stop Peyton, you have to only hope to contain him. We put 30 up on the No. 1 ranked D, so you gotta figure your O is going to have to put up at least 38-45 to have a shot at winning.... Originally Posted by strato If can pressure Peyton..we can win... that simple...
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indy4192 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 122	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Well you would be the first this season to do that. Originally Posted by strato I think our D-line with the help of scheme will do just enough to make him uncomfortable..
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01-25-2010, 08:17 PM	#49
FlexDefense Registered Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 36	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by indy4192 Well you would be the first this season to do that. We have a very opportunistic defense. They can take chances because of our explosive offense. Williams is going to draw up schemes waiting for Manning to mess up. Manning is going to audible at the line waiting for the Saints to do the same. If you like football strategy, you are going to love Manning vs. Williams.
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01-25-2010, 08:22 PM	#50
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: COLTS D isn't like the Vikes D. Originally Posted by indy4192 Well you would be the first this season to do that. Theres a first time for everything...if your team plays half as bad as that food yall got up there i know we win..lol..sorry man i like my seasonings..