Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning

spkb25 · 01-28-2010, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by braggbro1

You remember incorrectly. They were 3-0 and they kept your offense out of the endzone until late in the 4th quarter. You won because of 2 turnovers returned for touchdowns.

You are better than the Jets but they have the better defense and it doesn't matter if you guys are missing anyone or at full strength.

Okay- I give you that that their D is better, but their offense is like a men to boys scenario. That would be with us being the men. Both teams you played had limited passing attacks. Good luck competing against an offense that does both well. Does that mean we are going to win this game- of course not, but to pretend that beating the Jets and Ravens is the same as beating us- ummm okay- hope your team feels the same way.

We played a team as good as the Colts in my opinion. This game comes down to running the ball and defense- I like our chances in both areas. That said this game will be extremely extremely tough- for both teams, but I hope everyone keeps counting us out. Just the way I like it.

SaintPauly · 01-28-2010, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by braggbro1

You remember incorrectly. They were 3-0 and they kept your offense out of the endzone until late in the 4th quarter. You won because of 2 turnovers returned for touchdowns.

You are better than the Jets but they have the better defense and it doesn't matter if you guys are missing anyone or at full strength.

I stand corrected. It was a long time ago.

I would also point out, the best game, in my opinion, to compare the Colts, and the Saints, would be the Patriots game. They were both played at home for both teams. If we were going to gauge both offenses, and defenses.

JoanieNTX · 01-28-2010, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by braggbro1

So you think you'd be better than the Jets if you had them all year?

Ummmmm, yeahhhhh! We already beat the Jets once this year in a big way, dude. Stats can be very misleading. Don't say you didn't hear it here, k?

braggbro1 · 01-28-2010, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by JoanieNTX

Ummmmm, yeahhhhh! We already beat the Jets once this year in a big way, dude. Stats can be very misleading. Don't say you didn't hear it here, k?

Like I said, you beat the Jets but they kept YOUR offense, the best in the league, without a touchdown until late in the fourth quarter. Their defense is better than yours and it's not really even a debate for anyone that's being honest with themselves.

spkb25 · 01-28-2010, 11:16 AM

I wonder how much of this is smoke and mirrors- try to rattle PM B4 even hitting the field. I wonder if we will show a lot of blitz then drop back in coverage or vary it up. Probably the latter, but interesting to guess at

JoanieNTX · 01-28-2010, 11:23 AM

As far as road games....the Saints have always been a pretty good road team. I know Sean has said that he likes away games sometimes because he has an easier time eliminating distractions. So....we'll see!

SaintPauly · 01-28-2010, 11:26 AM

The point I am trying to make is, with healthy corners, even on the road, we got pressure, on pretty much every team we played, on the road. Now, WITHOUT, our starting corners, against the Patriots, we shut down both of their star receivers, and teed off on Brady. I will give the TE edge to the Colts, but I wouldn't say Collier is better than Wes Welker. You take Collier out, in one on one, and that leaves Clark, and Wayne, or Addai, but our defense has been known to shut down offenses like this before.

I am not jumping any guns here, believe me. I reallize that the Colts are a great team, and this will be a great test for us, no doubt. Just comparing teams, that's all.

braggbro1 · 01-28-2010, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

The point I am trying to make is, with healthy corners, even on the road, we got pressure, on pretty much every team we played, on the road. Now, WITHOUT, our starting corners, against the Patriots, we shut down both of their star receivers, and teed off on Brady. I will give the TE edge to the Colts, but I wouldn't say Collier is better than Wes Welker. You take Collier out, in one on one, and that leaves Clark, and Wayne, or Addai, but our defense has been known to shut down offenses like this before.

I am not jumping any guns here, believe me. I reallize that the Colts are a great team, and this will be a great test for us, no doubt. Just comparing teams, that's all.

That New England comparison is fine except for you're leaving out the entire pass protection element of both offenses. The Patriots, in 2009, were not even in the same league as the Colts in terms of protecting the quarterback. Not even close.

spkb25 · 01-28-2010, 11:28 AM

I do give a huge edge to the Colts having been there before... Hopefully SP having been there with the Giants will help a lot

jnormand · 01-28-2010, 12:52 PM

LOL! Nice LB!

01-28-2010, 11:24 AM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Originally Posted by braggbro1 You remember incorrectly. They were 3-0 and they kept your offense out of the endzone until late in the 4th quarter. You won because of 2 turnovers returned for touchdowns. You are better than the Jets but they have the better defense and it doesn't matter if you guys are missing anyone or at full strength. Okay- I give you that that their D is better, but their offense is like a men to boys scenario. That would be with us being the men. Both teams you played had limited passing attacks. Good luck competing against an offense that does both well. Does that mean we are going to win this game- of course not, but to pretend that beating the Jets and Ravens is the same as beating us- ummm okay- hope your team feels the same way. We played a team as good as the Colts in my opinion. This game comes down to running the ball and defense- I like our chances in both areas. That said this game will be extremely extremely tough- for both teams, but I hope everyone keeps counting us out. Just the way I like it.
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01-28-2010, 11:34 AM	#2
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Originally Posted by braggbro1 You remember incorrectly. They were 3-0 and they kept your offense out of the endzone until late in the 4th quarter. You won because of 2 turnovers returned for touchdowns. You are better than the Jets but they have the better defense and it doesn't matter if you guys are missing anyone or at full strength. I stand corrected. It was a long time ago. I would also point out, the best game, in my opinion, to compare the Colts, and the Saints, would be the Patriots game. They were both played at home for both teams. If we were going to gauge both offenses, and defenses.

01-28-2010, 11:15 AM	#3
JoanieNTX 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 825	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Originally Posted by braggbro1 So you think you'd be better than the Jets if you had them all year? Ummmmm, yeahhhhh! We already beat the Jets once this year in a big way, dude. Stats can be very misleading. Don't say you didn't hear it here, k?

01-28-2010, 11:21 AM	#4
braggbro1 Registered Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Originally Posted by JoanieNTX Ummmmm, yeahhhhh! We already beat the Jets once this year in a big way, dude. Stats can be very misleading. Don't say you didn't hear it here, k? Like I said, you beat the Jets but they kept YOUR offense, the best in the league, without a touchdown until late in the fourth quarter. Their defense is better than yours and it's not really even a debate for anyone that's being honest with themselves.
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01-28-2010, 11:16 AM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning I wonder how much of this is smoke and mirrors- try to rattle PM B4 even hitting the field. I wonder if we will show a lot of blitz then drop back in coverage or vary it up. Probably the latter, but interesting to guess at

01-28-2010, 11:23 AM	#6
JoanieNTX 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 825	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning As far as road games....the Saints have always been a pretty good road team. I know Sean has said that he likes away games sometimes because he has an easier time eliminating distractions. So....we'll see!

01-28-2010, 11:26 AM	#7
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning The point I am trying to make is, with healthy corners, even on the road, we got pressure, on pretty much every team we played, on the road. Now, WITHOUT, our starting corners, against the Patriots, we shut down both of their star receivers, and teed off on Brady. I will give the TE edge to the Colts, but I wouldn't say Collier is better than Wes Welker. You take Collier out, in one on one, and that leaves Clark, and Wayne, or Addai, but our defense has been known to shut down offenses like this before. I am not jumping any guns here, believe me. I reallize that the Colts are a great team, and this will be a great test for us, no doubt. Just comparing teams, that's all.
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01-28-2010, 11:36 AM	#8
braggbro1 Registered Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Originally Posted by saintpaul25 The point I am trying to make is, with healthy corners, even on the road, we got pressure, on pretty much every team we played, on the road. Now, WITHOUT, our starting corners, against the Patriots, we shut down both of their star receivers, and teed off on Brady. I will give the TE edge to the Colts, but I wouldn't say Collier is better than Wes Welker. You take Collier out, in one on one, and that leaves Clark, and Wayne, or Addai, but our defense has been known to shut down offenses like this before. I am not jumping any guns here, believe me. I reallize that the Colts are a great team, and this will be a great test for us, no doubt. Just comparing teams, that's all. That New England comparison is fine except for you're leaving out the entire pass protection element of both offenses. The Patriots, in 2009, were not even in the same league as the Colts in terms of protecting the quarterback. Not even close.
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01-28-2010, 11:28 AM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning I do give a huge edge to the Colts having been there before... Hopefully SP having been there with the Giants will help a lot

01-28-2010, 12:52 PM	#10
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