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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre I don't like Cody, especially if we stay in a 4-3 front; I just don't like the big guys who don't have the discipline to control their weight; it tends to translate into their effort and ...

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Old 03-01-2010, 08:52 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
I don't like Cody, especially if we stay in a 4-3 front; I just don't like the big guys who don't have the discipline to control their weight; it tends to translate into their effort and play on the field...
he dropped over 15 lbs in less than 30 days

i know people dont get that but its not easier for heavier people to lose weight simply because they have more weight

its actually harder

cody will play in the nfl at 350.....he had no problems controlling his weight

you guys just cant get past sullivan.....he is not sullivan....his work ethic has been proven

he pushes the pocket and creates opportunities for everyone else
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Old 03-01-2010, 09:09 PM   #2
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guess what defense we ran in the most famous play in saints history....guess how many down linemen we had

NFL Videos: SB XLIV Can't-Miss Play: Porter seals it

now this video......we ran the 3-4 almost exclusively. 2 of the 4 plays we ran a 4-3 were at the goalline and 1 of the plays we ran it outside of the redzone they ran right up the middle.....right at our weakness

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and last but not least....guess how many times we ran a set with 4 down linemen in this highlight.....dont guess more than 1 cuz you'll be wrong

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Old 03-02-2010, 11:03 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by CantonLegend View Post
he dropped over 15 lbs in less than 30 days

i know people dont get that but its not easier for heavier people to lose weight simply because they have more weight

its actually harder

cody will play in the nfl at 350.....he had no problems controlling his weight

you guys just cant get past sullivan.....he is not sullivan....his work ethic has been proven

he pushes the pocket and creates opportunities for everyone else
SO WHY DID HE NOT STAY IN SHAPE TO BEGIN WITH...

AND LARGER PEOPLE CAN ADD AND DROP 10 POUNDS IN A WEEK; IT'S THE LAST TEN-FIFTEEN THAT ARE HARDER TO LOSE/KEEP OFF...

YOU WANT DIESEL; A GUY THAT MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY IS AS READY IN FEBRUARY AS HE IS IN NOVEMBER...

CODY WOULDN'T BE A R1 NOR A R2 PICK IF I'M A GM; HE DOESN'T HAVE THE GREAT BURST A 4-3 TACKLE NEEDS...

PLUS, WE JUST INVESTED A FEW PICKS IN THE VILMA TRADE; VILMA LEFT NYJ BECAUSE THEY SHIFTED TO A 3-4; YOU'RE NOW SAYING WE SHOULD GEAUX TO A 3-4 AS WELL...

I'm just sayin...

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SO WHY DID HE NOT STAY IN SHAPE TO BEGIN WITH...

AND LARGER PEOPLE CAN ADD AND DROP 10 POUNDS IN A WEEK; IT'S THE LAST TEN-FIFTEEN THAT ARE HARDER TO LOSE/KEEP OFF...

YOU WANT DIESEL; A GUY THAT MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY IS AS READY IN FEBRUARY AS HE IS IN NOVEMBER...

CODY WOULDN'T BE A R1 NOR A R2 PICK IF I'M A GM; HE DOESN'T HAVE THE GREAT BURST A 4-3 TACKLE NEEDS...

PLUS, WE JUST INVESTED A FEW PICKS IN THE VILMA TRADE; VILMA LEFT NYJ BECAUSE THEY SHIFTED TO A 3-4; YOU'RE NOW SAYING WE SHOULD GEAUX TO A 3-4 AS WELL...

I'm just sayin...
why does everything have to be in caps? its obvious you want a response or you wouldnt have made your post so prominent

he didnt stay in shape, IMO, because football was over....for the first time in 8 years he was allowed to take a break. but thats just me guessing

let me let you in on a little secret...im no little guy....nobody in my family is a little guy.....and it has never been easy for me to lose 10 lbs regardless of how hard i work out......now gaining weight for me is much much easier....im just speaking from personal experience but losing weight isnt easy for anyone....and its especially hard for bigger people because they usually arent in shape

football is over after the super bowl in february.....after that i dont care what the players do....after 10 months of football they should get at least a 2 month break.....dont you think? as long as they show up to play when the season starts i dont care what they looked like during the offseason

i know you're not a GM.....fwiw neither am i.....everybody has an opinion....mine just happens to be better than yours lol

also....we invested 1 draft pick in vilma.......and he didnt leave NY because he didnt wanna play in the 3-4.....he left NY because the trade required him to. he was upset about how he was used in the 3-4 defense but despite being our defensive captain......he is only 1 player.....if we need to run a 3-4 then we should run a 3-4.....if we need to run a defense with no defensive linemen.....then do that.....gregg williams knows what we need.....NOT JONATHAN VILMA.....

i really feel like thats why everybody doesnt want us to switch to the 3-4 but 1 player doesnt make a team....especially in football....vilma is crucial to our success.....but he is only 1 player......and he was mostly unhappy because the jets stunk....nobody cares what their role is when you are winning

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre
SO WHY DID HE NOT STAY IN SHAPE TO BEGIN WITH...

AND LARGER PEOPLE CAN ADD AND DROP 10 POUNDS IN A WEEK; IT'S THE LAST TEN-FIFTEEN THAT ARE HARDER TO LOSE/KEEP OFF...

YOU WANT DIESEL; A GUY THAT MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY IS AS READY IN FEBRUARY AS HE IS IN NOVEMBER...

CODY WOULDN'T BE A R1 NOR A R2 PICK IF I'M A GM; HE DOESN'T HAVE THE GREAT BURST A 4-3 TACKLE NEEDS...

PLUS, WE JUST INVESTED A FEW PICKS IN THE VILMA TRADE; VILMA LEFT NYJ BECAUSE THEY SHIFTED TO A 3-4; YOU'RE NOW SAYING WE SHOULD GEAUX TO A 3-4 AS WELL...
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I'm just sayin...
why does everything have to be in caps? its obvious you want a response or you wouldnt have made your post so prominent

he didnt stay in shape, IMO, because football was over....for the first time in 8 years he was allowed to take a break. but thats just me guessing

let me let you in on a little secret...im no little guy....nobody in my family is a little guy.....and it has never been easy for me to lose 10 lbs regardless of how hard i work out......now gaining weight for me is much much easier....im just speaking from personal experience but losing weight isnt easy for anyone....and its especially hard for bigger people because they usually arent in shape

football is over after the super bowl in february.....after that i dont care what the players do....after 10 months of football they should get at least a 2 month break.....dont you think? as long as they show up to play when the season starts i dont care what they looked like during the offseason

i know you're not a GM.....fwiw neither am i.....everybody has an opinion....mine just happens to be better than yours lol

also....we invested 1 draft pick in vilma.......and he didnt leave NY because he didnt wanna play in the 3-4.....he left NY because the trade required him to. he was upset about how he was used in the 3-4 defense but despite being our defensive captain......he is only 1 player.....if we need to run a 3-4 then we should run a 3-4.....if we need to run a defense with no defensive linemen.....then do that.....gregg williams knows what we need.....NOT JONATHAN VILMA.....

i really feel like thats why everybody doesnt want us to switch to the 3-4 but 1 player doesnt make a team....especially in football....vilma is crucial to our success.....but he is only 1 player......and he was mostly unhappy
because the jets stunk....nobody cares what their role is when you are winning

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Originally Posted by CantonLegend View Post
why does everything have to be in caps? its obvious you want a response or you wouldnt have made your post so prominent
Don't be one of those handwriting analyst, using a keyboard in the other office that has a jammed Caps Lock key...

Originally Posted by CantonLegend View Post
he didnt stay in shape, IMO, because football was over....for the first time in 8 years he was allowed to take a break. but thats just me guessing
That's just it; to be the best you can be; to expect to have millions of dollars invested in you as an athlete (even a DT); you have to stay in shape year round...

Originally Posted by CantonLegend View Post
football is over after the super bowl in february.....after that i dont care what the players do....after 10 months of football they should get at least a 2 month break.....dont you think?
Don't let Drew Brees hear you say that...

Originally Posted by CantonLegend View Post
...we invested 1 draft pick in vilma...and he didnt leave NY because he didnt wanna play in the 3-4...he left NY because the trade required him to. he was upset about how he was used in the 3-4 defense but despite being our defensive captain...he is only 1 player...if we need to run a 3-4 then we should run a 3-4...if we need to run a defense with no defensive linemen...then do that...gregg williams knows what we need...NOT JONATHAN VILMA..?
Canton, you're right; it's not one guy; and the personalities we have on defense, coaches included, are a collection of faster, leaner, attack types; all Cody looks to know to attack is the left side of the McDonalds menu...

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We came out of training camp/preseason cuts with three (3) defensive tackles...

We added as the season progressed; but we had a tenious defensive line at best which played above themselves, thankfully...

If a great players falls, you take the BPA; but you got to draft/trade to improve the front seven on defense...
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
We came out of training camp/preseason cuts with three (3) defensive tackles...

We added as the season progressed; but we had a tenious defensive line at best which played above themselves, thankfully...

If a great players falls, you take the BPA; but you got to draft/trade to improve the front seven on defense...
i dont know if anyone can imagine us going through the entire draft without addressing defensive tackle

i think our first 2 or 3 picks will all be DT and DE.....im not sure that LB is as huge of a need as the down lineman positions but im sure they will address that in the draft too

i also believe we will address an offensive position somewhere in the draft. maybe TE or WR in rounds 3 or 4
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i think our first 2 or 3 picks will all be DT and DE...
And we can only hope...
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:47 PM   #10
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First round pick is a moot issue because we are going to sign Ronnie Brown and hand our pick to the Dolphins. Cha Ching!
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