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Saint_LB 03-14-2010 05:28 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 213054)
.....we dont have a LT if we get rid of brown.....

I think there is one Mr. Bushrod that would say...



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...and we only won a SB without him!

jeanpierre 03-14-2010 07:46 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 213054)
there is no reason to trade brown at all.....we just dont have the kind of depth to do something that stupid

***Newsflash***

Jammal Brown Out for Season...Saints Win Superbowl

Saints didn't have him all season and yet still had depth and adequate play...

Look, he's about to become a FA and we can't afford to tie up that much money in a natural RT playing LT...

which is why you trade 'em and get either a younger, elite LT in R1 or pick up one in the draft or FA with a more acceptable contract...

and are you going to sign Brown, an older injured player, tying up funds that you'll need to retain someone like Carl Nicks?

and Drew Brees has shown that the quarterback is as important to a low sack total statistic as the Left Tackle (Right-handed Quarterback)...

CantonLegend 03-14-2010 05:20 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 213078)
I think there is one Mr. Bushrod that would say...
...and we only won a SB without him!

that argument is weak........we won a super bowl because of bushrod? no

in fact......bushrod gave up a sack to an injured dwight freeney who couldnt even walk right, let alone rush an edge correctly

we went from the least sacked team in the league when we threw more than any other team, to 22 sacks on a team that threw the ball only the 10th most

that is a significant increase and yes, id rather have a 5 yard penalty due to false start in one game than have drew get hit twice in that same game

we may only have a RT playing LT, but that LT is a pro bowler....hes a proven run blocker.....hes one of the 10 best LTs in the league.....and he protects the most valuable player in the league

are you willing to rest drews health in the hands of bushrod? im not and drafting a tackle is always risky

you want us to waste our first round pick this year on a LT? then what? trade up and pick a DT or LB? then we are out of picks

its stupid to waste a pick on a LT when we have a proven LT and have much much much more pressing needs

in fact.......id venture to say that we are completely set at QB, G, and T......but everything else could be considered a solid draft pick

OldMaid 03-14-2010 06:37 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft
 
jeanpierre:D,too funny about good teams reloading.
CantonLegend:D, thanks for that info about Saints scounts, what it seems they go for and where they go to often pick. Interesting,what you said.
homer:D,I agree with you about Loomis and co.

jeanpierre 03-15-2010 08:09 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 213100)
that argument is weak........we won a super bowl because of bushrod? no

not because of Bushrod..."despite" not having a Probowler at LT...

with committments to Stinchcomb, Evans, and the contract extenstion of Nicks coming up, Saints can't afford Brown at LT...

please read the entire argument...

Saint_LB 03-15-2010 09:43 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by CantonLegend (Post 213100)
that argument is weak........we won a super bowl because of bushrod? no

No, my argument is quite simple. We won a superbowl with a team that did not include Brown. How good do you want this team to be? Does money, age, and health ever become a factor?

CantonLegend 03-15-2010 01:54 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 213173)
not because of Bushrod..."despite" not having a Probowler at LT...

with committments to Stinchcomb, Evans, and the contract extenstion of Nicks coming up, Saints can't afford Brown at LT...

please read the entire argument...

i read the entire argument....i commented on the part that i wanted to comment on

brown is worthy of whatever contract he wants.....bushrod proved that for him this season......monetarily we may not be able to afford brown.....but talent wise we cant afford to lose brown

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 213177)
No, my argument is quite simple. We won a superbowl with a team that did not include Brown. How good do you want this team to be? Does money, age, and health ever become a factor?

i want this team to be great for a long time.....getting rid of a pro bowl tackle does not make us better and you cant deny that

there isnt a single thing you could say that would make bushrod better than brown....not money, not talent, not wins......we didnt win because of bushrod...in fact.....we didnt go undefeated because of bushrod

do you really think brown would've let demarcus ware beat us? lmao

bushrod had nothing to do with our success.....in fact, our offense was hindered by bushrod.....constantly having to slide protection to that side.....constantly having to stack that side of the line so that bushrod didnt look silly out there

what part of brown is an elite tackle dont you understand?

jeanpierre 03-17-2010 11:56 PM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft
 
Walter Jones of Seattle was a ProBowl tackle; had an injury; Seattle gave him a big fat contract and let Hutchinson geaux to Minnesota; Jones career went south and took Shaun Alexander with him...

Sound familiar?

Got to sign guys as they trend upward; Brown's value will never be higher and it's just time...

CantonLegend 03-18-2010 10:40 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 213676)
Walter Jones of Seattle was a ProBowl tackle; had an injury; Seattle gave him a big fat contract and let Hutchinson geaux to Minnesota; Jones career went south and took Shaun Alexander with him...

Sound familiar?

Got to sign guys as they trend upward; Brown's value will never be higher and it's just time...

hutchinson left

nicks did not

in fact......nicks is just beginning to reach the prime of his career.....he will help brown a lot

there isnt a single thing that bushrod does better than brown and there isnt a single tackle in this draft that looks like they could protect drew's blind side

and why would we pick a LT when we need players at DT, DE, and LB? no reason to trade a player that we need for an unproven draft pick

jeanpierre 04-03-2010 11:40 AM

Re: 2010 NFL Draft
 
JeanPierre's 2010 NFL Draft Wish List

R1 Brian Price, DT, UCLA or Jerry Hughes, TCU

R2 Toby Gerhardt, RB, Stanford or Koa Misi, OLB/DE, Utah

R3 Torell Troup, NT, UCF or Dorrin Dickerson, TE, Pitt

R4 Eric Olsen, C, UND or Austen Lane, DE, Murray State

R5 D’Anthony Smith, DT, LaTech or Marshall Newhouse, OL, TCU

R6 E.J. Wilson, DE, UNC or Derek Hardman, OT, EKU

R7 Nate Collins, DT, UVA or Larry Hart, OLB, CAU


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