Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints (Cleveland signs Jake)

MorningWood · 03-12-2010, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

Jake is an older QB at 35. JD is a first string QB still.
Brees is 31 and is a strong QB and Saints first string QB. What will Jake do? Sit on the bench.
The cost for JakeD is a lot of money. NFL is a business, but this is kind of like a stab to Brees, you know.

How is signing a backup QB a stab at Brees?

Make no mistake about it, whoever we go with is going to be in the role of backup and is going to be paid backup money. If JD is not on board with either of those conditions then he disqualifies himself.

darstep · 03-12-2010, 11:48 AM

I like the Jake backup scenario if the price is right. He could actually come in the game and move the team if we needed him to. Brees could care less about who his #2 or #3 is. Its all about team success, PERIOD! This team needs a good backup if Brees goes down and Delomme would do a good job.

jnormand · 03-12-2010, 11:51 AM

I don't care anymore...if we sign him great....if not WGAS.

B_Dub_Saint · 03-12-2010, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I don't care anymore...if we sign him great....if not WGAS.

Im with you there. All I know is we need a quality back up.

Papa Voodoo · 03-12-2010, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

What fad?
What are you and saintsfan talking about?
I am lost.

Fluite and whoever that other Qb that stunk in Buffalo was

Drew Bledsoe and some guy named Tom Brady

Fluite and was it Mr. Brees in San Diego?

Clevland

Giants (Warner and was it Eli?)

Arizona (Leinart and Warner)

Cowboys (Bledsoe and Johnson)

I think Vick, Steve Mcnair and McNabb also had this problem.

Any team that had 2 decent QB's a few years ago where a team was struggling got intense press coverage about which QB should be the starter and it put huge pressure on the coaches and the teams. It's part of the game, but it really flared up then.

So, Haslett stuck with AB and let Jake go to keep it at bay because we were pretty good and had won the 1st playoff game in Saints history.

If we sign Jake and we lose some games, the first person that says we should play Jake over Drew, "because I like him, he took the Panthers to the SB, and he's from here." is getting a noogie.

gumbeau · 03-12-2010, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by darstep

Brees could care less about who his #2 or #3 is.

This is wrong. The backup quarterback plays a vital role in this offense and Brunell has done an exceptional job in that role. Delhomme is a dope and would be nothing more than a body in a uniform.

I much prefer a smart experienced backup able to see things for Drew when Drew is on the field rather than some fan favorite who everyone hopes never takes a snap and obviously has trouble reading a defense. Delhomme would be no help to Drew.

stockman311 · 03-12-2010, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

It's this simple...no Drew = losing season. Manning has never had a worthy back up because evryone knows the Colts will do nothing without him. Same for us. Pass on Delhomme and bring in a young QB to develop.

BTW...Haslett was scared to put Jake in when AB's shoulder was torn up because of the "fad" the press was having at the time with QB controversies. Delhomme would have done well, AB would be coming off surgery and Haslett would be in a tough spot. Delhomme would have likely become our starter the next season if we lost some early games, Drew Brees would not have come here and we would still not be World Champions.

I would say your first paragraph is just flat wrong. If Drew were to sprain his ankle and be out for 3 weeks, would Delhomme or Brunnell do a better job of keeping the ship afloat until Drew get's back. That's the only question we should be asking really. That and is Delhomme as good of a place kicking holder. If Drew is out for 4 weeks or more then we probably don't make the playoffs.

UK_WhoDat · 03-12-2010, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

......If Drew is out for 4 weeks or more then we probably don't make the playoffs.

Correct.

JoanieNTX · 03-12-2010, 02:44 PM

Whoever we sign, I just want them to be someone who doesn't harbor resentment towards the Saints organization, and who is committed to keeping the team on track as a quality football team. He needs to really WANT to be here!

Papa Voodoo · 03-12-2010, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by stockman311

I would say your first paragraph is just flat wrong. If Drew were to sprain his ankle and be out for 3 weeks, would Delhomme or Brunnell do a better job of keeping the ship afloat until Drew get's back. That's the only question we should be asking really. That and is Delhomme as good of a place kicking holder. If Drew is out for 4 weeks or more then we probably don't make the playoffs.

I agree. I meant season-ending injury. Drew almost blew out his knee in the Cardinals game when a D linemen fell into his knee. I'm pretty sure the Vikings would have destroyed us the next week if Jake or Mark were in there.

If Chase isn't the guy then I say bring in a young QB that has what it takes and work him up. I'd rather the team spend money on the D than Jake.

03-12-2010, 10:59 AM	#51
MorningWood 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 180	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints Originally Posted by OldMaid Jake is an older QB at 35. JD is a first string QB still. Brees is 31 and is a strong QB and Saints first string QB. What will Jake do? Sit on the bench. The cost for JakeD is a lot of money. NFL is a business, but this is kind of like a stab to Brees, you know. How is signing a backup QB a stab at Brees? Make no mistake about it, whoever we go with is going to be in the role of backup and is going to be paid backup money. If JD is not on board with either of those conditions then he disqualifies himself.
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03-12-2010, 11:48 AM	#52
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints I like the Jake backup scenario if the price is right. He could actually come in the game and move the team if we needed him to. Brees could care less about who his #2 or #3 is. Its all about team success, PERIOD! This team needs a good backup if Brees goes down and Delomme would do a good job.

03-12-2010, 11:51 AM	#53
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints I don't care anymore...if we sign him great....if not WGAS.

03-12-2010, 12:01 PM	#54
B_Dub_Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 2,345 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints Originally Posted by jnormand I don't care anymore...if we sign him great....if not WGAS. Im with you there. All I know is we need a quality back up.

03-12-2010, 12:29 PM	#55
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints Originally Posted by OldMaid What fad? What are you and saintsfan talking about? I am lost. Fluite and whoever that other Qb that stunk in Buffalo was Drew Bledsoe and some guy named Tom Brady Fluite and was it Mr. Brees in San Diego? Clevland Giants (Warner and was it Eli?) Arizona (Leinart and Warner) Cowboys (Bledsoe and Johnson) I think Vick, Steve Mcnair and McNabb also had this problem. Any team that had 2 decent QB's a few years ago where a team was struggling got intense press coverage about which QB should be the starter and it put huge pressure on the coaches and the teams. It's part of the game, but it really flared up then. So, Haslett stuck with AB and let Jake go to keep it at bay because we were pretty good and had won the 1st playoff game in Saints history. If we sign Jake and we lose some games, the first person that says we should play Jake over Drew, "because I like him, he took the Panthers to the SB, and he's from here." is getting a noogie.

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03-12-2010, 12:53 PM	#56
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 519	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints Originally Posted by darstep Brees could care less about who his #2 or #3 is. This is wrong. The backup quarterback plays a vital role in this offense and Brunell has done an exceptional job in that role. Delhomme is a dope and would be nothing more than a body in a uniform. I much prefer a smart experienced backup able to see things for Drew when Drew is on the field rather than some fan favorite who everyone hopes never takes a snap and obviously has trouble reading a defense. Delhomme would be no help to Drew.

03-12-2010, 01:05 PM	#57
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo It's this simple...no Drew = losing season. Manning has never had a worthy back up because evryone knows the Colts will do nothing without him. Same for us. Pass on Delhomme and bring in a young QB to develop. BTW...Haslett was scared to put Jake in when AB's shoulder was torn up because of the "fad" the press was having at the time with QB controversies. Delhomme would have done well, AB would be coming off surgery and Haslett would be in a tough spot. Delhomme would have likely become our starter the next season if we lost some early games, Drew Brees would not have come here and we would still not be World Champions. I would say your first paragraph is just flat wrong. If Drew were to sprain his ankle and be out for 3 weeks, would Delhomme or Brunnell do a better job of keeping the ship afloat until Drew get's back. That's the only question we should be asking really. That and is Delhomme as good of a place kicking holder. If Drew is out for 4 weeks or more then we probably don't make the playoffs.

03-12-2010, 01:47 PM	#58
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,983	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints Originally Posted by stockman311 ......If Drew is out for 4 weeks or more then we probably don't make the playoffs. Correct.

03-12-2010, 02:44 PM	#59
JoanieNTX 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 825	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints Whoever we sign, I just want them to be someone who doesn't harbor resentment towards the Saints organization, and who is committed to keeping the team on track as a quality football team. He needs to really WANT to be here!

03-12-2010, 02:47 PM	#60
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints Originally Posted by stockman311 I would say your first paragraph is just flat wrong. If Drew were to sprain his ankle and be out for 3 weeks, would Delhomme or Brunnell do a better job of keeping the ship afloat until Drew get's back. That's the only question we should be asking really. That and is Delhomme as good of a place kicking holder. If Drew is out for 4 weeks or more then we probably don't make the playoffs. I agree. I meant season-ending injury. Drew almost blew out his knee in the Cardinals game when a D linemen fell into his knee. I'm pretty sure the Vikings would have destroyed us the next week if Jake or Mark were in there. If Chase isn't the guy then I say bring in a young QB that has what it takes and work him up. I'd rather the team spend money on the D than Jake.