Owners pass Overtime rule proposal

03-23-2010, 04:47 PM

Just plain stupid.

Tobias-Reiper · 03-23-2010, 04:54 PM

...hmmm..so what happens if the kicking team decides to kick an onsides kick? If they recover, since they lost the coin toss, would they still be able to win it with a field goal, or by rule would the other team HAVE to have a possession?

CantonLegend · 03-23-2010, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

...hmmm..so what happens if the kicking team decides to kick an onsides kick? If they recover, since they lost the coin toss, would they still be able to win it with a field goal, or by rule would the other team HAVE to have a possession?

very curious

maybe they have forfeited their possession by giving up an onside kick?

of course nobody probably expected this to be an issue because nobody ever expects the secret ambush play in the super bowl

unless you have the iphone app that reads sean payton's mind

gumbeau · 03-23-2010, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

...hmmm..so what happens if the kicking team decides to kick an onsides kick? If they recover, since they lost the coin toss, would they still be able to win it with a field goal, or by rule would the other team HAVE to have a possession?

Both teams get at least one possession unless the first team scores a touchdown.

What they did not address is who wins if the first team scores a field goal, kicks onside, recovers and scores another field goal.

I cannot wait for this scenario to develop and I know just the coach to do it.

CantonLegend · 03-23-2010, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by gumbeau

Both teams get at least one possession unless the first team scores a touchdown.

What they did not address is who wins if the first team scores a field goal, kicks onside, recovers and scores another field goal.

I cannot wait for this scenario to develop and I know just the coach to do it.

hmm......i thinks the NFL ****ed up

st thomas · 03-23-2010, 05:15 PM

just wondering, the vikqeens voted no. they did'nt want the cry baby lengend on there back?

Papa Voodoo · 03-23-2010, 05:20 PM

More drama = more money. I would have left it alone. The team winning the toss still has to execute and so does the D. You have the whole game to produce a different outcome.

Can they defer it?

Tobias-Reiper · 03-23-2010, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by gumbeau

Both teams get at least one possession unless the first team scores a touchdown.
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That's what I am really curious about. Is this new rule GUARANTEEING possession for both teams? I mentioned the onside kick, but what about muffed kick offs recovered by the kicking team? Would the muff count as your possession, or you are still guaranteed a possession?

Or what if the kicking team onside kicks, recovers,scores a FG, then onside kicks and recovers again? Is the game over, or still both teams are guaranteed a possession?

Or maybe even the kicking team doing 2 successful onside kicks on a row, and scoring a FG and a TD or 2 TDs?

SAINT_MICHAEL · 03-23-2010, 05:35 PM

I would guess that the team that is designated to receive the kick (wins toss) is on guard so to speak once the kick happens. So if they give up an outsides kick or fumble kickoff, the other team gets to win with a FG. Basically no different than getting the kick and going three and out.

gumbeau · 03-23-2010, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

That's what I am really curious about. Is this new rule GUARANTEEING possession for both teams? I mentioned the onside kick, but what about muffed kick offs recovered by the kicking team? Would the muff count as your possession, or you are still guaranteed a possession?

Or what if the kicking team onside kicks, recovers,scores a FG, then onside kicks and recovers again? Is the game over, or still both teams are guaranteed a possession?

Or maybe even the kicking team doing 2 successful onside kicks on a row, and scoring a FG and a TD or 2 TDs?

I don't think they thought it through very thoroughly. It will make for some interesting commentary from the dopes that call the games on TV.

Does a safety win the game? If you kickoff, your defense scores a safety and the other team has to kick to you. both teams get a possession so a safety should win it.

It would be quite funny to be able to win by scoring two points but have to give the other guy a chance if you score three.

I think we may need lawyers to decide overtime playoff games.

It seems it would have been much easier to keep it sudden death and just eliminate field goals in playoff overtime.

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03-23-2010, 04:54 PM	#12
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal ...hmmm..so what happens if the kicking team decides to kick an onsides kick? If they recover, since they lost the coin toss, would they still be able to win it with a field goal, or by rule would the other team HAVE to have a possession?

03-23-2010, 04:58 PM	#13
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper ...hmmm..so what happens if the kicking team decides to kick an onsides kick? If they recover, since they lost the coin toss, would they still be able to win it with a field goal, or by rule would the other team HAVE to have a possession? very curious maybe they have forfeited their possession by giving up an onside kick? of course nobody probably expected this to be an issue because nobody ever expects the secret ambush play in the super bowl unless you have the iphone app that reads sean payton's mind

03-23-2010, 05:12 PM	#14
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 519	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper ...hmmm..so what happens if the kicking team decides to kick an onsides kick? If they recover, since they lost the coin toss, would they still be able to win it with a field goal, or by rule would the other team HAVE to have a possession? Both teams get at least one possession unless the first team scores a touchdown. What they did not address is who wins if the first team scores a field goal, kicks onside, recovers and scores another field goal. I cannot wait for this scenario to develop and I know just the coach to do it.

03-23-2010, 05:13 PM	#15
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by gumbeau Both teams get at least one possession unless the first team scores a touchdown. What they did not address is who wins if the first team scores a field goal, kicks onside, recovers and scores another field goal. I cannot wait for this scenario to develop and I know just the coach to do it. hmm......i thinks the NFL ****ed up

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Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal More drama = more money. I would have left it alone. The team winning the toss still has to execute and so does the D. You have the whole game to produce a different outcome. Can they defer it?

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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by gumbeau Both teams get at least one possession unless the first team scores a touchdown. . That's what I am really curious about. Is this new rule GUARANTEEING possession for both teams? I mentioned the onside kick, but what about muffed kick offs recovered by the kicking team? Would the muff count as your possession, or you are still guaranteed a possession? Or what if the kicking team onside kicks, recovers,scores a FG, then onside kicks and recovers again? Is the game over, or still both teams are guaranteed a possession? Or maybe even the kicking team doing 2 successful onside kicks on a row, and scoring a FG and a TD or 2 TDs?
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SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal I would guess that the team that is designated to receive the kick (wins toss) is on guard so to speak once the kick happens. So if they give up an outsides kick or fumble kickoff, the other team gets to win with a FG. Basically no different than getting the kick and going three and out.
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03-23-2010, 05:37 PM	#20
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 519	Re: Owners pass Overtime rule proposal Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper That's what I am really curious about. Is this new rule GUARANTEEING possession for both teams? I mentioned the onside kick, but what about muffed kick offs recovered by the kicking team? Would the muff count as your possession, or you are still guaranteed a possession? Or what if the kicking team onside kicks, recovers,scores a FG, then onside kicks and recovers again? Is the game over, or still both teams are guaranteed a possession? Or maybe even the kicking team doing 2 successful onside kicks on a row, and scoring a FG and a TD or 2 TDs? I don't think they thought it through very thoroughly. It will make for some interesting commentary from the dopes that call the games on TV. Does a safety win the game? If you kickoff, your defense scores a safety and the other team has to kick to you. both teams get a possession so a safety should win it. It would be quite funny to be able to win by scoring two points but have to give the other guy a chance if you score three. I think we may need lawyers to decide overtime playoff games. It seems it would have been much easier to keep it sudden death and just eliminate field goals in playoff overtime.