New Orleans Saints uncertain about decisions of Pierre Thomas, Jahri Evans, others

Saint_LB · 04-16-2010, 04:13 AM

Apparently he's convinced the right people. I think if you go back and look at Reggie's all-purpose yards you'll find him consitently over 100 when healthy. If you get a hundred plus by doing a lot of things good, to me it is at least as good as someone who gets that by just doing one thing over and over.

I think most people just miss-out on Reggie's value...can't see it for whatever reason. All I know is that I told my sister-in-law a few years back that if we didn't get Reggie when we had the opportunity that I would no longer be a Saints fan.

You can say what you want, but here it is about 3 years later and we now have a Lombardi and that is something I thought I'd never see. Am I glad that Benson listened to me and went out and got Reggie? Do I have to answer that?

HintOfLogic · 04-16-2010, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

I think most people just miss-out on Reggie's value...can't see it for whatever reason. All I know is that I told my sister-in-law a few years back that if we didn't get Reggie when we had the opportunity that I would no longer be a Saints fan.

You can say what you want, but here it is about 3 years later and we now have a Lombardi and that is something I thought I'd never see. Am I glad that Benson listened to me and went out and got Reggie? Do I have to answer that?

thanks for clarifying everything.....

That first paragraph says it all... like I've said most fans have just as much pride wrapped up in Reggie as the Saints have money. Logical arguments will never be had.

As far as Benson.... I didn't know you had that much influence over him... shucks, I'd have been telling you what you want to hear had I known. But then again it was Payton and Loomis going out and getting him, Benson just handed the blank check.

Saint_LB · 04-16-2010, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by HintOfLogic

, Benson just handed the blank check.

...and that should count for nothing, right.

SaintPauly · 04-16-2010, 04:22 AM

I hear ya LB, but what about Brees? I think for the most part, that Lombardi should have his freaking name on it. Game plans are game plans, and good strategy is a must, but Brees finds the open man, and gets them the ball. That makes him the MVP, and keeps him the MVP.

As far as Reggie goes, as a "featured" back, in a West Coast system, I can remember many great offensive teams, that had exceptional RBs, doing basically the same things as Reggie only better. Marshall Faulk, Brian Westbrook, hell even Julius Jones when he was in Dallas, all had similar job descriptions, but ALL have had better success than Reggie. What I'm saying is that he doesn't deserve this payday. And as far as PT goes, well, I think we all remember that touchdown he scored in the superbowl.... I can't remember the one Reggie scored off hand.....

Saint_LB · 04-16-2010, 04:32 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

I hear ya LB, but what about Brees? I think for the most part, that Lombardi should have his freaking name on it. Game plans are game plans, and good strategy is a must, but Brees finds the open man, and gets them the ball. That makes him the MVP, and keeps him the MVP.

As far as Reggie goes, as a "featured" back, in a West Coast system, I can remember many great offensive teams, that had exceptional RBs, doing basically the same things as Reggie only better. Marshall Faulk, Brian Westbrook, hell even Julius Jones when he was in Dallas, all had similar job descriptions, but ALL have had better success than Reggie. What I'm saying is that he doesn't deserve this payday. And as far as PT goes, well, I think we all remember that touchdown he scored in the superbowl.... I can't remember the one Reggie scored off hand.....

No argument from me about Brees...or Pt, for that matter. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Reggie was part of the greatest gumbo recipe ever for Saints fans. He was kinda like the shrimp. Drew was the rue...PT the crab meat...Colston was the okra...etc. You get what I'm driving at, right?

You see, I don't care how much Reggie makes. I believe that he brings a certain "star" quality to a team that never had one before. I admit that he has had a little trouble living-up to it, but then I remember some of his highlights and realize he has done things that no Saint has ever done before. He just doesn't do them every play like some people expect him to do.

In closing I reiterate. I'm happy with exactly what happened and don't care how much they make or made in the past or will in the future. I'm just happy Reggie is a Saint...and that's mostly the topic (or what it veered to...I hope that wasn't my fault...lol) and why I didn't comment on the others.

HintOfLogic · 04-16-2010, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

No argument from me about Brees...or Pt, for that matter. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Reggie was part of the greatest gumbo recipe ever for Saints fans. He was kinda like the shrimp. Drew was the rue...PT the crab meat...Colston was the okra...etc. You get what I'm driving at, right

Aww B.S.! You aren't about the "Gumbo", you're about Reggie Bush! You're just talking out of your a$$ now.

Case in point.....
What were your comments when we let Bell go? That he wasn't that Great? That he's expendable, replaceable? Did you get all analytical about what piece of Gumbo Bell was to the teams success? Convenient argument you've got going there now that offers whatever validity Reggie provides as a player or ingredient.

then you're going to argue about Reggie offering a certain "star" quality to the team. That's about s far a reach as they come. Think about it, think about the guys that make up this team... do you think they are elevated because they see Reggie and his internet hoe pop up online when they go home? Seriously, these guys. This rooster isn't about that.

And apparently you weren't around when we drafted Ricky Williams. Don't know if you remember, but he was kinda considered a star and believe it or not, he drew more constant media attention. The star value is only for your own personal gratification.

The character of this team isn't defined or influenced by Reggies star status.... It thrives off of the humble and professional persona's like Brees, Pierre, Colston, Vilma, etc.

Saint_LB · 04-16-2010, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by HintOfLogic

Aww B.S.! You aren't about the "Gumbo", you're about Reggie Bush! You're just talking out of your a$$ now.

Case in point.....
What were your comments when we let Bell go? That he wasn't that Great? That he's expendable, replaceable? Did you get all analytical about what piece of Gumbo Bell was to the teams success? Convenient argument you've got going there now that offers whatever validity Reggie provides as a player or ingredient.

then you're going to argue about Reggie offering a certain "star" quality to the team. That's about s far a reach as they come. Think about it, think about the guys that make up this team... do you think they are elevated because they see Reggie and his internet hoe pop up online when they go home? Seriously, these guys. This rooster isn't about that.

And apparently you weren't around when we drafted Ricky Williams. Don't know if you remember, but he was kinda considered a star and believe it or not, he drew more constant media attention. The star value is only for your own personal gratification.

The character of this team isn't defined or influenced by Reggies star status.... It thrives off of the humble and professional persona's like Brees, Pierre, Colston, Vilma, etc.

Let's just put it this way. I'm as much all about Reggie Bush as you are all about trashing him.

SaintPauly · 04-16-2010, 04:36 AM

Overall I can say, that I am very happy with the end result myself. And yes, Reggie has done some amazing things over his career, but IMO, not enough to warrant "star status", I guess. I honestly believe that this 8 million dollar pay out, will only happen one year, and he will restructure in 2011, or he will probably be gone.

Oh by the way... Love the avatar.

Saint_LB · 04-16-2010, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Overall I can say, that I am very happy with the end result myself. And yes, Reggie has done some amazing things over his career, but IMO, not enough to warrant "star status", I guess. I honestly believe that this 8 million dollar pay out, will only happen one year, and he will restructure in 2011, or he will probably be gone.

Oh by the way... Love the avatar.

I agree...he may be gone. For all we know, Payton may be gone...and he might bring Drew with him. Nobody knows the future.

You know, if TC has another bad year up in NY...

SaintPauly · 04-16-2010, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

I agree...he may be gone. For all we know, Payton may be gone...and he might bring Drew with him. Nobody knows the future.

You know, if TC has another bad year up in NY...

Oh come on LB, you're reaching now....

Payton and Brees will be here until the dome collapses. Bush leaving, I think the majority of fans could see, but Brees? There would be a riot! Brees had a 5000 yard season. Bush hasn't had a 1000 yard season since he got into the pros.... Not really comparable bro...

04-16-2010, 04:13 AM	#1
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: New Orleans Saints uncertain about decisions of Pierre Thomas, Jahri Evans, others Apparently he's convinced the right people. I think if you go back and look at Reggie's all-purpose yards you'll find him consitently over 100 when healthy. If you get a hundred plus by doing a lot of things good, to me it is at least as good as someone who gets that by just doing one thing over and over. I think most people just miss-out on Reggie's value...can't see it for whatever reason. All I know is that I told my sister-in-law a few years back that if we didn't get Reggie when we had the opportunity that I would no longer be a Saints fan. You can say what you want, but here it is about 3 years later and we now have a Lombardi and that is something I thought I'd never see. Am I glad that Benson listened to me and went out and got Reggie? Do I have to answer that?
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04-16-2010, 04:34 AM	#2
HintOfLogic 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 194	Re: New Orleans Saints uncertain about decisions of Pierre Thomas, Jahri Evans, others Originally Posted by Saint_LB I think most people just miss-out on Reggie's value...can't see it for whatever reason. All I know is that I told my sister-in-law a few years back that if we didn't get Reggie when we had the opportunity that I would no longer be a Saints fan. You can say what you want, but here it is about 3 years later and we now have a Lombardi and that is something I thought I'd never see. Am I glad that Benson listened to me and went out and got Reggie? Do I have to answer that? thanks for clarifying everything..... That first paragraph says it all... like I've said most fans have just as much pride wrapped up in Reggie as the Saints have money. Logical arguments will never be had. As far as Benson.... I didn't know you had that much influence over him... shucks, I'd have been telling you what you want to hear had I known. But then again it was Payton and Loomis going out and getting him, Benson just handed the blank check.
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04-16-2010, 04:36 AM	#3
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: New Orleans Saints uncertain about decisions of Pierre Thomas, Jahri Evans, others Originally Posted by HintOfLogic , Benson just handed the blank check. ...and that should count for nothing, right.
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04-16-2010, 04:22 AM	#4
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: New Orleans Saints uncertain about decisions of Pierre Thomas, Jahri Evans, others I hear ya LB, but what about Brees? I think for the most part, that Lombardi should have his freaking name on it. Game plans are game plans, and good strategy is a must, but Brees finds the open man, and gets them the ball. That makes him the MVP, and keeps him the MVP. As far as Reggie goes, as a "featured" back, in a West Coast system, I can remember many great offensive teams, that had exceptional RBs, doing basically the same things as Reggie only better. Marshall Faulk, Brian Westbrook, hell even Julius Jones when he was in Dallas, all had similar job descriptions, but ALL have had better success than Reggie. What I'm saying is that he doesn't deserve this payday. And as far as PT goes, well, I think we all remember that touchdown he scored in the superbowl.... I can't remember the one Reggie scored off hand.....
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04-16-2010, 04:32 AM	#5
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: New Orleans Saints uncertain about decisions of Pierre Thomas, Jahri Evans, others Originally Posted by saintpaul25 I hear ya LB, but what about Brees? I think for the most part, that Lombardi should have his freaking name on it. Game plans are game plans, and good strategy is a must, but Brees finds the open man, and gets them the ball. That makes him the MVP, and keeps him the MVP. As far as Reggie goes, as a "featured" back, in a West Coast system, I can remember many great offensive teams, that had exceptional RBs, doing basically the same things as Reggie only better. Marshall Faulk, Brian Westbrook, hell even Julius Jones when he was in Dallas, all had similar job descriptions, but ALL have had better success than Reggie. What I'm saying is that he doesn't deserve this payday. And as far as PT goes, well, I think we all remember that touchdown he scored in the superbowl.... I can't remember the one Reggie scored off hand..... No argument from me about Brees...or Pt, for that matter. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Reggie was part of the greatest gumbo recipe ever for Saints fans. He was kinda like the shrimp. Drew was the rue...PT the crab meat...Colston was the okra...etc. You get what I'm driving at, right? You see, I don't care how much Reggie makes. I believe that he brings a certain "star" quality to a team that never had one before. I admit that he has had a little trouble living-up to it, but then I remember some of his highlights and realize he has done things that no Saint has ever done before. He just doesn't do them every play like some people expect him to do. In closing I reiterate. I'm happy with exactly what happened and don't care how much they make or made in the past or will in the future. I'm just happy Reggie is a Saint...and that's mostly the topic (or what it veered to...I hope that wasn't my fault...lol) and why I didn't comment on the others.
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04-16-2010, 04:51 AM	#6
HintOfLogic 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 194	Re: New Orleans Saints uncertain about decisions of Pierre Thomas, Jahri Evans, others Originally Posted by Saint_LB No argument from me about Brees...or Pt, for that matter. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Reggie was part of the greatest gumbo recipe ever for Saints fans. He was kinda like the shrimp. Drew was the rue...PT the crab meat...Colston was the okra...etc. You get what I'm driving at, right Aww B.S.! You aren't about the "Gumbo", you're about Reggie Bush! You're just talking out of your a$$ now. Case in point..... What were your comments when we let Bell go? That he wasn't that Great? That he's expendable, replaceable? Did you get all analytical about what piece of Gumbo Bell was to the teams success? Convenient argument you've got going there now that offers whatever validity Reggie provides as a player or ingredient. then you're going to argue about Reggie offering a certain "star" quality to the team. That's about s far a reach as they come. Think about it, think about the guys that make up this team... do you think they are elevated because they see Reggie and his internet hoe pop up online when they go home? Seriously, these guys. This rooster isn't about that. And apparently you weren't around when we drafted Ricky Williams. Don't know if you remember, but he was kinda considered a star and believe it or not, he drew more constant media attention. The star value is only for your own personal gratification. The character of this team isn't defined or influenced by Reggies star status.... It thrives off of the humble and professional persona's like Brees, Pierre, Colston, Vilma, etc.
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04-16-2010, 04:57 AM	#7
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: New Orleans Saints uncertain about decisions of Pierre Thomas, Jahri Evans, others Originally Posted by HintOfLogic Aww B.S.! You aren't about the "Gumbo", you're about Reggie Bush! You're just talking out of your a$$ now. Case in point..... What were your comments when we let Bell go? That he wasn't that Great? That he's expendable, replaceable? Did you get all analytical about what piece of Gumbo Bell was to the teams success? Convenient argument you've got going there now that offers whatever validity Reggie provides as a player or ingredient. then you're going to argue about Reggie offering a certain "star" quality to the team. That's about s far a reach as they come. Think about it, think about the guys that make up this team... do you think they are elevated because they see Reggie and his internet hoe pop up online when they go home? Seriously, these guys. This rooster isn't about that. And apparently you weren't around when we drafted Ricky Williams. Don't know if you remember, but he was kinda considered a star and believe it or not, he drew more constant media attention. The star value is only for your own personal gratification. The character of this team isn't defined or influenced by Reggies star status.... It thrives off of the humble and professional persona's like Brees, Pierre, Colston, Vilma, etc. Let's just put it this way. I'm as much all about Reggie Bush as you are all about trashing him.
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04-16-2010, 04:43 AM	#9
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: New Orleans Saints uncertain about decisions of Pierre Thomas, Jahri Evans, others Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Overall I can say, that I am very happy with the end result myself. And yes, Reggie has done some amazing things over his career, but IMO, not enough to warrant "star status", I guess. I honestly believe that this 8 million dollar pay out, will only happen one year, and he will restructure in 2011, or he will probably be gone. Oh by the way... Love the avatar. I agree...he may be gone. For all we know, Payton may be gone...and he might bring Drew with him. Nobody knows the future. You know, if TC has another bad year up in NY...
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04-16-2010, 05:02 AM	#10
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: New Orleans Saints uncertain about decisions of Pierre Thomas, Jahri Evans, others Originally Posted by Saint_LB I agree...he may be gone. For all we know, Payton may be gone...and he might bring Drew with him. Nobody knows the future. You know, if TC has another bad year up in NY... Oh come on LB, you're reaching now.... Payton and Brees will be here until the dome collapses. Bush leaving, I think the majority of fans could see, but Brees? There would be a riot! Brees had a 5000 yard season. Bush hasn't had a 1000 yard season since he got into the pros.... Not really comparable bro...