Saint_LB

C'mon, dude. Didn't you see the ""?

I'm just saying, it's hard to predict what's going to happen after next year...and if you don't think Payton is capable of going on to bigger and better things...and money doesn't talk and bs doesn't walk in the NFL..."cough-cough" Darren Sharper "cough-cough"...




Oh...and btw...did a little checking...hope these figures are correct.


Rushing Rcvg PR Total AP Yds

2006 562 742 216 1520

2007 581 417 12 1010

2008 404 440 270 1114

2009 390 335 130 855

So...as you can see...last year, being injured, was the only year he didn't get over 1000 all-purpose yds., which to me is just as good as a guy who gets them by pounding the ball over and over. JMO, though.

Whether you think you can or think you can't...you're right!

SaintPauly

My bad..... I'm kind of tired...

I agree with you, money does make the NFL world go round, I see Payton being like our Belichick in the long run. He hasn't had what anyone would consider a bad year since his hiring. And I just see Brees retiring as a Saint.

lynwood

We need to keep both PT and Bush. Both have qualities that fit into our current offensive plan. Difference between the two money wise is that PT was undrafted and signed for a lower paycheck and Bush being drafted has his deal. So now the back and forth deal making between the two begin. PT is worth more than what he is currently getting but he is not going to get more than Bush.

As for one being more replacable than the other I don't see it.

strato

this is too funny...lol...

strato

So what happened any news?

MorningWood

Not that I know, but it's not like the April 15th deadline is of any real significance to us signing them. The passing of that deadline just means that other teams can't sign them.

In other words, the time for the scenario where another team comes in and signs them, then we must match or lose the player is over.

Rugby Saint II

Reggie's game seriously depends on everybody else executing correctly a good game plan. We have a terrible special teams coach. imho Reggie is not an every down back but does his job effectively (when he's healthy) Would he be as good in another system? I doubt it. Is he good here? Heck yes. Is he worth the money? He makes plays and creates mismatches all over the field.....yeah, yeah, I know more of the same old rhetoric. I like Reggie a lot. Do I love him?........errr no. Viva La Saints.

exile

Will the every player in the NFL be an unrestricted FA next year? These one year contracts come in bundles every day of the week.

voodooido

To be honest I would trade a few of these guys. Next year they will be gone anway. Moore, Brown and Roby woulkd be expendable to me. we could pick up some nice picks for those 3. I see a rd2, rd3 and 2 rd5's if we traded those 3.

HintOfLogic

Brown proved expendable and replaceable.... although Bushrod was vulnerable at times, he started to hold it down well enough over time.

Moore is a heck of a weapon and I feel was underused. He needs to be capable of staying healthy for extended periods of time. What was it, a hamstring always ailing him? If and when healthy, it's adds a nice threat over the middle... he can constantly be used like Wes Welker or Dallas Clark. Not to mention, he adds another option as a PR guy. If there's more to his health, he could prove expendable. Also, it got to a point where he seemed like he was in the Payton doghouse and excluded for unforseen reasons... who knows?

Roby, with the depth of our WR's is just a luxury, but he's also the teams best ST's return guy. I think for this reason alone, he should be retained. I also, for the life of me couldn't figure out why he wasn't utilized as Punt Returner as well.... especially if he's not being used in the offensive playbook. If that's all they're gonna use him for and he's proven good, consistently good, why not let him return punts? Another overlooked fact is that he was probably the best ST's coverage guy. It's something that get's taken for granted, but he was almost always the first guy on the spot when covering kicks. He's a heck of a gunner.

Saying that, I think that there are replacements out there for these guys skill sets, but it baffles me to no end how people are just as quick to abandon a proven commodity and look to the drafts for replacement players. Is the gamble where the excitements at? I thought the goal of a franchise is get all of the pieces in place to make up champions.... then hold it together and mesh from that?

The fact is, Roby and Moore may not be all pro players, but even still, they are better than the majority of the guys that come in off drafts. The gamble is gone, we know they're good. They can do everything asked of them... in that sense, it doesn't get better. Why would you be so quick to just dilute the formula that created a S.B. winning team?