Stop the Run!

biloxi-indian · 04-26-2010, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Not sure where you found that the rule is lifted for the final 4 any time?

It is the Final 4 rule you need to worry about.

We had to loose a Free Agent (Fujita) to gain Alex Brown. We could not get Brown for more than we paid Fujita. Unless we loose another Free Agent, we are done.

Read Final Four rules:

NFLLabor.com Frequently Asked Questions ? Tender and ?Final Eight? Rules

I call that significantly restricted.

First, Brown acquisition had nothing to do with the rule. Jimmy Wilkerson did.

Second, Deadline Set for "Final 8" Rule - Gang Green Nation

Third, just trying to provide another perspective which is what you asked for in the first place.

Lastly, you have no reference point if the Saints have done anything to improve their run defense to date. They have not played one game to date with the current roster or whom they will enter the first game of the season with on D.

Good luck. Out.

darstep · 04-26-2010, 01:53 PM

I agree with X in his concern for stopping the run. That would keep teams in 3rd and long situations, perfect for the way we play defense. But I still have the scars from the number of 3rd and longs that were converted on us last season. 3rd and 9's, 3rd and 13's, 3rd and 17's: it was ugly sometimes. We were 13-3 and could have easily been 15-1, but were 3-0 when it counted. We didn't do that bad of a job, and we can definitely do better this year. I thought that the heavy in the draft should have fallen 4-2 on the defensive side of the ball, but what do I know? We still have a ton of unsigned players that may give us an opportunity to sure up some of our holes if they are signed away. I kinda trust those guys (FO) at his point to know what they are doing.

biloxi-indian · 04-26-2010, 02:04 PM

Do we have two insomniacs? lololololol

Don't worry, be happy. Saints are WORLD CHAMPIONS. Enjoy the ride to a repeat 2010 season.

Ciao........BI

TheOak · 04-26-2010, 02:09 PM

All of the Final 8/July 22nd rules ending rumors come from Jets websites. When the NFL officially posts it, I will believe it. If it is true, who in the hell is going to be available after July 22nd ?.. LOL

I have no reference point on weather they have done anything to improve Saints defense? ROFLMAO. Sure I do... Look at the roster it should be fair to say 95% played last season. Bresus has not taken the field in the forst game of the 2011 season yet either. I suppose on your basis or thought you feel he "could" be ranked 32nd at the end of next season.

My point still stands. The rule severely sestricts the New Orleans Saints, as it was intended to. And we need to prepare to stop the run.

On opening day we play Minnesota. We better be prepared. My point behind all of this is that I am one area away from comfortably feeling as we can dominate this season, stopping the run is that area. I am sure the FO knows what they are doing, however, I am here on these forums to discuss.

CantonLegend · 04-26-2010, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

Do we have two insomniacs? lololololol

Don't worry, be happy. Saints are WORLD CHAMPIONS. Enjoy the ride to a repeat 2010 season.

Ciao........BI

cant repeat if we dont get better

every other team is getting better.....if we stay stagnant and get complacent then we wont get better and wont have any chance of repeating this year

strato · 04-26-2010, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

cant repeat if we dont get better

every other team is getting better.....if we stay stagnant and get complacent then we wont get better and wont have any chance of repeating this year

Amen to that...

biloxi-indian · 04-26-2010, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

cant repeat if we dont get better

every other team is getting better.....if we stay stagnant and get complacent then we wont get better and wont have any chance of repeating this year

Intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer.

breesfan27 · 04-26-2010, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

cant repeat if we dont get better

every other team is getting better.....if we stay stagnant and get complacent then we wont get better and wont have any chance of repeating this year

100% Agreed! My boyfriend and I were discussing this at dinner the other night. Our biggest weakness last year was stopping the run.

Our defense was rated what, 26th last year? That's not good enough for a #1 rated offense. The FO needs to take notice if they want a repeat.

I'm not doubting their abilities to get us quality talent, I just want them to stop sitting on their hands and get something done already! OTAs are right around the corner.

strato · 04-26-2010, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by breesfan27

100% Agreed! My boyfriend and I were discussing this at dinner the other night. Our biggest weakness last year was stopping the run.

Our defense was rated what, 26th last year? That's not good enough for a #1 rated offense. The FO needs to take notice if they want a repeat.

I'm not doubting their abilities to get us quality talent, I just want them to stop sitting on their hands and get something done already! OTAs are right around the corner.

Just sit back and eat bon bon and let the front office do there job ...your fanhood has been revoked...lol

breesfan27 · 04-26-2010, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by strato

Just sit back and eat bon bon and let the front office do there job ...your fanhood has been revoked...lol

And YOU can kiss my bon bon eating, Saints loving butt!

Who Dat!

04-26-2010, 01:21 PM	#11
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: Stop the Run! Originally Posted by x626xBlack Not sure where you found that the rule is lifted for the final 4 any time? It is the Final 4 rule you need to worry about. We had to loose a Free Agent (Fujita) to gain Alex Brown. We could not get Brown for more than we paid Fujita. Unless we loose another Free Agent, we are done. Read Final Four rules: NFLLabor.com Frequently Asked Questions ? Tender and ?Final Eight? Rules I call that significantly restricted. First, Brown acquisition had nothing to do with the rule. Jimmy Wilkerson did. Second, Deadline Set for "Final 8" Rule - Gang Green Nation Third, just trying to provide another perspective which is what you asked for in the first place. Lastly, you have no reference point if the Saints have done anything to improve their run defense to date. They have not played one game to date with the current roster or whom they will enter the first game of the season with on D. Good luck. Out.
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04-26-2010, 01:53 PM	#12
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Stop the Run! I agree with X in his concern for stopping the run. That would keep teams in 3rd and long situations, perfect for the way we play defense. But I still have the scars from the number of 3rd and longs that were converted on us last season. 3rd and 9's, 3rd and 13's, 3rd and 17's: it was ugly sometimes. We were 13-3 and could have easily been 15-1, but were 3-0 when it counted. We didn't do that bad of a job, and we can definitely do better this year. I thought that the heavy in the draft should have fallen 4-2 on the defensive side of the ball, but what do I know? We still have a ton of unsigned players that may give us an opportunity to sure up some of our holes if they are signed away. I kinda trust those guys (FO) at his point to know what they are doing.
	SaintSince67

04-26-2010, 02:04 PM	#13
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: Stop the Run! Do we have two insomniacs? lololololol Don't worry, be happy. Saints are WORLD CHAMPIONS. Enjoy the ride to a repeat 2010 season. Ciao........BI

04-26-2010, 02:09 PM	#14
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Stop the Run! All of the Final 8/July 22nd rules ending rumors come from Jets websites. When the NFL officially posts it, I will believe it. If it is true, who in the hell is going to be available after July 22nd ?.. LOL I have no reference point on weather they have done anything to improve Saints defense? ROFLMAO. Sure I do... Look at the roster it should be fair to say 95% played last season. Bresus has not taken the field in the forst game of the 2011 season yet either. I suppose on your basis or thought you feel he "could" be ranked 32nd at the end of next season. My point still stands. The rule severely sestricts the New Orleans Saints, as it was intended to. And we need to prepare to stop the run. On opening day we play Minnesota. We better be prepared. My point behind all of this is that I am one area away from comfortably feeling as we can dominate this season, stopping the run is that area. I am sure the FO knows what they are doing, however, I am here on these forums to discuss.
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04-26-2010, 02:28 PM	#15
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Stop the Run! Originally Posted by biloxi-indian Do we have two insomniacs? lololololol Don't worry, be happy. Saints are WORLD CHAMPIONS. Enjoy the ride to a repeat 2010 season. Ciao........BI cant repeat if we dont get better every other team is getting better.....if we stay stagnant and get complacent then we wont get better and wont have any chance of repeating this year

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04-26-2010, 02:32 PM	#16
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Stop the Run! Originally Posted by CantonLegend cant repeat if we dont get better every other team is getting better.....if we stay stagnant and get complacent then we wont get better and wont have any chance of repeating this year Amen to that...

04-26-2010, 03:27 PM	#17
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: Stop the Run! Originally Posted by CantonLegend cant repeat if we dont get better every other team is getting better.....if we stay stagnant and get complacent then we wont get better and wont have any chance of repeating this year Intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer.

04-26-2010, 05:46 PM	#18
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Stop the Run! Originally Posted by CantonLegend cant repeat if we dont get better every other team is getting better.....if we stay stagnant and get complacent then we wont get better and wont have any chance of repeating this year 100% Agreed! My boyfriend and I were discussing this at dinner the other night. Our biggest weakness last year was stopping the run. Our defense was rated what, 26th last year? That's not good enough for a #1 rated offense. The FO needs to take notice if they want a repeat. I'm not doubting their abilities to get us quality talent, I just want them to stop sitting on their hands and get something done already! OTAs are right around the corner.

04-26-2010, 05:49 PM	#19
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Stop the Run! Originally Posted by breesfan27 100% Agreed! My boyfriend and I were discussing this at dinner the other night. Our biggest weakness last year was stopping the run. Our defense was rated what, 26th last year? That's not good enough for a #1 rated offense. The FO needs to take notice if they want a repeat. I'm not doubting their abilities to get us quality talent, I just want them to stop sitting on their hands and get something done already! OTAs are right around the corner. Just sit back and eat bon bon and let the front office do there job ...your fanhood has been revoked...lol

04-26-2010, 05:51 PM	#20
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Stop the Run! Originally Posted by strato Just sit back and eat bon bon and let the front office do there job ...your fanhood has been revoked...lol And YOU can kiss my bon bon eating, Saints loving butt! Who Dat!